Is that tacoing? sf1000d non-dimmable light

I'm doing my first grow. here is my 2-week-old auto flower plant starting to have edges curling up a bit? or am I too cautious because it's my first plant? I just moved the light down closer to the plant almost to 18inches as described in the sf1000d(not dimmable always on 100%) LED product for the vegetative stage. I'm growing in a soil 5-gallon fabric pot inside a 2''x2''x4'' tent. After a few days, I saw the edges doing that curl in photos, but looks like it's pretty early. Also, it looks like the leaves are a bit yellowish is that light stress too? I moved the light back up to almost 21 inches in the range from 24'' to 18'' to test if it's gonna get worse or not. or If someone has experience with that grow light please give some advice.
 

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Dboybudz

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Over watering or if it's to wet will cause. Doesn't look burned from light I see a little droop you pointed to looks little wet. If can't dim light might have to move higher when flowering extra sensitive. But looks ok so far
 
@Dboybudz @Hollatchaboy I'm following this schedule of watering is that too much?

Also, I fed the whole pot a gallon of water before germinating in it and I feel it still has some water retention inside it as it's a bit heavy! I keep making holes all around to let it breathe but still, the pot is heavy. I have moisture control it's just wet at the bottom of the pot otherwise it's normal. should I stop watering for a while?
 

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Hollatchaboy

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I'm doing my first grow. here is my 2-week-old auto flower plant starting to have edges curling up a bit? or am I too cautious because it's my first plant? I just moved the light down closer to the plant almost to 18inches as described in the sf1000d(not dimmable always on 100%) LED product for the vegetative stage. I'm growing in a soil 5-gallon fabric pot inside a 2''x2''x4'' tent. After a few days, I saw the edges doing that curl in photos, but looks like it's pretty early. Also, it looks like the leaves are a bit yellowish is that light stress too? I moved the light back up to almost 21 inches in the range from 24'' to 18'' to test if it's gonna get worse or not. or If someone has experience with that grow light please give some advice.
I don't see taco'd leaves. They'll look more like this....
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I have an sf1000d. I keep it 18-20" from top of plants. Yours does look a lil pale. Maybe need a lil more nutrition. When watering soil, without bottled nutes, and for a plant the size of yours, 5% water to soil volume is all you need. When it gets bigger and has an established root system, up it to 10%. After you water it, pick up the container, take a mental note of the weight, wait a few days, pick up the container again. If it's considerably lighter, water in again. Plants in soil don't need to be constantly saturated, just most. You'll be surprised at how light the container gets, before it needs water again.
 
I don't see taco'd leaves. They'll look more like this....
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I have an sf1000d. I keep it 18-20" from top of plants. Yours does look a lil pale. Maybe need a lil more nutrition. When watering soil, without bottled nutes, and for a plant the size of yours, 5% water to soil volume is all you need. When it gets bigger and has an established root system, up it to 10%. After you water it, pick up the container, take a mental note of the weight, wait a few days, pick up the container again. If it's considerably lighter, water in again. Plants in soil don't need to be constantly saturated, just most. You'll be surprised at how light the container gets, before it needs water again.
I started to add nutrients this week after week one but just 1/4th(as advised by FastBuds24 for the whole week) of nutrients mentioned on the advanced nutrients micro, grow and bloom ph perfect collection. Should I boost nutrients next week to 1/2 or even more?
since the beginning I gave it 0.8ml of micro, 0.8ml of micro, 0.8ml of micro and 1.5ml of calmag.
 

Hollatchaboy

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First off, if you're using a potting soil with nutrition, you shouldn't need to add nutes, for about a month.
It's possible she could be starting to lock out a bit.
Second, if you're going to use bottled nutes, only water in enough so you get about 25% runoff, each watering.
 
I'm using ligh-mix for the top half of the pot and potting soil for the last half so it can reach it when it's stronger.
 

big bud man 413

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I've had tacoing and twisted leaves before with my autos that I start and finish in 3 gallon pots when I watered to much of the pot instead of just around the little seedling. So it could be over watering and the roots not getting enough oxygen.
 

Hollatchaboy

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I'm using ligh-mix for the top half of the pot and potting soil for the last half so it can reach it when it's stronger.
Still, that lil plant needs just a lil nutrition. That's a big container of soil, for that size plant. Not to mention, just adding base nutes, and calmag, is throwing off ratios. You need complete nutrition, when you add. What nute line are you using?
 

Hollatchaboy

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I've had tacoing and twisted leaves before with my autos that I start and finish in 3 gallon pots when I watered to much of the pot instead of just around the little seedling. So it could be over watering and the roots not getting enough oxygen.
It's possible. If overwatered, could be dropping the ph. That could be locking out some nutes also.
 

Delps8

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No. That's a new leaf that isn't fully formed.

Re. leaf color - early veg is a hard time to diagnose issues. The light color of the leaves could be because it's a young plant or perhaps because it needs more N. I'm a hydro grower + I don't get many deficiencies so take that with a grain of salt.

The recommendations from the manufacturer are here:

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and this is their PPFD map:

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Their recommendations look pretty good. A $32 Uni-T light meter will "remove all doubt". Lacking that, I'd go with the manufacturer's recommendation.
 
Still, that lil plant needs just a lil nutrition. That's a big container of soil, for that size plant. Not to mention, just adding base nutes, and calmag, is throwing off ratios. You need complete nutrition, when you add. What nute line are you using?
I'm using advanced nutrients ph perfect line(micro-grow-bloom) with 1/4th of the dosage on the official website.
 

m1100

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I don't see taco'd leaves. They'll look more like this....
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I have an sf1000d. I keep it 18-20" from top of plants. Yours does look a lil pale. Maybe need a lil more nutrition. When watering soil, without bottled nutes, and for a plant the size of yours, 5% water to soil volume is all you need. When it gets bigger and has an established root system, up it to 10%. After you water it, pick up the container, take a mental note of the weight, wait a few days, pick up the container again. If it's considerably lighter, water in again. Plants in soil don't need to be constantly saturated, just most. You'll be surprised at how light the container gets, before it needs water again.
thats if youre using soil, remember in soilless media like coco or turf constant moisture is needed to keep microbiology alife
bless
 

m1100

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you are just overwatering up the frequency of watering, keep the dose of nutrients , lower the total ml of water used , in that stage i would water 70 ml every day arround the base of the stem , doing ever bigger circumferences to keep them searching that humidity, next week up the feeding at 120ml and so on

when they get to that veg stage when they literaly explode in growth the watering frequency should be lowered and the total water rised
then in flower they might be able to dink up to 4 liters a day, but thats in 5 gal, 3 gal and in flower they drink like 2.5 l every 2- 3 days
oh and sorry for mixing imperial units with metrical, im from eu and to keep it simple 3 gallons pot is 11 liters
when they say you should water 20 percent of total soil volume, for 11 liters thats 2.2 liters, every 2-3 days that value is for flowering plants in perfect temps and rh (28c 60rh)
oh and i strongly believe that we need 28c when growing with leds for two reasons; one is leaf temps, another is soil and root temperature

bless
 
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m1100

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TEMPERATURE FLUCTUATIONS
Cannabis plants are sensitive to temperature changes, and fluctuations in their grow environment can contribute to red or purple stem coloration. Cooler temperatures, especially during the night, can trigger the production of anthocyanins, leading to the appearance of reddish or purplish hues on the stems.
LIGHTING
Lighting plays a critical role in cannabis plant health and can impact stem coloration. Not necessarily inadequate or excessive light but exposure to high-intensity lighting can lead to red or purple stems.
Choose the right light spectrum: Cannabis plants require different light spectrums during the vegetative and flowering stages. Use blue-spectrum lights for the vegetative stage and red-spectrum lights for the flowering stage.
Adjust light intensity: Ensure the light intensity is suitable for your cannabis plants. High-intensity lights like HPS or LED should be positioned farther away from the plants, while lower-intensity lights like CFLs can be placed closer.
Maintain a proper light schedule: Provide cannabis plants with an appropriate light schedule, typically 18 hours of light and 6 hours of darkness during the vegetative stage, and 12 hours of light and 12 hours of darkness during the flowering stage.
4. NUTRIENT DEFICIENCIES AND IMBALANCES
PHOSPHORUS DEFICIENCY
Phosphorus is essential for healthy root development, energy production, and flowering in cannabis plants. A phosphorus deficiency can result in red or purple stems, accompanied by symptoms like darkening and curling of the leaves, reduced flowering, and slow growth. To address phosphorus deficiency, ensure your plants receive an appropriate nutrient solution containing adequate phosphorus levels. Additionally, maintaining a proper pH range in the growing medium (6.0-7.0 for soil and 5.5-6.5 for hydroponic systems) can help improve phosphorus uptake.
MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY
Magnesium plays a vital role in photosynthesis, energy production, and overall plant health. A magnesium deficiency can cause red or purple stems, as well as other symptoms such as interveinal chlorosis (yellowing between leaf veins) and leaf curling.
to correct a magnesium deficiency, supplement your plants with a magnesium-containing nutrient solution or use Epsom salts. Monitoring and maintaining the correct pH range for your growing medium can also help improve magnesium uptake.
POTASSIUM DEFICIENCY
Potassium is essential for various plant processes, including nutrient transportation, water regulation, and overall growth. A potassium deficiency can lead to red or purple stems, along with other symptoms such as leaf curling, necrosis (dead tissue), and poor bud development. To address potassium deficiency, use a nutrient solution containing sufficient potassium levels and maintain the appropriate pH range for your growing medium.
CALCIUM DEFICIENCY
Calcium is critical for cell wall development and overall plant structure. A calcium deficiency can cause red or purple stems, as well as other symptoms like leaf curling, stunted growth, and blossom end rot in fruits. To correct calcium deficiency, provide your plants with a calcium-rich nutrient solution and maintain the appropriate pH range for your grow
OTHER NUTRIENT DEFICIENCIES AND IMBALANCES
Other nutrient deficiencies or imbalances can also contribute to red or purple stems in cannabis plants. For example, a deficiency in nitrogen, sulfur, or zinc can lead to stem discoloration, along with various other symptoms. To ensure your plants receive all the necessary nutrients, use a balanced nutrient solution specifically designed for cannabis plants and monitor the pH levels of your growing medium to promote optimal nutrient uptake.
5. SIGNS OF PESTS AND DISEASES
PEST INFESTATIONS
Pest infestations can stress cannabis plants, leading to red or purple stems. Common pests affecting cannabis plants include spider mites, aphids, thrips, and whiteflies. These pests can damage plant tissues, interfere with nutrient uptake, and introduce diseases. To manage pest infestations, implement Integrated Pest Management (IPM) strategies such as:
Regularly inspect your plants for signs of pests.
Use physical barriers like insect netting or sticky traps.
Introduce beneficial insects like ladybugs or lacewings to control pest populations.
Apply organic pesticides like neem oil, insecticidal soap, or diatomaceous earth when necessary.
BACTERIAL DISEASES
Bacterial diseases can also lead to red or purple stems, in addition to symptoms like leaf spots, wilting, and cankers. Common bacterial diseases affecting cannabis plants include bacterial blight, bacterial leaf spot, and bacterial canker. To prevent and manage bacterial diseases, follow these tips:Keep your grow space clean and sanitized to minimize the risk of bacterial infections.
Avoid overwatering, which can create favorable conditions for bacterial growth.
Regularly inspect your plants for signs of bacterial diseases.
Remove and dispose of infected plant materials to prevent the spread of disease.
Apply bactericides or copper-based products when necessary, but be cautious as they can be harmful to beneficial microbes.
6. WHEN TO WORRY ABOUT RED AND PURPLE STEMS
While red or purple stems can sometimes be a natural and harmless trait of cannabis plants, they can also indicate problems such as environmental stress, nutrient deficiencies, or pest and disease infestations. It's essential to closely observe your plants and look for additional symptoms or signs of distress. Worry about red or purple stems if:
They are accompanied by other symptoms such as leaf discoloration, curling, or necrosis.
You have identified and confirmed a nutrient deficiency or imbalance.
There are signs of pest infestations or diseases.
Environmental conditions are outside the optimal range for your cannabis plants.
In these cases, take appropriate corrective actions to address the underlying issues and ensure the health and well-being of your cannabis plants.
7. EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS FOR RED AND PURPLE STEMS
MONITOR AND ADJUST ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS
Ensure that your grow environment has appropriate temperature, humidity, and lighting conditions. Regularly monitor these factors and make adjustments as needed to create an optimal environment for your cannabis plants.
USE A BALANCED NUTRIENT SOLUTION
Provide your plants with a balanced nutrient solution specifically designed for cannabis plants to prevent nutrient deficiencies and imbalances. Adjust the nutrient solution according to your plants' growth stage and specific needs.
MONITOR PH LEVELS
Maintain the appropriate pH range for your growing medium to promote optimal nutrient uptake and prevent nutrient deficiencies. Regularly test the pH of your nutrient solution and growing medium, and make adjustments as needed.
PRACTICE INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT (IPM)
Implement IPM strategies to prevent and control pest infestations and diseases. Regularly inspect your plants, use physical barriers and beneficial insects, and apply organic pesticides or fungicides when necessary.
MAINTAIN A CLEAN GROW SPACE
Keep your grow space clean and sanitized to minimize the risk of pests and diseases. Dispose of plant debris and waste promptly, sanitize tools and equipment, and maintain proper air circulation to discourage the growth of harmful microorganisms.
 

m1100

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8. STRENGTHENING YOUR PLANTS' IMMUNE SYSTEM
A strong immune system can help your cannabis plants better resist pests and diseases, and reduce the likelihood of red or purple stems caused by these factors. Here are some tips to strengthen your plants' immune system:
BOOST BENEFICIAL MICROORGANISMS
The presence of beneficial microorganisms in your growing medium can help improve nutrient uptake, promote root health, and protect your plants against pathogens. You can introduce beneficial microorganisms by adding products like mycorrhizal fungi or compost tea to your nutrient solution or growing medium.
USE SILICON SUPPLEMENTS
Silicon is a beneficial element that can improve your plants' resistance to pests, diseases, and environmental stress. Silicon strengthens cell walls, making it more difficult for pests and pathogens to penetrate plant tissues. Additionally, it can help improve nutrient uptake and overall plant health. To provide your plants with silicon, you can use silicon-based supplements or products like diatomaceous earth.
PROVIDE OPTIMAL LIGHTING
Proper lighting is essential for photosynthesis, growth, and overall plant health. Ensure that your plants receive adequate light intensity and an appropriate light spectrum for their growth stage. Use high-quality grow lights and adjust their distance from your plants to prevent light stress or burning.
ENHANCE AIR CIRCULATION
Good air circulation can help prevent the accumulation of excess humidity, which can lead to the growth of harmful microorganisms. Use fans to create gentle air movement around your plants, and ensure that all plant surfaces receive airflow. This can also help strengthen your plants' stems and improve their resistance to pests and diseases.

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9. RECOGNIZING AND ADDRESSING GENETIC FACTORS
In some cases, red or purple stems can be attributed to genetic factors. Certain cannabis strains or phenotypes may naturally exhibit red or purple stems due to the presence of anthocyanins or other pigments. If you suspect that the red or purple stems on your cannabis plants are due to genetics, it's essential to:
RESEARCH YOUR STRAIN
Gather information about the specific strain you are growing, including its known traits, growth patterns, and potential for displaying red or purple stems.

Red and purple cannabis stems: Research your strain


Red stems vs green stems on cannabis plants.


This can help you determine whether the stem coloration is a natural characteristic of the strain or if it's caused by an underlying issue.
OBSERVE PLANT GROWTH AND HEALTH
Monitor your plants closely throughout their growth cycle, paying particular attention to their overall health and development. If your plants exhibit normal growth patterns and show no signs of distress, it's likely that the red or purple stems are a genetic trait.
CONSULT EXPERIENCED GROWERS
Seek advice from experienced growers who have cultivated the same strain or similar strains. They can provide valuable insights about the natural characteristics of the strain and help you determine whether the red or purple stems are a cause for concern.
In summary, it's essential to monitor your cannabis plants closely and take note of any changes in stem coloration. Red or purple stems can be a natural and harmless trait, but they can also indicate potential problems such as environmental stress, nutrient deficiencies, or pest and disease infestations. By maintaining optimal grow conditions, providing a balanced nutrient solution, implementing IPM strategies, and strengthening your plants' immune system, you can ensure the health and success of your cannabis plants. Remember to research your strain, observe plant growth and health, and consult experienced growers if you suspect that the red or purple stems on your plants are due to genetic factors. With proper care and attention, you can effectively manage red or purple stems and enjoy a successful cannabis cultivation journey.
10. CONCLUSION
Red and purple stems in cannabis plants can be attributed to various factors, including genetics, plant maturity, environmental conditions, nutrient deficiencies, and pests or diseases. In many cases, red or purple stems are not a cause for concern, but it's essential to monitor your plants closely and take corrective actions if necessary. By maintaining optimal grow conditions, providing a balanced nutrient solution, and implementing IPM strategies, you can ensure the health and success of your cannabis plants.
 

Hollatchaboy

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thats if youre using soil, remember in soilless media like coco or turf constant moisture is needed to keep microbiology alife
bless
I don't have microbiology in my coco. I run my nutrient solution sterile. Yes coco needs more watering, because it doesn't hold moisture like peat, which is commonly the base for potting soil.
 
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