I have a confession...

metalback

metalback

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black jesus said:
What's the most you have pulled off a single auto? The plants themselves are killer smoke. The syrup I just chopped down is the frostest weed I have ever touched. It feels like it was rolled in thc. But from 2 plants I pulled 1 zip. You seen the size of them. The biggest one was over 2 feet and that was in a 5 gallon bucket. I'm sorry but what am I doing so wrong where I can't get over an ounce. Hands down what strain do I get right now that will give me over 2 zips without trying....the quality of the autos I've grow have been top notch. The syrup I would grow again if I had seeds. But I refuse to pay for them again.
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Have you ever checked your ph? high ph kept my first grow small.
 
Frajola

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Big_Lou said:
So beautiful, man. I really need to get MY ass in gear....I've got the seeds, the $$$ for a setup, the means, and the space....just afraid/hesitant, I suppose....fuckin pigs around here....
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There r pigs all over mate. Follow the rules u ll be fine. Peace
 
black jesus

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SickSickWorld said:
Autos I've grown in the past 3 months. All weights fully dried with obsessive top shelf trimming.
All dates from sprouting, seed straight to soil.
Grown in BioBizz Light Mix & Perlite at between 70/30-50/50.
My 3-part nutrients cost £3.

Short Stuff Seeds Tha Shiznit - 69 days
Nearly deaded this one off at 13 days with overzealous low stress training. Snapped main stem, killed vertical growth. She was 8" tall.
15ltr airpot
28.7g

TH Seeds MK Ultra Kush - 82 days
Plant was a joy start to finish, she was a pretty bitch and I loved the way she grew. Only about 14".
15ltr airpot
30.5g

Speed Seeds Blueberry - 66 days
Chopped early, it pissed me off. Read my journal to see my rage. Maybe could have packed on some weight, but fuck this plant.
12ltr smartpot
32.8g

Speed Seeds Northern Lights - 80-suttin.
Latest harvest, hated the smell when she was growing, but since curing smell is fantastic.
12ltr smartpot
56.4g

Minimal experience. Cheap equipment. Rookie mistakes. Temperature issues. Underwatering and limp leaves. Overfeeding and burnt tips.

Quality nugs.
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Your yields are what I've been seeing in a few of my grows. For some strains I'm ok with 20-30grams because I know that's what the plant is supposed to be pulling. But when I grow something where people are getting 3 oz then I looking for answers...what I got outside now I'm loving. The whole drop a million seeds might be a good thing for me to do. It allows me to see a lot of plants and learn how they behave...when I do this next year I'm going to run different strains in different totes and then I can really learn somethings...I'm trying to make berry Ryder seeds now. And I hoping I can make some more of these syrup seeds
 
black jesus

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Thanks for everyone chiming in on this. I'm at a wall when it comes to get good yields on single autos......

Ok let's get this simple for the guy who has a learning disability. @tekdc911 my soil might need to be lighter? It has crossed my mind and I do plan on trying to add a lot more perlite the next round. So if I'm just doing a bag of soil what should be my ratio? 1:1,2:1, 3:1 or 4:1... Let say I I go as light as possible should that mean I should use a stronger base. I know happy frog is good for seeds and young plants, and ocean forest might be to strong. But if it's cut with perlite would that cut the nutes available as well.
 
tekdc911

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black jesus said:
Thanks for everyone chiming in on this. I'm at a wall when it comes to get good yields on single autos......

Ok let's get this simple for the guy who has a learning disability. @tekdc911 my soil might need to be lighter? It has crossed my mind and I do plan on trying to add a lot more perlite the next round. So if I'm just doing a bag of soil what should be my ratio? 1:1,2:1, 3:1 or 4:1... Let say I I go as light as possible should that mean I should use a stronger base. I know happy frog is good for seeds and young plants, and ocean forest might be to strong. But if it's cut with perlite would that cut the nutes available as well.
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i would cut down ffof with happy frog and perlite 1/2 - 1/4 - 1/4 and use that on the top half of the bucket and full str on the bottom then start a veg feed at the first sign of yellowing on the lowers ... too light and it dries up too fast in the heat .....

1/4 strength nutes and alternate with plain water with plenty run off until vertical stretch has stopped
 
black jesus

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tekdc911 said:
i would cut down ffof with happy frog and perlite 1/2 - 1/4 - 1/4 and use that on the top half of the bucket and full str on the bottom then start a veg feed at the first sign of yellowing on the lowers ... too light and it dries up too fast in the heat .....

1/4 strength nutes and alternate with plain water with plenty run off until vertical stretch has stopped
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You saved me fromm having to start a thread...you say full strength at the bottom. Is that full hf and of mix or just of...gosh I didn't want to have spend the money on fox farm soil. It's not really high but you get 2x buying kellogg's patio plus.. I'm trying to compare the stats for both but I can't find fox farm soil break down anywhere...kellogg's is something like 30-10-10...I'll post a pic
 
bertaluchi

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whitebb2727 said:
I let some of my lowers buds stay a few weeks extra and the Heisenbergs threw nanners. I saved the pollen. I'm going to cross it to another Heisenberg and a couple other autos I have.

I been thinking about crossing it to a c99 to.
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Do it bro, I had a SODK throw nanners and I chucked it on Heisenberg Special, I have grown a couple outdoors and they are really good little plants.
 
tekdc911

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black jesus said:
You saved me fromm having to start a thread...you say full strength at the bottom. Is that full hf and of mix or just of...gosh I didn't want to have spend the money on fox farm soil. It's not really high but you get 2x buying kellogg's patio plus.. I'm trying to compare the stats for both but I can't find fox farm soil break down anywhere...kellogg's is something like 30-10-10...I'll post a pic
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have you thought about running coco ? youd have to feed them but nutes are cheap

are you using kellogs one these ? i looked it up that shit needs to be cut down sounds really hot...
even read some threads on it
 
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tekdc911

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Do a side by side same ratio's of light mix and perlite to kellogs and ffof bongsmilie only way you will know if its worth it to you or not


if it was me i would just get some soil amendments some peat ,perlite,lime,and mix the kellogs with that like half and half and start feeding at preflower
 
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black jesus

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tekdc911 said:
have you thought about running coco ? youd have to feed them but nutes are cheap

are you using kellogs one these ? i looked it up that shit needs to be cut down sounds really hot...
even read some threads on it
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I've been eyeing a pro mix style...buying some peat moss as my base and try to amend it a bit to buffer my skills. Promix is $24 a 2 cf bale and moss is $12 for 4 cf bale....I think I ran a mix of soils honestly. I think I was being a bit careless when I started. The berry ryders I believe is kellogg's with added perlite...but can't say for sure. The drainage is poor and no where near how I like it. When I get home today I'm drilling a ton more hole at the bottom and side. The temps have dropped out here...when I started I was seeing 105+ now we are sitting at 90. And at night we drop down to the low 60s
 
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black jesus

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tekdc911 said:
Do a side by side same ratio's of light mix and perlite to kellogs and ffof bongsmilie only way you will know if its worth it to you or not
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OK I have 20 of these berry ryders left. I will do 10 per tote outside. And you say I should run 3-1 perlite?
 
tekdc911

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black jesus said:
OK I have 20 of these berry ryders left. I will do 10 per tote outside. And you say I should run 3-1 perlite?
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sounds about right alot of people run the fox straight now and dont have problems with it ...... i know if that kellogs is really a 30/10/10 it needs to be cut way down and probably wont need to be fed nitrogen for a while and may still be fixed going into flower
 
black jesus

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tekdc911 said:
Do a side by side same ratio's of light mix and perlite to kellogs and ffof bongsmilie only way you will know if its worth it to you or not


if it was me i would just get some soil amendments some peat ,perlite,lime,and mix the kellogs with that like half and half and start feeding at preflower
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Now if they saying kellogs is hot shouldn't mixing it help. So what amendments would keep it from going hot again.I'm thinking blood meal and bone meal..
 
black jesus

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tekdc911 said:
sounds about right alot of people run the fox straight now and dont have problems with it ...... i know if that kellogs is really a 30/10/10 it needs to be cut way down and probably wont need to be fed nitrogen for a while and may still be fixed going into flower
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Why do I have the thinking hot soil is good? If you cut it shouldn't it be OK plus it drain better
 
tekdc911

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black jesus said:
Why do I have the thinking hot soil is good? If you cut it shouldn't it be OK plus it drain better
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it has to be completely mixed or the roots will find hot spots and your plant will have random burns ..... half and half is still 15/5/5 not including whatever you cut it with if not inert ...... i run about 7-5-6 in veg and 5-4-8 in bloom base nutes in almost inert mix
 
tekdc911

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that stuff sound like it would be great to plant a established clone in and veg for a couple months on just water but will need some serious tweaking .... maybe it wont be so bad the second time around if you recycled it
 
black jesus

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tekdc911 said:
it has to be completely mixed or the roots will find hot spots and your plant will have random burns ..... half and half is still 15/5/5 not including whatever you cut it with if not inert ...... i run about 7-5-6 in veg and 5-4-8 in bloom base nutes in almost inert mix
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So I would have to 1-3 cut? Dang...
 
tekdc911

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black jesus said:
So I would have to 1-3 cut? Dang...
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all i can say is try it man ..... they need nitro dont get me wrong but thats really cramming it to them ..... is that a lowes product ? maybe i can find it locally and play with it i would know in a week or so by how seedlings acted
 
tekdc911

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black jesus said:
Now if they saying kellogs is hot shouldn't mixing it help. So what amendments would keep it from going hot again.I'm thinking blood meal and bone meal..
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Hot is just a saying for something too nutrient rich ..... Blood and bone meal are both very very concentrated stuff normally. They would be added after the soil was already depeleted of nutrients
 
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