How Do We Eradicate Religion From Modern Society?

Dizzle Frost

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funny how people can have more faith in non existent things but cant find faith in themselves. stop believing in god and believe in yourself.
well put man, that pisses me off to...people are to weak to fight cancer..but religion somehow gives em the power to. the human mind is the most powerful thing a person can own.
 

mindphuk

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what i do understand is that billions of people need that faith in something greater and it helps many of them lead a better life.
Maybe one day you will provide some evidence to back this claim up. The null hypothesis being that without religion, billions of people would lead worse lives.
it may not be realistic to have such a faith and there may not be a shred of truth to any of it, but it is no more harmful than your rabid hatred of it. i'm reminded of the massive confiscations of property and the imprisonments aimed at the religious under stalin, mao and myriad other petty tyrants through history and i wonder what separates your view from theirs.
To answer the second question first and that is that most atheists are not tyrannical and would prefer religion go away because of enlightenment and not forced away at the point of a gun.

We have been around and around with this before but I believe that claim that religion is not harmful has been shown to be false many times in many threads. At the very least it leads to sloppy thinking and the erroneous belief that blind faith is a positive attribute. These ideas damage society from within.
 

Filthy Phil

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I worry that possibly we may never get rid of it as it is a side effect of peoples inability to understand chain of events and ultimate causality,its a coping method to make sense of that which we dont really understand but always wonder about. Socialogically speaking,aside from those with anxiety disorders or ocd etc., people are more likely to be more superstitious the less educated they are. This ties in with what I was saying previously. I do believe though that as information and science pushes forward it will help to reduce the amount of rediculousness. Think for example how a long time ago people jsed to think that thunder was ghe sound of an angry god and such. Now, as science.has helped assure us, we know this is not the case. But to ask people to stop with the religios rediculousness is equal to asking people to get smarter faster. Sorry if I sound pompous, but this is just my opinion. We just need to leave them alone and politely insist they give us the same courtisy. If they arent in your face with it,then I dont hate them, only feel bad for them. Compassion is the answer for now and probably a while to come...IMO
 

undertheice

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Maybe one day you will provide some evidence to back this claim up. The null hypothesis being that without religion, billions of people would lead worse lives.
the sheer number of the religious of various faiths points undeniably to some need that is filled by whatever it is that religion gives these people. you can fiddle and fret over my use of the word "need", but it gives them something that nothing else seems to provide. would they be better off without it? who's to say. having dealt with some who seem almost fanatical in their faith, it appears to be the sense of fellowship and the stability of an unchanging creed that most impacts their lives most and turns them toward their better selves when tempted by the worse.

.....most atheists are not tyrannical and would prefer religion go away because of enlightenment and not forced away at the point of a gun.
i know that well. after all, i'm one of them and refuse to associate with the activist sort. my post was in response to the quote and its implications. the very thought of demanding that anyone hide away their true selves for the sake of the bias of another is an old tune and incredibly distasteful.

We have been around and around with this before but I believe that claim that religion is not harmful has been shown to be false many times in many threads.
i know your stance on the subject, you know mine and there is little point in rehashing the matter. i do find it amusing that you seem to think religion's harmfulness has been proven, but i suppose it's a small conceit. i'd love for you to realize that those things which bring out the worst in humanity may also bring out his best, but i'll leave that to someone with more patience than i possess.
 

Luger187

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Maybe one day you will provide some evidence to back this claim up. The null hypothesis being that without religion, billions of people would lead worse lives.
its like an addict saying they need their drug. they just feel the urge because thats what they are used to and it gives them comfort. but they dont really need it
 

Dislexicmidget2021

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You cant get rid of religion by force,im sure most of us know this,there are countless people who live their life by it and who will continue to do so.But it will be the passage of time to which the prophecies dont come true,as all other predictions of the end of the world have come to pass and guess what no end.The" prophets" were wrong each and every time they predicted the end of humanity in the course of history.I believe they will continue to be wrong as time goes by,but it must come to pass that the fervent believers see that there reality isnt in sinc with the natural laws that govern each and every life on the planet and perhaps the real light of life can shine for them.But this must take time and patience for they must unplug from the "Matrix" so to speak,and im saying this on the level that those who believe blindly are to the point that they are breaking their own dogma countless times without knowing it and never even considering the fact that God isnt going to strike them down because he dosent exist so tangibly to the world as scriptures would have mankind believe,they are just living a life with contradictorial notions of right and wrong screwing up their own minds and never finding the truth that already exists within themselves.Now i dont wish to undermine that there are morals being taught in this system that are upright and beneficial to the world a few of which I personaly adhere to,but the methodology behind the teaching is just as shameful as deceit itself.
 

kindnugz

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You say you want to eradicate religion? Would you make religion illegal like Stalin or Hitler and persecute believers? Maybe you should move to China so you can live in a secular-by-force society and see how you like it.

Grow up and realize that the world is full of opposing viewpoints and beliefs. If you dont like that, too bad. Sounds like you are the one with the hatred.
 

Hepheastus420

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You say you want to eradicate religion? Would you make religion illegal like Stalin or Hitler and persecute believers? Maybe you should move to China so you can live in a secular-by-force society and see how you like it.

Grow up and realize that the world is full of opposing viewpoints and beliefs. If you dont like that, too bad. Sounds like you are the one with the hatred.
Well put bro. Like seriously all these atheists bitching an shit and then when someone like me comes along and says how about we bring peace among the religions and atheists many of the atheists tell me to stop complaining.
 

olylifter420

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Yeah, i think they got some type of fetish getting off on trying to make.believers into none believers just cause they think it lacks validity, yet they claim anectodal evidence does not suffice, while their own views about beievers is anectodal as well. Truly hypocrites



Well put bro. Like seriously all these atheists bitching an shit and then when someone like me comes along and says how about we bring peace among the religions and atheists many of the atheists tell me to stop complaining.
 

PetFlora

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Most religious people are followers. Their parents, grand parents, great- grand parents... all participated in the sham. Anyone who delves deep below the surface will see that all religions stem from Ra in Egypt: virgin births, son (sun) of god, burning bush, commandment tablets...

Thankfully, conscious or not, people are slowly waking up. Maybe it's all the UFO sightings, combined with authors exposing who really seeded human life on earth- Ea. Alas, Ea's jealous son killed his good son: see Enlil/Enki (think Cain & Abel) and began a reign of terror that we still find ourselves in today. The good news is we are at the end of a 26,000 year cycle. A new conscious energy is approaching. It acts as a reboot of sorts. The closer we get (almost there) the more awake and aware we become, putting an end to religions part in the reign of terror.
 

Luger187

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Well put bro. Like seriously all these atheists bitching an shit and then when someone like me comes along and says how about we bring peace among the religions and atheists many of the atheists tell me to stop complaining.
you only want peace because people dont like your religion and you want it to stop. sorry, but religion deserves everything thats coming at it and more. we dont need it anymore

Yeah, i think they got some type of fetish getting off on trying to make.believers into none believers just cause they think it lacks validity, yet they claim anectodal evidence does not suffice, while their own views about beievers is anectodal as well. Truly hypocrites
we are trying to show you that what you believe in is nothing but old stories that have been changed over time. it is not the word of god in your holy book. you have yet to provide any evidence or anything that shows god can exist, even when asked MANY times. without any reason to believe in it, why the fuck would you believe in it? if you have a reason, tell us. btw, faith IS NOT a legit reason. that just means you believe without questioning it.
what views do we have about believers that are anecdotal?
 

Hepheastus420

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you only want peace because people dont like your religion and you want it to stop. sorry, but religion deserves everything thats coming at it and more. we dont need it anymore



we are trying to show you that what you believe in is nothing but old stories that have been changed over time. it is not the word of god in your holy book. you have yet to provide any evidence or anything that shows god can exist, even when asked MANY times. without any reason to believe in it, why the fuck would you believe in it? if you have a reason, tell us. btw, faith IS NOT a legit reason. that just means you believe without questioning it.
what views do we have about believers that are anecdotal?
I have already told you that I have my own reasons that do not concern you, if I did tell you, you would just mock me for my beliefs. So can you give me proof and facts of how the big bang initially started? Like how did nothing turn into the universe? That doesn't make sense either.
 
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