Human poop and urine, perfect nutriment?

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Icu420

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Has anyone tried this?

"The NPK ratio of human urine varies with diet and each person has a unique profile within that but roughly speaking, an average westerner will produce urine with the proportions at 11:2:4"

Proportion if nutrients leaving the body urine/feces:

Nitrogen 9:1
Potassium 3:1
Phosphorous 1:1

Therefore feces are ~ 1/1/4
Piss is ~10/2/4

Has calmag as well as vitamins & micros. Is adjustable by diet.
 
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insomnia65 said:
Yeah but do you want to smoke shit?
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If i eat a tomato grown in dependence on composted horse shit, am i eating horse shit or a tomato?

Likewise i would be consuming cannabinoids not poop.

Rather go with what's grown in dependence on my own poop than that of bats or worms if it means more money in the bank, not having to go seeking out products and having frosty buds with little to no effort.

I think most would vape or make extracts of their poop if it was the dankest shit around.
 
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human shit is not sanitary at all, feces of carnivores carry many pathogens so you must apply heat to it at least to kill those microbes parasites etc, not advisable to use on plants you are planning to consume. urine is somewhat more sanitary, as long as its fresh you can dilute it i guess but it also has sodium in it so it may cause salination on the long run
 
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crimsonecho said:
human shit is not sanitary at all, feces of carnivores carry many pathogens so you must apply heat to it at least to kill those microbes parasites etc, not advisable to use on plants you are planning to consume. urine is somewhat more sanitary, as long as its fresh you can dilute it i guess but it also has sodium in it so it may cause salination on the long run
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I think heat treatment even at 60c will sterilize poop in not long time.

Urine is sterile fresh so i think the easiest thing is to use fresh urine, can be useful for foliar feeding as well.

Disease is probably not a concern if one makes one's own.
 
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Icu420 said:
I think heat treatment even at 60c will sterilize poop in not long time.

Urine is sterile fresh so i think the easiest thing is to use fresh urine, can be useful for foliar feeding as well.

Disease is probably not a concern if one makes one's own.
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if you are gonna sell it to people then don’t use your shit and piss to fertilize, if its your personal stash then i don’t really much care what you use to grow but e.coli among many other pathogens you can easily catch from human feces does not sound fun to me
 
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crimsonecho said:
if you are gonna sell it to people then don’t use your shit and piss to fertilize, if its your personal stash then i don’t really much care what you use to grow but e.coli among many other pathogens you can easily catch from human feces does not sound fun to me
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Personal use of course. Just want to have best full spectrum organic nutes possible for free and easily obtainable.

I am interested in sterilization & storing.

I think one can just collect one's daily excrement and mix it with water. It will be ~4/4/4 or close to it.

Then one can just feed that throughout or use one or the other, poop being more useful in bloom if one wants to back off nitrogen. Otherwise one can easily foliar feed some urine for nitrogen and other nutes if one wants.

Also no need for honey/molases if one uses peat+lime and virmiculite, or smth like that.
 
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Some of the yearly values of the nutrients are:

  • 3.5kg of nitrogen
  • 0.5kg phosphorus
  • 1.0kg potassium
  • 0.5kg sulfur
  • 40g magnesium
  • 100g calcium
A family of four can produce the equivalent of a 50kg bag of NPK fertilizer from urine alone every year.
www.permaculturenews.org

Urine: Closing the NPK Loop - The Permaculture Research Institute

The Stockholm Environment Institute conducted experiments and collected data that shows the usefulne
www.permaculturenews.org www.permaculturenews.org
 
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There was a really talented and brilliant organic gardener I followed for a while.

he would use urine. But diluted down substantially. Like pee in a bucket snd dill with five gallons of water diluted. Also would preach the important of diet and what go in the body aswhat makes the urine safe. He would eat clean and mostly vegetarian.

Stillllll.... never had the need or desire to go down this road lol.
 
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Samsung Kawasaki said:
What the blooming hell did i just read!! Human urine I suppose could work in moderation but human poo!!?? Good lol for today tho thank you
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It's black gold

"A growing portion of China’s toilet waste is converted into fertilizer and biogas. In Beijing, 6,800 tons of human excrement are treated each day by some estimates: enough to fill almost three Olympic-size swimming pools." https://www.afr.com/world/asia/how-the-chinese-are-turning-human-waste-into-black-gold-20150202-133xdd

Amazing that we throw away what can be made into thc or gold..
 
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Icu420 said:
It's black gold

"A growing portion of China’s toilet waste is converted into fertilizer and biogas. In Beijing, 6,800 tons of human excrement are treated each day by some estimates: enough to fill almost three Olympic-size swimming pools." https://www.afr.com/world/asia/how-the-chinese-are-turning-human-waste-into-black-gold-20150202-133xdd

Amazing that we throw away what can be made into thc or gold..
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bro on non-consumable plants like roses, azelias etc its kinda fine after its been treated properly. not fine on something you’ll smoke or eat.
 
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