ChubbyGreaser
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We as space fans need to make sure we get vaccinated several times a year if we have to. Stay safe out there. Some day we will have space men on the red planet. 
Human Settlement on Mars
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Budzbuddha
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” One day man will visit the red planet to further mankind’s reach to the stars ..... and shitting in some red soil to grow potatoes.
One small step for man , one giant squat for mankind ..........”
One small step for man , one giant squat for mankind ..........”
PadawanWarrior
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You wouldn't be making fun of it if he grew weed with that shit instead of potatoes. Talk about some spacey weed, lol. Ya, I'm a dork.
ttystikk
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Gonna need a lot more than fresh "night soil" to make Martian ground ready for planting. It's poisonous as hell and the pH is whack, nevermind no micros.
medicaloutlaw
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Really..like what the hell is there to do on Mars? Billions spent on nothing more than curiosity. No natural resources have been found. I'd rather just have the roads in my neighborhood fixed with the money.
Romulanman
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Fixed that for there ya bud.
ttystikk
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Hey, let's save some REAL money and quit bombing the rest of the fucking planet, and maybe cut our military budget by half in the process.
Missions to Mars are fucking pocket change compared to that, nevermind the bonus of not killing millions of innocent people so the warmongers can 'earn' record profits.
The Monarch
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The way I see it, the wealthy want an exit for when we render Earth uninhabitable. The oligarchs running these companies talk about satellites and tourism, but that’s to generate cash flow to fund colonization. I wonder how much heat energy they’ll saddle us with trying to scram.
ChubbyGreaser
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You space dorks sound so stupid. You believe in something that doesn't exist. You LOVE "outer space" which only proves you know absolutely nothing about basic astronomy therefore magnifying your ignorance. Your Einstein, Sagan, Musk were and are charlatans. Globetards 
Romulanman
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Are you ok???You space dorks sound so stupid. You believe in something that doesn't exist. You LOVE "outer space" which only proves you know absolutely nothing about basic astronomy therefore magnifying your ignorance. Your Einstein, Sagan, Musk were and are charlatans. Globetards
Lordhooha
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No he’s not he claims to be a former naval pilot buuuuuut thats a big can of bullshit.
ttystikk
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The aristocracy of 300 years ago surely didn't decamp for the New World and I don't think they'll bug out to Mars in a hurry, either. Life there will be a bit too rustic for awhile.
The Monarch
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Fair enough! However, the aristocracy didn’t need to decamp, just the millions living in poverty/persecution, and some landed gentry to run things. Competition for survival is always driving things with us - there might be rare elements for mining on Mars, but our survival doesn’t depend on that. So why spend so much capital on leaving terra firma when it could be deployed fighting an existential threat like climate change?
ttystikk
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Why NOT colonise Mars? The idea that everything has to have a profit motive seems a bit myopic to me.
The Monarch
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It seems myopic but that is how we roll. Look at our wars.
ttystikk
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Imagine if humanity applied your logic when considering exploring the New World in the 1500s.
And I refuse to accept our current regime's utter idiocy in terms of budget priorities.
TacoMac
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Why bother?
Anybody that goes to Mars will die there. It will not be a glorious death. It will be a life spent below ground primarily, freezing your ass off.
Terraforming Mars is a pipe dream. It simply can't be done.
Anybody that thinks we can actually rebuild a dead planet when we can't even take care of the perfect planet we have is an idiot of Biblical proportions.
The Monarch
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I don’t follow - all exploration was about colonization, the ship owners and crew were highly compensated for the risks, they had to be.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Columbus assembled, provisioned and crewed his 1492 mission for the equivalent of about a million dollars (indexed on $US in 2020).
So far the USA has spent about $400 billion on (our current set of) enabling space technologies since 1960, and the first crewed Mars mission is not even in the planning stages. I doubt it could be done for less than $100 billion, unless SpaceX Starship performs fully in line with that company’s very aggressive time-and-cost projections.
On relative cost alone, colonization is science fiction (more to the point, an economic pipedream) with current technologies.
I also contend that colonizing a planet is a bad idea. Interplanetary and Kuiper space is much cheaper to move around in, and all the resources we will need (CHNO for life support and rock/metal for building stuff) are there for the taking, and not at the bottom of a deep (pronounced “expensive”) potential well. Our future is in the asteroids and ice dwarfs.