Is the World Flat? The Flatlander's theory..

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Unclebaldrick

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Indacouch said:
. For you reddong1981 ....pedophile Russian spy you've been had and now your mad
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What a great film for an utter atrocity. I fantasized about keeping Lea Thompson safe from all those Cubans - hunkered down with a Springfield and some purloined RPGs, and maybe some of those gourmet TV dinners. "Oh yeah Lea, I'll keep you safe. Are there any more Salisbury steak left or do I need to singlehandedly blow up another column of BMPs?"
 
Padawanbater2

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reddan1981 said:
Please post your number 1 proof for the earth being round (or oblate spheroid).
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The Moon - why would the shadow of the Earth appear as round during multiple historical lunar eclipses? Keep in mind this has occurred multiple times throughout recorded history meaning multiple angles of the Earth still appear round no matter which angle it is viewed from

Ships - why do ships disappear before horizons before their masts do?



Varying Star Constellations - why can you see some constellations from one part of the Earth, but not another?





This only works if the Earth is round

Shadows and Sticks - If you stick a stick in the ground, it will produce a shadow. The shadow moves as time passes. If the world had been flat, then two sticks in different locations would produce the same shadow:



But they don’t. This is because the earth is round, and not flat:



Eratosthenes (276-194 BCE) used this principle to calculate the circumference of the Earth

Plane Rides: No edges

Other planets are round upon observation

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reddan1981

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Padawanbater2 said:
The Moon - why would the shadow of the Earth appear as round during multiple historical lunar eclipses? Keep in mind this has occurred multiple times throughout recorded history meaning multiple angles of the Earth still appear round no matter which angle it is viewed from

Ships - why do ships disappear before horizons before their masts do?



Varying Star Constellations - why can you see some constellations from one part of the Earth, but not another?





This only works if the Earth is round

Shadows and Sticks - If you stick a stick in the ground, it will produce a shadow. The shadow moves as time passes. If the world had been flat, then two sticks in different locations would produce the same shadow:



But they don’t. This is because the earth is round, and not flat:



Eratosthenes (276-194 BCE) used this principle to calculate the circumference of the Earth

Plane Rides: No edges

Other planets are round upon observation

Timezones
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Everyone of these have been explained already in this thread.
 
reddan1981

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reddan1981 said:
Hello Eddie, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. I would like to make you aware of an inconsistency in the whole “earth casting a shadow on the moon” assumption.
1.I am assuming you are referring to lunar eclipse?, there are records of lunar eclipses happening while both the Sun and Moon are visible in the sky. The Greenwich Royal Observatory recorded that “during the lunar eclipses of July 17th, 1590, November 3rd, 1648, June 16th, 1666, and May 26th, 1668 the moon rose eclipsed whilst the sun was still above the horizon.” McCulluch’sGeography recorded that “on September20th, 1717 and April 20th, 1837 the moonappeared to rise eclipsed before the sun had set.”
The sun and moon have been recorded as being seen in the sky at the same time on
numerous occasions here is a few;
Paris, on the 19th of July, 1750, when the moon appeared visibly eclipsed, while the sun was distinctly to be "seen above the horizon."
On the 20th of April, 1837, the moon appeared to rise eclipsed before the sun had set.
The same phenomenon was observed on the 20th of September, 1717.
In the lunar eclipses of July 17th, 1590; November 3rd, 1648; June 16th, 1666; and May 26th, 1668; the moon rose eclipsed whilst the sun was still apparently above the horizon. Those horizontal eclipses were noticed as early as the time of Pliny.
On the 17th of January, 1870, a similar phenomenon occurred; .and again in July of the same year.
"EXTRAORDINARY PHENOMENA ATTENDING THE ECLIPSE.--On Saturday evening,
February 27th, 1858, at Brussels, the eclipse was seen by several English philosophers who happened to be present. It was attended by a very remarkable appearance, which Dr. Forster said was wholly inexplicable on any laws of natural philosophy with which he was acquainted. The moment before contact a small dusky spot appeared on the moon's surface, and during the whole of the eclipse, a reddish-brown fringe, or penumbra, projected above the shadow of the earth. Another thing still more remarkable was the apparent irregularity of the edge of the shadow. Three persons, one of them an astronomer, were witnesses of these
curious phenomena, which no law of refraction can in any way explain."
"LUNAR ECLIPSE OF FEBRUARY 6TH, 1860.--The only remarkable feature in this
eclipse was the visibility--it might almost be termed the brilliancy of Aristarchus. Kepler, and other spots, were comparatively lost, or at most, barely discernible, as soon as they became enveloped in the shadow; but not so Aristarchus, which evidently shone either
by intrinsic or retained illumination."
The only explanation which has been given of this phenomenon is the refraction caused by the earth's atmosphere. This, at first sight, is a plausible and fairly satisfactory solution, but on carefully examining the subject, it is found to be inadequate and those who have recourse to it cannot be aware that the refraction of an object and that of a shadow are in opposite directions.
An object by refraction is bent upwards; but the shadow of any object is bent
downwards, thus proving that if refraction operated at all, it would do so by elevating the moon above its true position, and throwing the earth's shadow downwards, or directly away from the moon's surface. Hence it is clear that a lunar eclipse by a shadow of the earth is an impossibility.
Also to hold to the premise of Earth casting shadow, one must also hold to the assumption that the moons light comes from reflected sunlight. This also has inconsistency. According to laws of thermodynamics you would expect to find a transferral of heat, however moonlight
has no warming properties, contrary to the theory the opposite is observed. A reflector is a plane or concave surface, which gives off or returns what it receives:--
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Ships supposedly sailing over the edge reappear when viewed with a telescope.
(Laws of perspective.)

Varying Star Constellations.
It is an ordinary effect of perspective for an object to appear lower and lower as the observer goes farther and farther away from it. Ergo, when I stand outside and look into the skies, the star constellations I do not see are simply invisible past the vanishing point, beyond my perspective. When I travel south I am moving to a new location, changing my perspective, rising up a completely different set stars.

Shadows and Sticks.
You know his experiments assumes the sun to be at great distances, but will also have the same result if assuming a flat earth and local sun. In fact research this man and you will find his tests laughable.

Other planets are round.
You are standing on a pool table, looking at the pool balls. Is the table a ball also?
 
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