Hydroponics

potroast said:

Nope.

The way I understand it is that a non-hermie female is stressed to hermie, and she self-pollinates and those seeds are feminized. If she pollinates the adjacent plant, those seeds will become hermie plants, or at least carry the hermie trait.

HTH

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that is exactly the way it is done.

"kaos ive noticed that with my plants ... since i added cfls with my hps the plants aint as tall as my last crop ... but are real bushy with loads of growth spots"
Nice, cfls down low? sounds ideal, might whack a few in. I love bushes!

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Hey Potroast , i have a question for you. Do you have a 50-50% chance of getting fem seeds from a crop the got pollinated by one clone that turned hermie and pollinated a all female crop of clones?

Nope.

The way I understand it is that a non-hermie female is stressed to hermie, and she self-pollinates and those seeds are feminized. If she pollinates the adjacent plant, those seeds will become hermie plants, or at least carry the hermie trait."

Ok, wait Im still confused...So all the seeds will be fem, but they all might hermie?

I was reading the Marijuana's Grow Bible last night... in the breeding section. Or maybe it was just some forum.... who knows... anyways, plants can carry an XX, Xx, or xx. with feminized seeds they are XX while males are xx and Xx being the hermie's. When choosing a plant to breed with you want to find the XX *complete female* and to find this you must plant alot of seeds and then work on stressing the plants under the lights working 12/12 and 24/0 to see if you're plant will be a hermie. If it doesn't try to seed itself you have found something that is very special and should keep this XX as a basis for creation.

Is this complete bullshit coming out of my mouth... who knows I haven't tried it.

kaos.underwave said:

Ok, wait Im still confused...So all the seeds will be fem, but they all might hermie?

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No, the question is whether the seed will have a hermie trait, because a grower will toss any seed that has that possibility. If the pollen came from a female and pollinated herself, then those seeds will be the feminized you are looking for. If the pollen gets on another female, then those seeds will be variable sex, and could have the hermie trait.

sleeper05 said:

I was reading the Marijuana's Grow Bible last night... in the breeding section. Or maybe it was just some forum.... who knows... anyways, plants can carry an XX, Xx, or xx. with feminized seeds they are XX while males are xx and Xx being the hermie's. When choosing a plant to breed with you want to find the XX *complete female* and to find this you must plant alot of seeds and then work on stressing the plants under the lights working 12/12 and 24/0 to see if you're plant will be a hermie. If it doesn't try to seed itself you have found something that is very special and should keep this XX as a basis for creation.

Is this complete bullshit coming out of my mouth... who knows I haven't tried it.

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The XX 'complete female' is the typical female plant with no hermie trait, and if you are able to stress her to produce some pollen, that's a way to make feminized seeds.

HTH

i have a question.ok my crop was about a month old and suffered some heat stress,burned a couple of fan leaves.i cut the ones that had over 50% damage.what is the posssibility that they will hermi???

There's very little possibility that they will sprout pollen sacks because of some high heat that damaged some leaves.

HTH

what are some good organic nutrients that i can use in my ebb and flow? has ANY one grown organic hydro yet,if so what where your results and taste compared to normal nutrients?

potroast i am currently growing some power plant in a grow canada hydro box but after seeing snoopdogs shizzle i decided to up my program. i just bought a 1000wt hps and a 400wt mh each fixture is set up for a 6" cooling tube. i bought a carbon filter and fan assm. i also bought a co2 controller that measures ppm and temp. i plan to clone and start the clones under two 150 florescent lights then move them to the 400wt mh lights. how long after the clones root should i wait before putting them under the mh light and how close to the plants can i put the 400"? how far from the plants should i keep the 1000wt lamp? i plan to keep my mothers in dirt but want to build my own hydro set up. i had a pump failure while at the beach with my grow canada box and kilt my chit boo hoo, so plan to run 2 pumps in parrallel on this set up with check balls in line so they wont back flow and 1 pump will keep things alive until i can swap out a faulty pump. i also plan to put nylon stockings over the entire pump to work as a pre filter to keep trash out of the pump. if you were setting this up would you go aero or hyrdo??? i purchased a bunch of sprayer heads to water via aero, should the aero spray the roots the entire time the lights are on? is there a timer i can set up to run the sprayers like on 4 out of five minutes with a 1 minute off cycle? would that be preferred to running the sprayers full time? i plan to used an entire room and build a sub room for my flowering room. who sells a thick reflective curtain for the door way to the flowering room, i want easy in and out buy just closing the curtain to keep light off the plants as the lights in the rest of the room will be on an 18 hour cycle. potroast thx so much for any advice you can lend...im going to start my new set up with kush and powerplant, and will add two other strains next cycle... wahoo!!!

Is there a taste difference between hydro or dirt grown?

brooklyn87 said:

what are some good organic nutrients that i can use in my ebb and flow? has ANY one grown organic hydro yet,if so what where your results and taste compared to normal nutrients?

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Yeah, I run mostly organic hydro nutes now using GH FloraNova. It's better than the other 2 brands that I've used, Botanicare Pure Blend Pro, and B'Cuzz Atami organics. I also use a kelp supplement.

I really don't know about taste differences, they all taste good to me. I've compared my bud with other grower's organic soil-grown bud, and they all say that mine is better.

HTH

ratman said:

i plan to clone and start the clones under two 150 florescent lights then move them to the 400wt mh lights. how long after the clones root should i wait before putting them under the mh light and how close to the plants can i put the 400"? how far from the plants should i keep the 1000wt lamp?

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Hey ratman, you won't need that much light for rooting cuttings. Figure about 20 watts per sqft of cloning area, so if you have 2 sqft of cuttings, you need about 40 watts of fluorescent over them. Once they are rooted they can go under the bright. Start your 400 at 3 feet above, and lower the light 6 inches every 2-3 days, down to 1 foot above. For your 1K, keep it 15-18 inches above. That's the beauty of air-cooled hoods.

ratman said:

if you were setting this up would you go aero or hydro???

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Well, aero is a form of hydro, so yes.

ratman said:

i purchased a bunch of sprayer heads to water via aero, should the aero spray the roots the entire time the lights are on? is there a timer i can set up to run the sprayers like on 4 out of five minutes with a 1 minute off cycle? would that be preferred to running the sprayers full time?

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I've never messed with sprayers, but they usually spray 24/7. If you have a cyclestat timer, go with 1 minute ON and 4 minutes OFF.

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i plan to used an entire room and build a sub room for my flowering room. who sells a thick reflective curtain for the door way to the flowering room, i want easy in and out buy just closing the curtain to keep light off the plants as the lights in the rest of the room will be on an 18 hour cycle.

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A lot of growers use panda plastic, and it will work well, but it's noisy and gets dried out and crinkled pretty fast. I've always used some heavy black fabric.

HTH

potroast, i ended up going with 1000wt mh for veg it was only a few bucks more than the 400. i will pick up a small 40 or so watt flourescent light for my clones, but now that i have the two 150wt flourescent lights. (they are the type with five u shaped tubes in a circle that mount to the screw in base) would you use the 150's to supplement the 1000wt mh for veg or the 1000wt hps for flower or one in each area??? thx so much for your advice...BTW i just picked up some flourolicious to add to my next cycle, i want to show the girls as much love as possible.lol

You may find a use for those CFLs as side lighting for some plants in the flowering room, or maybe for some mother plants.

HTH

What is the difference between clone and regular seeds in hydro grow.
I would like to make hydro grow (rockwool)(vertical 360° SOG) with regular seeds because i dont have place for big mothers to make clones. What do you suggest i attempt to use white rino and LST method for lowering plants?!?

The problem is not the size of the plant, it's the motion of the ocean, so to speak.

The difference between a seed plant and a cutting is the roots. The system you're talking about using is designed for plants with a diffuse root system, like a cutting. A seed plant has 1 big root, and many small ones.

and welcome to Rollitup!

HTH

Hi. I've used Rapid Grow Bloom water soluable granuals with good success.
It's 15/30/15. Good ingrecients list too. But that was for soil.

Can I use them in a rubbermaid tub 20 gal bubbler?

I've got a bucket of the stuff still and will be switching to hydro flowering next time.

Thanks.

If the label doesn't mention hydroponics, then I wouldn't use it. Soil fertilizers don't contain many trace elements, because they are already in the soil. For best results with hydro, use some hydro nutes.

HTH

hello mr. roast! I has a two question for you today.

1)when using normal starter plug humidome cloning tray. Is it necessary to keep the water level 1/4 the way up till the end? I feel that maybe leaving it almost completely dry for the last 3-4 days might help.

I end up having to change the water 2-3 times before all my clones pop roots and when they do 1/4 of them are grimey. I use 1ml/litre h2o2 coir plugs

2) do you use superthrive? Al B. puts it in the magical sauce category, but I feel it may be something I could utilize with my consistent root stressing. If so what concentration do you use with cloning and or normal hydro use.

Hi Potroast. I would like to put six plants in my drip irrigation system using only Hydroton with 1 1000 wt. light. The pots are two gallon bato buckets. Can you suggest a feeding schedule that I could use for this scenario throughout the plants' lives? An archetype would be extremely helpful.

Thank you in advance.

gvega187 said:

hello mr. roast! I has a two question for you today.

1)when using normal starter plug humidome cloning tray. Is it necessary to keep the water level 1/4 the way up till the end? I feel that maybe leaving it almost completely dry for the last 3-4 days might help.

I end up having to change the water 2-3 times before all my clones pop roots and when they do 1/4 of them are grimey. I use 1ml/litre h2o2 coir plugs

2) do you use superthrive? Al B. puts it in the magical sauce category, but I feel it may be something I could utilize with my consistent root stressing. If so what concentration do you use with cloning and or normal hydro use.

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I'm a little confused, are you saying you leave your plugs in standing water? I would not suggest that, I only use rockwool, it should always be wet, but it should never be left in water. I've never had grimey roots. Is that 50 percent H2O2? What else are you putting in your soup?

Yes, I've always used SuperThrive. It's mostly vitamin B, but it's so concentrated that it's cheap and easy to use. For rooting solution I use 20 drops/gallon, about 1ml. Then for veg and the first 3 weeks of flowering I use 2 drops/gallon.

HTH