How to Employ 100,000+ Americans and Rebuild Our Country
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Rothschild, Rockefeller, Warburg, Morgan. Families of Wealth and power some of who have been in the central banking business for 300+ years.
TheDemocrat
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The big shift in the United States over the past two decades is not a rise in regulations and taxation but a decline in investment - in physical and human capital. And investment is the crucial locomotive of long-term growth.
People cannot invest because they have no savings, they cannot save because of constant inflation. We should concentrate on who is creating the inflation.
NLXSK1
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And they dont worry about it because the government tells them everything is taken care of after 65...
sync0s
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The same government who is pushing an agenda to extend a tax cut that is paid for by taking money from that program. I don't disagree with tax cuts, but Obama (the champion of entitlements) has produced the first time in history that SS has brought in less revenue than it has spat out.
Here is an idea: How about we stop spending so much money on wars and pointless programs so we can stop borrowing from these ponzi schemes while permanently lowering American taxes.npr.org said:
TheDemocrat
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If the politicians had not been allowed to steal from the SS trust fund this would not be a problem.
NLXSK1
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I am not going to bash Obama from stealing from the SS trust fund. The cupboard was bare when he got into office.
The day the government started borrowing money from the fund it became a ponzi scheme. You are not paying into your SS fund, you are replacing money stolen and interest promised to someone who has retired. And supposedly someone else is going to pay for your retirement because the government isnt keeping your money it is paying it immediately out to someone else.
The day the government started borrowing money from the fund it became a ponzi scheme. You are not paying into your SS fund, you are replacing money stolen and interest promised to someone who has retired. And supposedly someone else is going to pay for your retirement because the government isnt keeping your money it is paying it immediately out to someone else.
I was hoping that maybe you would be interested in learning about the currency that you hold so dearly in your wallet.
The vast majority know nothing about the origin, reality, source or history of our monetary system. It is the single most important system that government is supposed to control and has the most relevance and impact on peoples every day lives.
MuyLocoNC
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I was thinking the exact same thing. So, it's Terms now.
NLXSK1
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I was hoping you would STFU... Which just proves you cant always get what you want.
I understand the monetary system while you seem to be missing the concept of basic accounting.
If the politicians keep overspending none of it will really matter.
canndo
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Tax cuts and neglect
canndo
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Really?
I don't know about you but I get a statement every year and it tells me with some amount of certainty what I will get from my government when I retire. No one who has any presence of mind at all would consider that number on that piece of paper as "everything is taken care of".
You guys are actually both in agreement over the system. One agrees that the Fed Res system which never creates the interest has us by the balls and the other one knows that spending more than you bring in by a wide margin is bad. The first system is what makes the other possible. The Fed reserve system actually makes overspending possible by the politicians in the first place by providing a bottomless pit of easily produced credit that the people will pay for through currency devaluation. As long as they can keep servicing the interest they can roll over all the coming due loans into all new bigger ones perpetually. Well, until the system gets saturated, then a giant collapse comes that no one can stop.
Wrong
Going back to the Gold standard would not prevent Overspending
Governments would issue bonds or revalue their Gold reserves
laughingduck
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Wow. How do they revalue gold reserves?
I am aware that we can not overspend. My point is that according to our system, as long as we create one penny to put into circulation, our system is doomed to failure. That penny will always represent owed monies. Under our current system if we ever repaid the debt (WHICH IS MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE) using a witchdoctor or something we would have an economic apocolypse because the money supply would run out. The debt is money, the money is debt. We are told we practice capitalism, and yet we allow a monopoly on money creation (among other things).
And so you confirming everything I thought about you.
PS; you dont know anything about the money system if you don't know who invented what aspects of it, why they invented them, when they invented them and what the consequences were.
Why was the stock market invented anyway? (pls don't say to provide capital for companies)
NLXSK1
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2 people can read the same thing and come up with different conclusions.
I really am not interested in how educated you think I am Coals. It is not my job to promote my resume to you.
But if you want to tell me yet again that I dont know about the market why dont you read "Wall Street, A History from it's beginning to the fall of Enron" by Geisst. I am holding it in my hand right now. Now, I bet if I read some left wing Blog about wall street they have some pretty interesting stories that do not jive with history. I am about as interested in that as your assessment of my general education.
My point which keeps sailing over your head is that the politicians have overspent us 15 trillion dollars in debt. Your illuminati rantings about the cryptic nature about the federal reserve and the rules amount to .000000001% of the problem right now. UNLESS THE GOVERNMENT STOPS SPENDING MONEY THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS GOING TO CRASH!! It has before and will again. And it will do so in a fairly short time.
Maybe you can jump up and down and scream you are right then... Someone might believe you.
Just like the Democrats and Republicans have got you fighting over sides and Obama has got you focused on class warfare they keep diverting you from the important issues down into pointless cat fights about which masters own us.
Even if you are right and there is some huge conspiracy theory and we are sending the fed 100 billion dollars a year... IT DOESNT MATTER A PILE OF BEANS TO 15 TRILLION IN DEBT!!!
So, now go educate yourself because you have no credibility with me and no standing to try to tell me what my knowledge base and education is.
P.S. Here is a good analogy of this discussion. The house is on fire and you are complaining about the grass being too high and that you want the lawn mowed.