Indoor and outdoor perpetual harvests with seeds and clones

honkeytown

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you need to add a new breaker to the panel and run wire to the new outlets....shitty man...btw....dont put any fans on your clones...bad bad bad...
 

theloadeddragon

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no fans on the clones, the bin that they are in completely encompasses them. The entire area is divided into two rooms, one for veg and one for flower, the big fan is blowing in on the flower room, and the clones are in the veg room so they can't get hit, just get fresh air (things are just getting started in there, as we have only been moved for five days!), I do have an A/C in there, split so half the cool air blows into the veg room, and half the cool air into the flower room, and am going to complete the exhaust tomorrow (out of the top of the room so the hot air leaves), again split between both rooms so neither get too hot. I was getting the reflective coverings up this evening when I ran out of thumb tacks and duck tape, had to stop set up completely until tomorrow. But thats ok, because while I am getting that I can also get the two way splitter sockets for the CFL lights that I want/need to add to the veg room (in the absence of a MH that I am hoping desperately someone, anyone, will just give to me soon), once the clones and seedlings get to be like 3 weeks old (or younger) I am going to have to add about 20 CFL lights or get a MH somehow (leaning more towards forking out the money I don't have to get a MH), it would be nice if I could also get another 250w HPS to add to the flowering room for the smaller flowering plants. These rooms are 12' by 12', I need more lights! I will probably get the O.K. from the landlord to have an electrician come out and add whatever I need for more juice in there, just more money I don't have, and its a job I won't do. I am going to need nutes and a 50 gallon 50/50 mixer with a feeder tipped hose for watering/feeding, more soil, its looking like about $1500 before everything will be completely where I want/need it for good growing.... damn, how do you guys afford all that shit, I'm broke after I pay the bills. Its going to take a while to accumulate all this stuff and get it all set up... anyone want to give me a Metal Halide?
 

honkeytown

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I own a remodeling company....so if you have any specific questions feel free to ask me.....first thing you need to do is go to your box and see if it is full or if you have room on the panel to add another breaker:blsmoke:
 

theloadeddragon

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already been there, and yes there is... never done electrical work before... though I am a very quick and easy learner with attention to detail... I am sure that if you could walk me through it, I could do it...
 

honkeytown

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yeah bro I can walk you through it.....I can even take pics of my box and label shit for you to see what you are looking at. it's really cake to do. how far is your box from your grow room? and do you have attic space to run your wires in?
 

theloadeddragon

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well its about 100 ft strait from grow rooms to box, it looks like there is room for 4-6 breakers in the box, there is an attic in the garage (grow rooms) but I am not sure if it goes throughout the rest of the house. Start with the materials I will need, and I will see what I can do and how fast I can get them, you can even write step by step installation if your up for it (that would be wonderful!), and I could follow from there, pics always help, and I could throw in some pics of my box etc to if need be. I would like to have one outlet on one side of the garage, and another on the opposite side (one for each grow room). I would be running hopefully: 1 1000w HPS, 1 600w or 250w HPS and two fans on one side... and 1 or 2 1000w HIDs (hopefully), two double CFL lamps, two double four foot long fluorecents, and two fans on the other side, with the original plug being used for the A/C.
 

theloadeddragon

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ok, Forbidden Treasure is a male, and I am moving him inside today, so he will kind of be a decorative house plant that will produce pollen so that I can pollinate.... uh, not sure which one yet. I am starting to think that Skunk is a male too, but I will have to check again... well thats all good and all, I wanted to rework the blue bin situation there, and its a better spot for Cinderella... the Forbidden Treasure was the first to sprout, but had the slowest growth. Will update again later with more specifics, and anything that changes... indoor temperature is working out very well!
 

honkeytown

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I need to know about the attic space thing man...otherwise you will need to cut drywall and do your new homerun or run conduit...lemme know and take some pics of your box...it would be better for me to label your box for you....first off go get yourself 250' of 12/2 romex and a 25 amp breaker...you will also need a few cable clamps.....read this article and refer any questions this way. take a picture of your box and the conduit that runs from the top...show me where the conduit goes into your house...is it right into the wall or up the wall and into an attic space? also pm me and lemme know if you have aim...it's easier to explain in real time:mrgreen:

Installing A New Circuit Breaker In An Electrical Panel
 

theloadeddragon

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The three ladies outside are all still in veg stage, though they are starting to preflower like crazy :), I think about a week, week and a half, they will start flowering, :), about 7-8 more inches of growth, 10-20 more solid budsites, 8) Need to fix indoor set up quick, :l, gotta work, was really looking forward to FT nugs... :(, I think it will all work out though... ;) .....
 

theloadeddragon

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according to the link in my journal, flowering will start Sept 1st or within five days of there, that is three weeks + more growth! :) the harvest in November... may need to get a heater... happy with that though!
 

greenbehemoth

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Hi loaded, things are looking great. Excellent job you're doing mate, congrats. I see what you mean about the similarity between your Cinderella and my topped Cinammon. They are very alike indeed LOL. I'm guessing your Cinderella must be getting pretty big now. It'll be interesting to see how the yields compare. Well done again on your grow - very impressive ;)
 

theloadeddragon

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ok, 4 sprouts of 18 seeds so far. None of the cuttings for clones have outright died. There were some yellow leaves on the bottom of a few, so I trimmed them, plus a little extra off. I am pretty sure I have about two or three more days before I can accurately determine if they are going to root well or not. Outdoor is going very well (though feeding and water schedules have become a constant subject on my mind), I found some white flies indoors in the flower and veg rooms, and a praying mantis too, I squashed a few of the white flies, and am hoping the mantis will help me take care of the rest of them, as well as any other pests the decide they want to have a go, I will be giving both rooms a full deep cleaning once they are both completely set up. I still need to finish the indoor set up too, which is becoming a little confusing, because I have mixed materials and short supply. I really need to do the electrical so that both the veg and flower rooms get adequate supplies of electricity safely. I am running low on nutes now, and can really only invest like 30-40 bucks until after first harvest. So much time and work, and I am afraid that, with all of the other things that I have to be responsible for, I am slipping more and more behind in doing a good job with everything that I have to do! stretched and stressed to the max, I barely even have time to smoke anymore...
 

honkeytown

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ok, 4 sprouts of 18 seeds so far. None of the cuttings for clones have outright died. There were some yellow leaves on the bottom of a few, so I trimmed them, plus a little extra off. I am pretty sure I have about two or three more days before I can accurately determine if they are going to root well or not. Outdoor is going very well (though feeding and water schedules have become a constant subject on my mind), I found some white flies indoors in the flower and veg rooms, and a praying mantis too, I squashed a few of the white flies, and am hoping the mantis will help me take care of the rest of them, as well as any other pests the decide they want to have a go, I will be giving both rooms a full deep cleaning once they are both completely set up. I still need to finish the indoor set up too, which is becoming a little confusing, because I have mixed materials and short supply. I really need to do the electrical so that both the veg and flower rooms get adequate supplies of electricity safely. I am running low on nutes now, and can really only invest like 30-40 bucks until after first harvest. So much time and work, and I am afraid that, with all of the other things that I have to be responsible for, I am slipping more and more behind in doing a good job with everything that I have to do! stretched and stressed to the max, I barely even have time to smoke anymore...
I hear ya...its a lot of work bro....btw...My mantis died...no food for him...and he doesnt eat spider mites so....best way to kill the flies is to cover the tops of your soil with sand....worked 100 percent for me...and whenever you are ready for that electrical you lemme know. and the clones....are you keeping the soil like wet wet wet? I know I dont do it that way but....I would just make sure you keep that soil soaked and keep them leaves misted...they should pull through for you :mrgreen:
 

theloadeddragon

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electrical may be a couple of weeks off, we are completely broke. Yeah, the soil stays pretty well soaked, and they are being misted twice a day, I have a blue bin that has water in the bottom about an inch deep, that the clones sit in, and then I take them out for about three hours so they can drain some, and get some air back in the medium. I would rather just clean the room, kill all the flies I can find, and then maybe cover the tops of the pots with something (not sure what yet though). Yeah, I am trying to get a landscaping business started, while pursuing firefighting, and have no job right now, so I do what ever I can to pay bills! Two kids too... and just moved etc. etc.
 

honkeytown

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electrical may be a couple of weeks off, we are completely broke. Yeah, the soil stays pretty well soaked, and they are being misted twice a day, I have a blue bin that has water in the bottom about an inch deep, that the clones sit in, and then I take them out for about three hours so they can drain some, and get some air back in the medium. I would rather just clean the room, kill all the flies I can find, and then maybe cover the tops of the pots with something (not sure what yet though). Yeah, I am trying to get a landscaping business started, while pursuing firefighting, and have no job right now, so I do what ever I can to pay bills! Two kids too... and just moved etc. etc.
props on the landscaping and firefighting. I was gonna be a firefighter after college but opened up my business and it just took off...so...dreams be dreams. as far as the clones go...what temps do you have them at....I fint that taking care of the leaves is whats important in my cloning...the roots will come if you make the leaves happy. as far as the electrical goes just leme know. i am around. hope the bills fall into place for you man. I would say you deserve it after the last few weeks:mrgreen:
 

theloadeddragon

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yeah, thats what I am hoping, that I can open my business and it will take off. I am a very lucky person in that I have my wife children and good friends, so I am not going it alone. Hopefully the business will get going, and I can get it self operating and sustaining in two years, and hopefully I can get started on the gen ed requirements at the same time, and wrap up real quick and get my A.A. and Fire Fighter 1 in 2 1/2 years. Then I will start fire fighting and making good money at it, while owning the business, and going to school to become a teacher... my retirement career. Lol, while raising my children, having a social life, doing my gardening, and having my side projects, and getting officially married....
 

theloadeddragon

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Anyways, the outdoors were droopy until I watered, and the wind is particularly angry today... so yay, more work outside, indoor still to finish setting up, really need to do that soon, and I feel like shit... need to rest etc. not going to work today... gotta go to the big city somewhere and get some groceries. I think when I am finish with the grow, I will write a summarization of the grow that will be a lot more organized and detailed, with more info on the whole "ordeal" these plants have gone through... I think the soil for the clones is too cool, and the air around the foliage is too hot, and I should probably give them more light than I am, I bet if I fix those things, they will perk right up... when I get the time to, like in the next hour, I will do more with the indoor set up until I can buy more supplies for it...
 
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