If This Is Such a Rich Country, Why Are We Getting Squeezed?

Dankdude

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Well, my IQ is 56 and I can out debate both of you fuckers.

And I ain't too bad on the banjo either. :mrgreen:

Vi
In your own mind, you never bring anything new to the table.... So out Debate..... I don't think so... your a legend in your own mind.
 

Dankdude

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Med My views on second hand smoke are not uneducated, there has not been any credible evidence to the contrary of my argument.
First hand smoke however is a different story.

As far as the claims of many environmentalist (especially Al Gore):
They go beyond the laws of physics.
 

ViRedd

New Member
In your own mind, you never bring anything new to the table.... So out Debate..... I don't think so... your a legend in your own mind.
Well, the fact is, there really isn't much "new" to bring to the table, Dank. Either one is for more government control over our lives, or one isn't. There are just new ways of presenting each viewpoint.

Vi
 

medicineman

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Med My views on second hand smoke are not uneducated, there has not been any credible evidence to the contrary of my argument.
First hand smoke however is a different story.

As far as the claims of many environmentalist (especially Al Gore):
They go beyond the laws of physics.
Heres a first hand report for you Dankster. My 5 year old grandaughter has a tendency towards bronchial problems. The Dr. has said to keep her away from cigarette smoke. Now here's the truth about that. We, my wife and I are basically raising her as her mother is a speed freak. When we let her mother take her for a day (She and all her friends smoke) she comes back and can hardly breathe, we have to give her a treatment. So I know firsthand that second hand smoke is harmful to my precious little grandaughter. When she is with us, No smoking is allowed in the house, she is fine and needs no breathing treatments, so scoff all you want, but I sees it first hand my man. As for your head in the sand view of global warming, oh well, everyone is entitled to an opinion, it's just yours happens to be wrong, and no debating will change your mind, so I won't waste my time. I'll just say this about that: Most scierntists that are scoffing at Mans involvement in global warming are affiliated some way with the gross polluters.
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
Med any smoke would be an irritant, not just cigarette smoke. If she stood right next to a BBQ grill, the smoke from it would do the same thing.

Look My Kids were born with Pulmonic Stenosis, which is a narrowing and thickening of the Pulmonary Heart Valve. Asthma cones with the territory. Any kind of smoke, Cigarette smoke, BBQ smoke, smoke from fireworks and house fires irritate the asthma.
I never said that second hand smoke wasn't an irritant, but as for causing cancer, that's open to debate.

As far as Global warming, the scientist on the Environmentalist side of the debate can't even keep their facts strait, most conflict.
Co2 promotes plant growth (most marijuana growers know this) Plants in turn take that Co2 and produce oxygen.
Second 1 volcanic eruption produces more greenhouse gases than man could possibly produce in 10,000 years. These gases being Carbon Monoxide, Sulphur Dioxide, hydrogen sulfide, carbon dioxide, hydrogen chloride, hydrogen fluoride and helium.

While I do not deny that there is cyclic weather patterns that to the layman would appear to be the Global Warming that people like Al Gore cry wolf about, Nature always has a way of correcting this. Core Samples have shown this.

If you follow the money, you will find out that Al Gore is profiting off of the Global Warming scare.
 

medicineman

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Med any smoke would be an irritant, not just cigarette smoke. If she stood right next to a BBQ grill, the smoke from it would do the same thing.

Look My Kids were born with Pulmonic Stenosis, which is a narrowing and thickening of the Pulmonary Heart Valve. Asthma cones with the territory. Any kind of smoke, Cigarette smoke, BBQ smoke, smoke from fireworks and house fires irritate the asthma.
I never said that second hand smoke wasn't an irritant, but as for causing cancer, that's open to debate.

As far as Global warming, the scientist on the Environmentalist side of the debate can't even keep their facts strait, most conflict.
Co2 promotes plant growth (most marijuana growers know this) Plants in turn take that Co2 and produce oxygen.
Second 1 volcanic eruption produces more greenhouse gases than man could possibly produce in 10,000 years. These gases being Carbon Monoxide, Sulphur Dioxide, hydrogen sulfide, carbon dioxide, hydrogen chloride, hydrogen fluoride and helium.

While I do not deny that there is cyclic weather patterns that to the layman would appear to be the Global Warming that people like Al Gore cry wolf about, Nature always has a way of correcting this. Core Samples have shown this.

If you follow the money, you will find out that Al Gore is profiting off of the Global Warming scare.
The warming arguement is closed for me, I can see your convinced and stubborn, so be it. The second hand smoke thing might be true if you could hold her in a room filled with barbeque smoke, but like most folks, we barbeque outdoors. It only happens when she spends time with her asshole mother who the Dr. has told to not smoke around her, and she keeps her in the car while she smokes or takes her to someones house where they all smoke, so I'm pretty sure second hand smoke is dangerous to her. There are something like 86 different toxic chemicals in second hand smoke, I don't feel like doing the cut and paste on this but if you come up with a lower # I'll look into it.
 

ViRedd

New Member
So Med ... Instead of rooting for government control over the entire populous, why not just sue the mother for child abuse? Why do you libs always want to make decisions for the way the rest of us think and live? I mean, if Dank's children and my children don't have lung problems like your grand daughter does, why slam your government controls down on us?

Vi
 

medicineman

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So Med ... Instead of rooting for government control over the entire populous, why not just sue the mother for child abuse? Why do you libs always want to make decisions for the way the rest of us think and live? I mean, if Dank's children and my children don't have lung problems like your grand daughter does, why slam your government controls down on us?

Vi
WTF, are you going insane. what does my granddaughters second hand smoke exposure have to do with me slamming down government controls on anyone. I choose to not smoke and to also keep my Granddaughter away from second hand smoke as much as possible. Would I bring her to your house where you smoke those putrid stogies, certainly not. But I wouldn't oppose you smoking them. I quit quite a few years ago and have made it a habit to stay away from the smoke as much as possible. I even hate going to casinos because of the smoke, but it is your right to smoke and if I don't like smoke, I'll stay the fuck away from it. They passed a law last year forbidding smoking in restaurants, about time I say. Smoke-em-if you got em.
 

ViRedd

New Member
Now, that's a low blow, Med. My stoggies are NOT putrid! :blsmoke:

"I even hate going to casinos because of the smoke, but it is your right to smoke and if I don't like smoke, I'll stay the fuck away from it. They passed a law last year forbidding smoking in restaurants, about time I say."

That's what I was refering to, Med.

I happen to agree with you on smoking in restaurants, and I hate Vegas for a few reasons, among which, are the freakin' traffic, crazy drivers, the heat ... AND the stinking casinos. They reek with tobacco smoke. Know what's funny? ... I like to sit down and play Keno and have a few drinks on the house while I smoke a stoggie. I only smoke the good stuff ... quality cigars. You should see the nasty looks I get from the skinny old ladies who are chain smoking their Cinderella Lights. Its just my way of getting even. ~lol~

I believe a person has the right to do whatever he/she wants ... as long as the rights of another are not violated in the process. And ... a couple of assholes sitting in the next booth, blowing cigarette smoke across my dinner plate just pisses me off to no end. Bah!

Vi
 

medicineman

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Now, that's a low blow, Med. My stoggies are NOT putrid! :blsmoke:

"I even hate going to casinos because of the smoke, but it is your right to smoke and if I don't like smoke, I'll stay the fuck away from it. They passed a law last year forbidding smoking in restaurants, about time I say."

That's what I was refering to, Med.

I happen to agree with you on smoking in restaurants, and I hate Vegas for a few reasons, among which, are the freakin' traffic, crazy drivers, the heat ... AND the stinking casinos. They reek with tobacco smoke. Know what's funny? ... I like to sit down and play Keno and have a few drinks on the house while I smoke a stoggie. I only smoke the good stuff ... quality cigars. You should see the nasty looks I get from the skinny old ladies who are chain smoking their Cinderella Lights. Its just my way of getting even. ~lol~

I believe a person has the right to do whatever he/she wants ... as long as the rights of another are not violated in the process. And ... a couple of assholes sitting in the next booth, blowing cigarette smoke across my dinner plate just pisses me off to no end. Bah!

Vi
So don't they call that second hand smoke? I always sat in the non-smoking sections, but sometimes that invisible line was right next to a bevy of smokers. About the crazy drivers, I'll agree. They come from everywhere and the illegals are the worst. I drove an 80 thousand pound concrete mixer on the crazy streets of vegas for 7+ years and never had an accident, I call that defensive driving or extreme luck. The teenage girls are the scariest, they don't have a frikin clue of what that mixer would do to their Honda.
 

ViRedd

New Member
So don't they call that second hand smoke? I always sat in the non-smoking sections, but sometimes that invisible line was right next to a bevy of smokers. About the crazy drivers, I'll agree. They come from everywhere and the illegals are the worst. I drove an 80 thousand pound concrete mixer on the crazy streets of vegas for 7+ years and never had an accident, I call that defensive driving or extreme luck. The teenage girls are the scariest, they don't have a frikin clue of what that mixer would do to their Honda.
~lol~ Now that's a great idea, Med. The next time I come to Vegas, I'm gonna rent a cement mixer. I'll show those fuckers some defensive driving ... like defensive as in counter punching! :-?

Vi

PS: The next time someone asks you: "Do you mind if I smoke?" Just retort with: "Why no ... do you mind if I fart?"
 

medicineman

New Member
~lol~ Now that's a great idea, Med. The next time I come to Vegas, I'm gonna rent a cement mixer. I'll show those fuckers some defensive driving ... like defensive as in counter punching! :-?

Vi

PS: The next time someone asks you: "Do you mind if I smoke?" Just retort with: "Why no ... do you mind if I fart?"
LOL, that was funny, I might try that, but everyone I know already knows I mind, a stranger might get the response. As far as the mixer thing, I had a few close calls from idiots but kept the painted side up.
 

medicineman

New Member
My motto: Never drive along the side of a cement truck ... especially on mountain roads.

Vi
Very wise indeed. When ever I go out on the road, I give all the trucks a wide berth, When you're talking 80,000+ pounds against a 3-6K LB. vehicle, you've not a chance in hell of winning that encounter.
 

ViRedd

New Member
You are so full of poop. Show me proof that you sent back your SS checks and I'll listen to your commie crapola.
Now why in the world would I want to send back my SS check? After all Med, that SS check represents money that was taken from me over all the years of my working life, at the point of a fucking gun, by class envy warrior/thugs like you and used interest free. I had no choice in the matter. All I'm doing is getting a monthly refund from the Stalinist bastards that stole it from me in the first place. :hump:

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
Now why in the world would I want to send back my SS check? After all Med, that SS check represents money that was taken from me over all the years of my working life, at the point of a fucking gun, by class envy warrior/thugs like you and used interest free. I had no choice in the matter. All I'm doing is getting a monthly refund from the Stalinist bastards that stole it from me in the first place. :hump:

Vi
You're taking money from the government, just as you accused me and Dank, show me the difference, or quit your bitchin. BTW I also paid into SS, and consider it my retirement, Plus my UNION pension and some investments, and having a policy of paying myself while I was working, (saving).....I'm doing allright without working and really don't know how I found the time to work, ~LOL~. Thank the lord, retirement is what I've been waiting for and it's finally here, yehaaa. So go ahead you old reprobate, work untill you croak. You probably wouldn't know how to retire. I do things I want, when I want, where I want, and to whom I want, well maybe not the last one.
 
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