Is There Anything That Everybody Can Agree On?

AzGrOw-N-sMoKe

New Member
bahhh..mondern medicen...donsen't cure anything just eases the pain...or prolongs the life....whats needs to happen is the strong survive an the weak bleed.....seriously im tired of seeing people scurry about there live's like insects....slumping around talking of how they hate they jobs lives etc...these people need a gun to the face to show them that there's more to life then their negativity...
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
bahhh..mondern medicen...donsen't cure anything just eases the pain...or prolongs the life....whats needs to happen is the strong survive an the weak bleed.....seriously im tired of seeing people scurry about there live's like insects....slumping around talking of how they hate they jobs lives etc...these people need a gun to the face to show them that there's more to life then their negativity...

or a hit of LSD. :peace::joint::joint:
 

preoQpydDlusion

Well-Known Member
Preo', you don't accept that there are weak people?
only in relativity. weakness as a characteristic relies on a scale and there certainly isnt a master scale that can ultimately judge a persons strength or worth, so a person can be physically weak, or spiritually weak, but a weak person does not exist.

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the ppl that say "nobody has the right to judge another" or "nobody has the right to control anothers life" are almost always hypocrites. i notice when ppl make a big point to spell something out like that they dont actually live how they are speaking. its like theyre sitting back and admiring it or something. hypocritical ppl are as socially useful as the mentally retarded. they follow circular reasoning, fueling counterproductive mindsets that serve no purpose but to slow the rate of evolution.

no .....look i know there is nothing wrong with death....EVERYONE KNOWS THIS....I SAID THAT MURDER IS WRONG NOT DEATH.how is that person any worse of?yea hes dead but what if he wanted to live?what if he has kids?a wife?a real want to be alive no one has the right to take that life away and the world is not better because of it....and yea that is a real definition of muder just because wikipedia is the closest thing to me doesnt mean its a wrong definition...you explain it better.MURDER:......go ahead.
... i promise i am not stupid. u are the only person i have been arguing with in this thread for a little while now- i would not mistakenly put words in ur mouth. i did not accuse u of saying there is something morally wrong with dying.

mur·der
/ˈmɜr
dər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[mur-der] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1.Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law.


like i said before, "murder" is a legal term. "murder" is bad by definition because it is part of a system that views it as bad. i have been making a point not to use the term "murder".

kill1
/kɪl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kil] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –verb (used with object) 1.to deprive of life in any manner; cause the death of; slay.

i have been using the term "kill".

now, if:
1: death is not bad
and
2: kill=cause the death of
then
3: killing is not bad.

what if he wanted to live? it doesnt matter. hes dead, his feelings arent hurt. what about the family left behind? not relevant. im not talking about the aftereffects. im talking about killing, not what happens when ppl find out about the killing.

but fuck, lets do this anyway. how bout i just restate what i posted a few pages back. what about the family? are u saying they would be sad? how do u kno? it might be a common result in society today but it is not an automatic result. they dont have to be sad. hell, they might end up happier after hes gone u cant kno.

heymo, it doesnt get more simple than that.
how bout u prove to me how it is evil.
how bout u prove the existence of evilness.
how bout u prove the existence of true choice.

nothing fucking matters man.
is that a negative statement? really, if u dont any others, answer me that one.

(hey Skunkush, do u still deny my having BPD? really, the dualistic tendencies im showing here are staring me in the face)
 

stickyhits

Well-Known Member
death is a part of everyones destiny thats that and those involved maybe it was there destiny maybe they were created for this reason only I believe everything has already been written were just going thru it now with a few crossroads for choices and other parts were no matter what we chose one thing is destine to happen sometimes when im stoned I feel like my soul is trapped in the physical form so death will set me free but im not saying i wanna die anytime soon I at least wanna cleanse my soul cause i still do wrong like sex and what not but i have to follow my heart for i feel life is about being good and unselfish its just not always the easiest with temptation thrown in your face
 

preoQpydDlusion

Well-Known Member
yeah i believe in fate too man. my favorite analogy is this is all just a huge set of domino's falling. no external god because there was no initial creation, the domino's have always been falling. no crossroads, its one never ending track. i dont feel guilt or pride because i kno we are all god at our very core. stop thinking for five minutes and u might feel it.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
death is a part of everyones destiny thats that and those involved maybe it was there destiny maybe they were created for this reason only I believe everything has already been written were just going thru it now with a few crossroads for choices and other parts were no matter what we chose one thing is destine to happen sometimes when im stoned I feel like my soul is trapped in the physical form so death will set me free but im not saying i wanna die anytime soon I at least wanna cleanse my soul cause i still do wrong like sex and what not but i have to follow my heart for i feel life is about being good and unselfish its just not always the easiest with temptation thrown in your face


did i read that correctly? sex is wrong? :hump::confused:
 

heymo85

Well-Known Member
only in relativity. weakness as a characteristic relies on a scale and there certainly isnt a master scale that can ultimately judge a persons strength or worth, so a person can be physically weak, or spiritually weak, but a weak person does not exist.

...

the ppl that say "nobody has the right to judge another" or "nobody has the right to control anothers life" are almost always hypocrites. i notice when ppl make a big point to spell something out like that they dont actually live how they are speaking. its like theyre sitting back and admiring it or something. hypocritical ppl are as socially useful as the mentally retarded. they follow circular reasoning, fueling counterproductive mindsets that serve no purpose but to slow the rate of evolution.



... i promise i am not stupid. u are the only person i have been arguing with in this thread for a little while now- i would not mistakenly put words in ur mouth. i did not accuse u of saying there is something morally wrong with dying.

mur·der
/ˈmɜr
dər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[mur-der] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1.Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law.


like i said before, "murder" is a legal term. "murder" is bad by definition because it is part of a system that views it as bad. i have been making a point not to use the term "murder".

kill1
/kɪl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kil] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –verb (used with object) 1.to deprive of life in any manner; cause the death of; slay.


i have been using the term "kill".

now, if:
1: death is not bad
and
2: kill=cause the death of
then
3: killing is not bad.

what if he wanted to live? it doesnt matter. hes dead, his feelings arent hurt. what about the family left behind? not relevant. im not talking about the aftereffects. im talking about killing, not what happens when ppl find out about the killing.

but fuck, lets do this anyway. how bout i just restate what i posted a few pages back. what about the family? are u saying they would be sad? how do u kno? it might be a common result in society today but it is not an automatic result. they dont have to be sad. hell, they might end up happier after hes gone u cant kno.

heymo, it doesnt get more simple than that.
how bout u prove to me how it is evil.
how bout u prove the existence of evilness.
how bout u prove the existence of true choice.

nothing fucking matters man.
is that a negative statement? really, if u dont any others, answer me that one.

(hey Skunkush, do u still deny my having BPD? really, the dualistic tendencies im showing here are staring me in the face)
your 123 steps are bullshit..no death is not bad..murder is..so therefore murder is bad..what gives anyone the right to decide the fate of another mans life?you prove to me that its not evil?im set in my ways so it can end right now..my whole purpose on this thread wasnt even about you it was..goddamnit i cant remember his name w/e...saying that weeding the weak out was good and it ended up like this....in my mind murder is wrong because that man thats being murdered is no different than the person doing it..you got your opinions and they are just more off track than mine..same as other dude..a normal happy person knows murder is wrong.my proof of true choice?here it is
:peace:
 

heymo85

Well-Known Member
there you go, pushing that hockey on me again. lol. no i didn't see any. i'm sorry. hey mo, good to see ya my friend. :mrgreen:
yea i know but a california team won it!!:)good 2 see ya 2..hey is the chat ever alive anymore or do u still even go
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
murder is not natural selection...whats natural about a bullet going thru someone??OF COURSE THOSE PEOPLE DONT WANT TO DIE..WHY DO YOU THINK THERES TREATMENT??TO TRY AND PRESERVE THEIR LIFE!!!!yes death is death but how you can die withour being murdered...nothing valid
Yet there are those that are so afraid of violence that they invite it.
 

preoQpydDlusion

Well-Known Member
a normal happy person knows murder is wrong.
nobodys normal.
i am the happiest person i kno.

u simply being alive right now is probly killing somebody somewhere. u ever heard of chaos theory? the actions u take dont only effect the immediate vicinity. do u kno how big the universe is? how small it is? how many cells in our bodies do we destroy with every lungful of smoke? how many ppl die producing the luxuries u indulge in every day?

my proof of true choice?here it is
respect:peace:
 

AzGrOw-N-sMoKe

New Member
what i think needs to happen for all this debate to cease....is that as humens we need to drop a couple steps on the food chain.....just think how much different life would be if there were predators out there that humens were there main diet...leave your house to go to work no need to worry about how life sucks or there may be no god more of the concern would rely on the fact that somethins watchin you from the bush's....
 
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