In the news today: Ecstasy does not wreck the mind, study claims

ANC

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There is no evidence that ecstasy causes brain damage, according to one of the largest studies into the effects of the drug. Too many previous studies made over-arching conclusions from insufficient data, say the scientists responsible for the research, and the drug's dangers have been greatly exaggerated.
The finding will shock campaigners who have claimed ecstasy poses a real risk of triggering brain damage. They have argued that it can induce memory loss, decrease cognitive performance and has long-lasting effects on behaviour.
But experts who have argued that the drug is relatively safe welcomed the new paper. "I always assumed that, when properly designed studies were carried out, we would find ecstasy does not cause brain damage," said Professor David Nutt, who was fired as chair of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs by Alan Johnson, then home secretary, for publicly stating alcohol and tobacco were more harmful than ecstasy.
The study was carried out by a team led by Professor John Halpern of Harvard Medical School and published in the journal Addiction last week. Funded by a $1.8m grant from the US National Institute on Drug Abuse, it was launched specifically to avoid methodological drawbacks that have bedevilled previous attempts to pinpoint whether or not ecstasy users suffer brain damage.
Ecstasy – or 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, or MDMA – came into widespread use in the 1980s when taking it was linked to raves and the playing of dance music. Its symptoms include euphoria, a sense of intimacy with others and diminished anxiety and depression. In the US alone, more than 12 million have taken it.
But the taking of ecstasy has also been linked to damage to the central nervous system and research in recent years has suggested that long-term changes to emotional states and behaviour have been triggered by consumption of the drug. Possession of it has been made an offence in most western nations.
However, Halpern was sharply critical of the quality of the research that had linked ecstasy to brain damage. "Too many studies have been carried out on small populations, while overarching conclusions have been drawn from them," he said. For a start, some previous research has studied users who were taken from a culture dominated by all-night dancing, which thus exposed these individuals to sleep and fluid deprivation – factors that are themselves known to produce long-lasting cognitive effects. Non-users were not selected from those from a similar background, which therefore skewed results. In addition, past studies have not taken sufficient account of the fact that ecstasy users take other drugs or alcohol that could affect cognition or that they may have suffered intellectual impairment before they started taking ecstasy. In Halpern's study only ecstasy users who took no other drugs and who had suffered no previous impairment were selected.
The resulting experiment whittled down 1,500 potential participants to 52 selected users, whose cognitive abilities matched those of a group of 59 non-users. "We even took hair samples of participants to test whether they were telling the truth about their drug and alcohol habits," said Halpern. "Essentially we compared one group of people who danced and raved and took ecstasy with a similar group of individuals who danced and raved but who did not take ecstasy. When we did that, we found that there was no difference in their cognitive abilities." In other words, previous studies highlighted problems triggered by other factors, such as use of other drugs or drink, or sleep deprivation.
But the drug still posed risks, he said. "Ecstasy consumption is dangerous because illegally made pills often contain contaminants that can have harmful side-effects."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/feb/19/ecstasy-harm-brain-new-study
 

OldGrowth420

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It's not the mdma that gets you, it's the cocaine and methamphetamine in those bitches.

X pills DO FRY YOUR BRAIN

MDMA does not.

:clap:
 

ANC

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You gotta love the Dutchs' setup, when yuo go clubbing and buy some molly, you simply walk to an ambulance parked outside, they test your drugs for purity while checking your vitals while you wait, no questions asked.
 

Illumination

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why didn't I renounce my citizenship and just stay there while I had the chance.....oh well...I do have decent chems here...but man...

Namaste':leaf:
 

OldGrowth420

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You gotta love the Dutchs' setup, when yuo go clubbing and buy some molly, you simply walk to an ambulance parked outside, they test your drugs for purity while checking your vitals while you wait, no questions asked.
Wow awesome
 

ndangerspecimen101

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"But the drug still posed risks, he said. "Ecstasy consumption is dangerous because illegally made pills often contain contaminants that can have harmful side-effects."


That's why I say loud and clear folks... buy a test kit! True MDMA is the least of your worries ;)
 

The Cryptkeeper

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It's not the mdma that gets you, it's the cocaine and methamphetamine in those bitches.

X pills DO FRY YOUR BRAIN

MDMA does not.

:clap:
Wow. Cocaine. One of the most expensive fucking drugs in the world, is used as a cutting agent in MDMA tablets, one of the cheapest illicit stimulants. Genius.
 

Rodart Cockburn

New Member
I think its hilarious that the cutting agents are always severely poisonous or caustic chemicals or drugs that are more exotic and expensive, except meth.

Peace
 

Tenner

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Well practically this news doesnt change anything, extacy is bad if it has contaminants. Well, where are the %100 mdma certified pills then? lol I`ve never taken it but i think i will do soon. I hate the fact that im gonna have that "mdma look" which people look down at....
 

Gold medal bong hits

Active Member
So I see it like this. Only reason mdma is dangerous is because it's illegal. Reminds me of that judge can't remember her name,That said only dangerous thing about weed is the legal dangers.

I really do hope some of these studies on Psilocybin,Mdma and others start the gateways to talks of legalizing of them.

I mean it's 2011 we really need to get rid of these old laws that are wasting money,peoples lives and time. If a person can't handle there alcohol and dies there isn't a million people calling for it to be illegal.
 

ANC

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You could actualy make more money these days selling the cutting agents then the guy who makes and sells the pills.
 

KillerBudz1

New Member
While were at it get lsd to people with cluster headaches. Already proven its a cure.

What was the study on psilocybin for? Also im sure mdma has a cure maybe its a death ward :)
 

thehairyllama

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I hate when ignorant people get pressed pills and act like they know whats in it. I had this one chick falsely advertising have roll containing MDMA + Psylocibin, impossible. Most likely was just 2C-I or another RC that produces exstacy like high and obviously some visuals. I only and will only deal with high quality molly, keep those pressed tabs away from me =D.
 

KillerBudz1

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I hate when ignorant people get pressed pills and act like they know whats in it. I had this one chick falsely advertising have roll containing MDMA + Psylocibin, impossible. Most likely was just 2C-I or another RC that produces exstacy like high and obviously some visuals. I only and will only deal with high quality molly, keep those pressed tabs away from me =D.


She was seriously claming to have psilocybin in them? My god i bet she sold some of theme.

Percisly why these drugs are illegal, dumb shits like her
 

thehairyllama

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Exactly, and it goes to show such a large percentage of drug users are ignorant to what they ingest and on actual true facts about drugs in general. My wifes brother rambles on and on about how he has thousands of holes in his brain from taking so many tabs and when he cracks his back the drug kicks in again. But him being the type that if I told him actual facts with the proof in front of his face he wouldnt believe me so i hold my peace when it comes to him.
 

Swag

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It's not the mdma that gets you, it's the cocaine and methamphetamine in those bitches.

X pills DO FRY YOUR BRAIN

MDMA does not.

:clap:
If I'm not mistaken Methamphetamine (well amphetamine) is the sort of backbone psychoactive structure to MDMA (Methylenedioxymethamphetamine) no? They both have main binding affinity to basically the same serotonin and dopamine receptors. Wouldn't the addition of some methamphetamine to the pills just slightly prolong the already present effects of the MDMA? Methamphetamine keeps the neurochemicals in the synapse longer but in less peak amounts while MDMA is the opposite? Either way aren't both MDMA and Methamphetamine proven to be more neurotoxic than amphetamine (speed) in general? I always assumed that was the reason for limited occasional use.
 
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