Humboldt Seed Company (HSC) Thread

[waltzing15]

Realizing that not many people are likely to have experience with this, but I will ask anyway - does anyone have thoughts on the differences between the regs vs fems for HSC's strains? I assume the fems are S1s of the mother used for the regs?

I've been wanting to try a HSC strain - I have my eye on Magic Melon - but am unsure whether I should be planning on dedicating the time to sexing and cloning a pack of regs versus just going with the fems.

 

[DrOgkush]

You can always tissue sample at young age. I like to keep males. At least 1 very strong traited male. Like ones that appear very resinous early on.

 

[Neoangelo147]

HSC GS Cookies regulars

pheno#1

Pheno #2

Pheno #3

 

[DrOgkush]

1 and 2 look same. 3 is a great example of genetics of the same strain. With the different look.

 

[GlassJoe]

I have Garlic Budder also going outdoors. Mine are just put into flower as I kept a light on at night to keep them in veg to get a little bigger. I grew 3 of them both look really similar and they seem to grow very tall and thick strong branching. Looks like a good outdoor strain that can develop good branch support for heavy buds.
How is the smell on yours already?

The smell on mine is what you would expect from a GMO x Cookies background, a spicy peppery/garlic smell with the rich cookie smell. It has that cookies-type bud stacking on the colas, too, with the spicy garlicky GMO smell being dominant. The Garlic Budder has been an absolute freak for me; it spreads out laterally, it stretches tall, and it put on serious weight in a short time. I only even got the seeds as freebies and I might end up getting a pack once I run out.

Check out this clone I put in the ground in mid-July; here it is on the 18th of July:



And then 41 days later on the 28th of August:

 

[GlassJoe]

Realizing that not many people are likely to have experience with this, but I will ask anyway - does anyone have thoughts on the differences between the regs vs fems for HSC's strains? I assume the fems are S1s of the mother used for the regs?

I've been wanting to try a HSC strain - I have my eye on Magic Melon - but am unsure whether I should be planning on dedicating the time to sexing and cloning a pack of regs versus just going with the fems.

I think the Regs matter more if you want to make use of the males. The fems are not S1s, they're still a filial cross with a selected female reversed instead of a selected male. If the plants have been selfed they list it in their catalog, for example, the Bling and Blueberry Cupcake are only available as feminized seeds which are S1s.

As far as the Magic Melon goes, I enjoyed mine quite a bit, for the high more than anything else. I got very traditional-looking lime green buds but it was a favorite among the stuff we had for a good "sativa" high with lots of goofy "high-deas"

Edit: Magic Melon is a Bx5 of Mango Sherbert x Honeydew Melon , so that would be something like:

(((((Mango Sherbert x Honeydew Melon) x Honeydew Melon) x Honeydew Melon) x Honeydew Melon) x Honeydew Melon) to make Magic Melon Bx4, then you either take a male and cross it with Honeydew Melon to make regs, or take a female, reverse it, and cross with Honeydew melon to make fems.

 

[Neoangelo147]

1 and 2 look same. 3 is a great example of genetics of the same strain. With the different look.

The male I pullled looked just like the pheno #3. From what I remember of the original forum cut GSC it had similar saw blade leaves.
HSC GS Cookies has Purple Panty Dropper in it so I’m wondering if that other pheno is taking more after that.

 

[waltzing15]

I think the Regs matter more if you want to make use of the males. The fems are not S1s, they're still a filial cross with a selected female reversed instead of a selected male. If the plants have been selfed they list it in their catalog, for example, the Bling and Blueberry Cupcake are only available as feminized seeds which are S1s.

As far as the Magic Melon goes, I enjoyed mine quite a bit, for the high more than anything else. I got very traditional-looking lime green buds but it was a favorite among the stuff we had for a good "sativa" high with lots of goofy "high-deas"

Edit: Magic Melon is a Bx5 of Mango Sherbert x Honeydew Melon , so that would be something like:

(((((Mango Sherbert x Honeydew Melon) x Honeydew Melon) x Honeydew Melon) x Honeydew Melon) x Honeydew Melon) to make Magic Melon Bx4, then you either take a male and cross it with Honeydew Melon to make regs, or take a female, reverse it, and cross with Honeydew melon to make fems.

That's good info, thanks a lot. A sativa high with the predictability of a stabilized hybrid strain is exactly what I'd be after.

 

[GlassJoe]

That's good info, thanks a lot. A sativa high with the predictability of a stabilized hybrid strain is exactly what I'd be after.

I did find a picture of a magic melon I did a little 5-gallon flip on in the spring, like I said the nugs look very traditional but the smoke was enjoyable. They were not huge nugs but they were dense, like little Sequoia pinecones

 

[uJhiteLiger]

You can always tissue sample at young age. I like to keep males. At least 1 very strong traited male. Like ones that appear very resinous early on.

How do you tell if a male is resinous? Do you rub the stems/leaves? Asking cause I've done a lot of research on hunting males and there's not a lot of good information

 

[colocowboy]

How do you tell if a male is resinous? Do you rub the stems/leaves? Asking cause I've done a lot of research on hunting males and there's not a lot of good information

Flower it.

 

[GlassJoe]

How do you tell if a male is resinous? Do you rub the stems/leaves? Asking cause I've done a lot of research on hunting males and there's not a lot of good information

I think stem rubs are common but there are a lot of other things to look for in a male that are easier to see that people use when choosing a male.

For example, having dense clusters of pollen sacs that produce lots of pollen, structural things like height, degree of lateral branching, internodal distance, flowering time (when do the sacs start opening), leaf structure, stress response: if you want to LST/supercrop it, bend it, if you want branches that support lots of weight, you have to weigh them down, (maybe even break a branch), if you want mold resistance, it needs to be in conditions where it might otherwise mold.

Choosing a male is about what you ultimately want out of the plant and resin/cannabinoid/terpene production is only part of that.

Rebel grown has an article about it they put out some time ago that I enjoyed reading.

How to Select Male Plants for Breeding & Seed Making

Try to plan your goals ahead of time when you’re breeding or making seeds. Visualize what you’re trying to accomplish and spend time with your plants, really getting to know them. Observation is key, as it builds experience, intuition, instinct, and understanding. The better you get to know your...

rebelgrown.com

 

[Wayne55]

Popped some blueberry muffin today! I was going to run jolly rancher but looking at effects, bbm got bumped to the front of the line.

 

[GlassJoe]

Popped some blueberry muffin today! I was going to run jolly rancher but looking at effects, bbm got bumped to the front of the line.

I don't think you can go wrong, tbh. If you've never grown BBM before it will surprise you with how strong the terpenes are and I thought it was a very relaxing but clearheaded smoke. The Jelly also seems to be a very practical, candy-smelling thing. Mine should be coming in this month!

Picture: Apple Blossom in front, JRs on side. They "pray" with their leaves very readily.

 

[PopAndSonGrows]

Mountaintop Mint just dropped!!!

 

[DrOgkush]

I think stem rubs are common but there are a lot of other things to look for in a male that are easier to see that people use when choosing a male.

For example, having dense clusters of pollen sacs that produce lots of pollen, structural things like height, degree of lateral branching, internodal distance, flowering time (when do the sacs start opening), leaf structure, stress response: if you want to LST/supercrop it, bend it, if you want branches that support lots of weight, you have to weigh them down, (maybe even break a branch), if you want mold resistance, it needs to be in conditions where it might otherwise mold.

Choosing a male is about what you ultimately want out of the plant and resin/cannabinoid/terpene production is only part of that.

Rebel grown has an article about it they put out some time ago that I enjoyed reading.

How to Select Male Plants for Breeding & Seed Making

Try to plan your goals ahead of time when you’re breeding or making seeds. Visualize what you’re trying to accomplish and spend time with your plants, really getting to know them. Observation is key, as it builds experience, intuition, instinct, and understanding. The better you get to know your...

rebelgrown.com

exactly how I identified any males iv used.
Everything you look for in a female plant. Your basically looking for the exact same thing. But in a male.

And because it’s not a common practice for most. Nobody thinks of the fathers genetic makeup being a key principle in selective breeding. Bunk dads produce some bunk seeds. Even if the mom is amazing.

iv had males look like female plants from the distance fully flowered. Until your up close you realize it’s pollen sacs. Not bud.

 

[Indicana Jones]

The Lemon Kush is horrible

That’s terrible news. I have a 20 pack in my shopping cart. Do you have a better lemon kush recommendation that’s in stock somewhere?

 

[Oldgoat1959]

My experience with HSC is outdoors 38.5' @ 2,000 ft.

Dream Queen finished October 4/5, Pineapple Train wreck October 8,9 and Mango Trees around October 10 12.

The breeder pack claimed September 15 to October 1 was the finish time for Dream Queen and Pineapple Train wreck and September 20-Oct 5 for the Mango Trees.


I'm looking for a very late September to VERY early October finish, preferred to finish before October 3.

Looking at the JellyRancher. Any real world outdoors info appreciated

 

[GlassJoe]

Jelly rancher has been very practical for me as a suburban grower. I need to take some more pics this weekend when I have time in the morning light but I'll probably be chopping in a week or two. My stuff went into flower a little early so take it with a grain of salt but it's getting to the end in terms of weight; it's getting the sideshow Bob look from the weight of the colas now.

Tight internodal distance, not a huge stretcher. Would recommend topping (maybe even twice) or somewhat aggressive LST. It would be good to clone the hell out of and run in tighter spaces to take advantage of it not being super leggy. It very much smells like fruit candy.

Pics below are 6th of June, 8th of July, 28th of July, 8th of August, and 22nd of August.

The one in the front of the picture is an apple blossom (very sturdy plant, doesn't need much trellising, frosty and pleasant smelling, very large and vigorous, somewhat apically dominant). The other three are a mother jelly from seed in the back, a topped clone of it on the left and another untopped clone on the right. The first pic is two I popped from seed.

 

[Oldgoat1959]

Thanks, your going to be a week or so earlier finishing than me because of latitude.
Between 32 and 33, I'd guess from the cacti