Key points for new growers (working document)

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Auntie Janes Nursery

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Working on a free open document to help new growers get started. Just key basic points that illustrate how the plant works and how to get kind of a quick basis to growing. Looking for any ideas for additions.

Key points new growers



Cannabis has grown outside without human intervention for 1000s of years.

- There are two phases to growing non autoplants. Veg and Flower.



- Veg is basically unlimited in time and is where you grow the base of your plant to how big you want it. You will want to maintain a light cycle of at least 18hrs on a day. Many people use 20hrs on and 4 off. Some go straight 24hrs of light. Pick your poison and remember electricity is a cost.



- The second phase and the one we all love is flower. In flower you want to have at least a 12hr period of complete darkness. (this is where a tent really helps to block out light). Flower is a timed cycle dependent on plant. Some strains will flower in 7-8 weeks, most now a days around 9, and some upwards of 12-16 weeks.



- One thing to keep in mind in Veg is that in flower your plants will double or even triple in height so you want to make sure you do not over veg and outgrow your tent in flower.



-When starting seeds or clones do not use soils with nutrient already in them like miracle grow. These are considered to hot (like a nutrient overdose) and will end up burning your seedling. Miracle grow does have a seed starting soil that works very well.



- Seedlings don’t really need much nutrients until the first set of true leaves (3-5 fingers). Straight water for the most part. Maybe a little kelp additive but the seedling itself has enough nutrients stored in it to thrive. Remember you do not want to overdose it.



-When starting your seedlings I find it best to soak them in room temp water for a few hours to help soften the shell. Then I poke 6 holes around the bottom rim of a solo cup and fill it with my medium. Then I soak the medium with water till it runs out the bottom. Then poke a hole in your medium about a half inch down and drop your seedling in. Then cover with your medium and lightly water directly over the seedling.

-I soak my medium first and then plant my seedling so when I water over my seedling it doesn’t

push it deeper into my medium



-After this just leave it in a warm semi humid area. Once you see it break the soil it will need light. Don’t water until the medium is about 80% dry. You can lift the cup and feel the difference in weight.



-When watering it is better to underwater than overwater. Over watering drowns roots (no oxygen) and will cause root rot.



- When first watering start off watering light. Maybe 50ml. Wait for the medium to dry about 80% before watering again. You want the roots to search for water and fill the pot. Also don’t water directly at the stem. This can cause stem rot and roots won’t search toward the outside walls of the pots



-Lighting needed for seedlings is minimal although you do want to keep the light somewhat close to limit the seedling from getting too lanky. Would be fine with a 26w flouro or even one of those spiral CFL bulbs. Keep the light about 2-4 inches away from the tops of the seedlings.



- To strengthen your seedling stems blow on them lightly or have a light fan blowing wind over the tops.



-Nutrients-



--What do those three numbers mean? The three numbers separated by dashes on the front of the nutrient packaging are the NPK ratios. N for nitrogen, P for phosphorus and K for potassium. These are your three main (Macro) nutrients for the plant. They also consist of micro nutrients such as calcium, iron, magnesium, boron etc…



- In Veg cycle you want to have a higher nitrogen to promote growth and in flower you want to increase phosphorous and potassium and decrease nitrogen to promote flowering and better tasting flowers. That is why you will see the different npk values on Veg and Bloom(flower) nutrients



- There are two kinds of nutrients. Organic and synthetic.



-Organic can be done in two methods. One is a super soil method where you build a base soil with a bunch of organic material that contain certain elements such as bat guano for phosphorous or Kelp for potassium. There are multiple super soil recipes online and some companies sell it pre made.



-The other way to feed Organic is through teas made by using the same organic material you would to build the soil and putting it in a little stocking like a tea bag and running a fish tank airline to aerate the water for about 24 hours. This gets the microbes going and makes a bomb nutient. Just a little extra work and a little more messier. You would then water this tea in. There are other methods of “organic” by top dressing the soil every two weeks. Roots Organic has their “Uprising” line just for this.



- The other form of nutrients are synthetic. These are more chemical based and are much easier to work with. Some great companies that have been around are General Hydroponics, Fox Farms, Advanced Nutrients(if you want to spend extra for the gimmick), House & Garden, and many more. I currently use Megacrop and Maxibloom.



- With synthetics nutrients you will have your base nutrients which is your main nutrient and then you may choose to use additives as well. Most base nutrients are more than enough. Sometimes depending on medium you may need to use extra calcium/magnesium often called calmag. One additive I always use is Silica.



- How often you feed with nutrients depends on what medium you are using. In soil since soil itself will hold on to some of the nutrients you want to alternate between watering with nutes and straight water. A lot of people will do Feed, Water, Water, Feed as a cycle where Feed is the only time nutrients are added.

In coco/soilless or hydroponics you will constantly be feeding since the medium doesn’t hold on to salts as much.



- The next thing in line is PH of the water after adding the nutrients. This only applies to synthetic nutrients. Organic nutrients feed the roots themselves. Synthetic nutrients need to be absorbed by the roots. The plant itself will only absorb nutrients at certain ph levels. The required PH will vary by medium. In soil you are looking for a ph of 6.5 to 7.0 in Coco 5.8 to 6.3 and in Hydro 5.5 to 6.0



- PH is measured by using either a ph meter (can get a good cheap one on ebay for $10) or you can use droplets. General Hydroponics sells ph test kits. I like the droplets because they do not have to be calibrated like the pens and even though not as accurate I fall in the window of ph I need but that is personal preference.



-PH is adjusted using some form of ph up or ph down. Add this stuff very lightly. A few drops at a time. It can adjust ph quickly.



- When adding nutrient remember always less is more. You do not want to over intoxicate your plant.



- Also when adding nutrients and using additives make sure you follow what should be added in what order. Some nutrient can interact with others and cancel them out if not added first. If you are using a three part like General Hydroponics always do Micro first. If you are ever using Silica or Calmag always add those before even micro. The silica being the first of all and best to let it sit for an hour before adding calmag.



- Watering should only done when needed. Remember not to over water.
 

Auntie Janes Nursery

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Watering is a science, subject needs more attention in my opinion. It just gets an honorable cliffnote mention lol.
I totally agree. I want them to understand the imagery of root growth and how it will expand in the medium. I water in circles around my stems and gradually make the circle further away from the stem as it goes. Kind of directing the roots to the walls and not so much the center of the pot. I didn't want to make it to overwhelming though. This is mainly for new growers that are killing seedlings lol. Also for those just getting started and thinking about growing. This way they have an idea of what they are looking for.
 

conor c

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Working on a free open document to help new growers get started. Just key basic points that illustrate how the plant works and how to get kind of a quick basis to growing. Looking for any ideas for additions.

Key points new growers



Cannabis has grown outside without human intervention for 1000s of years.

- There are two phases to growing non autoplants. Veg and Flower.



- Veg is basically unlimited in time and is where you grow the base of your plant to how big you want it. You will want to maintain a light cycle of at least 18hrs on a day. Many people use 20hrs on and 4 off. Some go straight 24hrs of light. Pick your poison and remember electricity is a cost.



- The second phase and the one we all love is flower. In flower you want to have at least a 12hr period of complete darkness. (this is where a tent really helps to block out light). Flower is a timed cycle dependent on plant. Some strains will flower in 7-8 weeks, most now a days around 9, and some upwards of 12-16 weeks.



- One thing to keep in mind in Veg is that in flower your plants will double or even triple in height so you want to make sure you do not over veg and outgrow your tent in flower.



-When starting seeds or clones do not use soils with nutrient already in them like miracle grow. These are considered to hot (like a nutrient overdose) and will end up burning your seedling. Miracle grow does have a seed starting soil that works very well.



- Seedlings don’t really need much nutrients until the first set of true leaves (3-5 fingers). Straight water for the most part. Maybe a little kelp additive but the seedling itself has enough nutrients stored in it to thrive. Remember you do not want to overdose it.



-When starting your seedlings I find it best to soak them in room temp water for a few hours to help soften the shell. Then I poke 6 holes around the bottom rim of a solo cup and fill it with my medium. Then I soak the medium with water till it runs out the bottom. Then poke a hole in your medium about a half inch down and drop your seedling in. Then cover with your medium and lightly water directly over the seedling.

-I soak my medium first and then plant my seedling so when I water over my seedling it doesn’t

push it deeper into my medium



-After this just leave it in a warm semi humid area. Once you see it break the soil it will need light. Don’t water until the medium is about 80% dry. You can lift the cup and feel the difference in weight.



-When watering it is better to underwater than overwater. Over watering drowns roots (no oxygen) and will cause root rot.



- When first watering start off watering light. Maybe 50ml. Wait for the medium to dry about 80% before watering again. You want the roots to search for water and fill the pot. Also don’t water directly at the stem. This can cause stem rot and roots won’t search toward the outside walls of the pots



-Lighting needed for seedlings is minimal although you do want to keep the light somewhat close to limit the seedling from getting too lanky. Would be fine with a 26w flouro or even one of those spiral CFL bulbs. Keep the light about 2-4 inches away from the tops of the seedlings.



- To strengthen your seedling stems blow on them lightly or have a light fan blowing wind over the tops.



-Nutrients-



--What do those three numbers mean? The three numbers separated by dashes on the front of the nutrient packaging are the NPK ratios. N for nitrogen, P for phosphorus and K for potassium. These are your three main (Macro) nutrients for the plant. They also consist of micro nutrients such as calcium, iron, magnesium, boron etc…



- In Veg cycle you want to have a higher nitrogen to promote growth and in flower you want to increase phosphorous and potassium and decrease nitrogen to promote flowering and better tasting flowers. That is why you will see the different npk values on Veg and Bloom(flower) nutrients



- There are two kinds of nutrients. Organic and synthetic.



-Organic can be done in two methods. One is a super soil method where you build a base soil with a bunch of organic material that contain certain elements such as bat guano for phosphorous or Kelp for potassium. There are multiple super soil recipes online and some companies sell it pre made.



-The other way to feed Organic is through teas made by using the same organic material you would to build the soil and putting it in a little stocking like a tea bag and running a fish tank airline to aerate the water for about 24 hours. This gets the microbes going and makes a bomb nutient. Just a little extra work and a little more messier. You would then water this tea in. There are other methods of “organic” by top dressing the soil every two weeks. Roots Organic has their “Uprising” line just for this.



- The other form of nutrients are synthetic. These are more chemical based and are much easier to work with. Some great companies that have been around are General Hydroponics, Fox Farms, Advanced Nutrients(if you want to spend extra for the gimmick), House & Garden, and many more. I currently use Megacrop and Maxibloom.



- With synthetics nutrients you will have your base nutrients which is your main nutrient and then you may choose to use additives as well. Most base nutrients are more than enough. Sometimes depending on medium you may need to use extra calcium/magnesium often called calmag. One additive I always use is Silica.



- How often you feed with nutrients depends on what medium you are using. In soil since soil itself will hold on to some of the nutrients you want to alternate between watering with nutes and straight water. A lot of people will do Feed, Water, Water, Feed as a cycle where Feed is the only time nutrients are added.

In coco/soilless or hydroponics you will constantly be feeding since the medium doesn’t hold on to salts as much.



- The next thing in line is PH of the water after adding the nutrients. This only applies to synthetic nutrients. Organic nutrients feed the roots themselves. Synthetic nutrients need to be absorbed by the roots. The plant itself will only absorb nutrients at certain ph levels. The required PH will vary by medium. In soil you are looking for a ph of 6.5 to 7.0 in Coco 5.8 to 6.3 and in Hydro 5.5 to 6.0



- PH is measured by using either a ph meter (can get a good cheap one on ebay for $10) or you can use droplets. General Hydroponics sells ph test kits. I like the droplets because they do not have to be calibrated like the pens and even though not as accurate I fall in the window of ph I need but that is personal preference.



-PH is adjusted using some form of ph up or ph down. Add this stuff very lightly. A few drops at a time. It can adjust ph quickly.



- When adding nutrient remember always less is more. You do not want to over intoxicate your plant.



- Also when adding nutrients and using additives make sure you follow what should be added in what order. Some nutrient can interact with others and cancel them out if not added first. If you are using a three part like General Hydroponics always do Micro first. If you are ever using Silica or Calmag always add those before even micro. The silica being the first of all and best to let it sit for an hour before adding calmag.



- Watering should only done when needed. Remember not to over water.
The bit with organic nutrients id edit slightly mate cos the nutrients need to be broken down by micros first then its available for the plant to uptake id say the simple way to look at it is when feeding with organics its more like you feed the soil and that feeds the plant vs chem based nutrients that are already in a available form for the plant to use
 

mudballs

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I totally agree. I want them to understand the imagery of root growth and how it will expand in the medium. I water in circles around my stems and gradually make the circle further away from the stem as it goes. Kind of directing the roots to the walls and not so much the center of the pot. I didn't want to make it to overwhelming though. This is mainly for new growers that are killing seedlings lol. Also for those just getting started and thinking about growing. This way they have an idea of what they are looking for.
New growers will still be taking a plant full life cycle with dynamic ranges of water needs during the life cycle. Each method of growing has unique watering applications too but that rabbit hole would be a chapter each method. As plant gets bigger, drinks more, need to replace more, water more often...etc.
 

Auntie Janes Nursery

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The bit with organic nutrients id edit slightly mate cos the nutrients need to be broken down by micros first then its available for the plant to uptake id say the simple way to look at it is when feeding with organics its more like you feed the soil and that feeds the plant vs chem based nutrients that are already in a available form for the plant to use
Are you referring to the ph section?
 

Auntie Janes Nursery

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I think people are getting a little off point here. This is a basic guide not an in depth experience. This is to help people get started. We all know how to grow etc. This is about helping others get started to gain the experience everyone else here has.
 

mudballs

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I think people are getting a little off point here. This is a basic guide not an in depth experience. This is to help people get started. We all know how to grow etc. This is about helping others get started to gain the experience everyone else here has.
What you do with our input is up to you. Your draft is very inclusive so you will see fringe items being discussed. Ur the author tho in the end, thumbs up, looking good so far
 

Auntie Janes Nursery

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What you do with our input is up to you. Your draft is very inclusive so you will see fringe items being discussed. Ur the author tho in the end, thumbs up, looking good so far
I get where you are coming from and there is a whole lot more for them to learn but this is just a guide to help people get started and to get them to come to places like here and be able to ask more of the questions needed from gained experience. This way they are not a deer lost in headlights all at once. So I just want to remind people of that when coming up with ideas to create this document. This is like grower for dummies in cliff notes basically. Not even meant for people already on here but more of a guide to direct people in to the conversation as they start their own experience.
 

Auntie Janes Nursery

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Once again I think people are misguided in what this thread is. This is not meant to be a sticky or some thread for people on here to come to for education. This is a document I am working on to post so others can just get a quick read on some of the intricacies of growing and how to get started. Then they can come here to discuss when they have questions. But at least it is a reference point to start at. I only came here to look for other growers to maybe add some input on things that may need to be added or adjusted.
 

MickFoster

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I appreciate what you did........it is good information.
However, if this thread isn't responded to daily........it will fade away into oblivion........like the thousands of threads before it.
Good job.
 

Wizzlebiz

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Once again I think people are misguided in what this thread is. This is not meant to be a sticky or some thread for people on here to come to for education. This is a document I am working on to post so others can just get a quick read on some of the intricacies of growing and how to get started. Then they can come here to discuss when they have questions. But at least it is a reference point to start at. I only came here to look for other growers to maybe add some input on things that may need to be added or adjusted.
I'm definitely not misguided.

I am saying this has been done multiple times this year alone by people like yourself trying to help new growers. The problem is they don't use the search function. Just like you didn't use it to see the multiple other attempts at this.

As mentioned by @MickFoster they all fade into oblivion.
 

bk78

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I'm definitely not misguided.

I am saying this has been done multiple times this year alone by people like yourself trying to help new growers. The problem is they don't use the search function. Just like you didn't use it to see the multiple other attempts at this.

As mentioned by @MickFoster they all fade into oblivion.
Nanners1 was the last one who tried lol. That never went well at all
 

Auntie Janes Nursery

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Once again, this is not for rollitup. This is for people local. For people to reference right off the bat. My own guide. I was not asking where it should be posted. I was asking for people's input on what to put in it.

This is not to be some sort of sticky. This is not to be a thread to benefit others. This is to be my own guide. I don't care about "the search" blah blah blah. At this point rollitup seems to be more of a "who is better" competition than a beneficial tool.

If you don't have input on the document itself then go find another thread. If this thread fades away I am sure I will be fine. This was just a chance to get some input.
 

lakesidegrower

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I’d suggest reading through threads and picking out some of the best stuff you find and bookmark it, then use your bookmarks to gather the info a document you can use. I have a ton of bookmarks from threads in here that I still reference constantly.

I think another way to look at what people are saying is that what you are trying to do is basically the whole point of a forum like this. Good advice to any new grower is to come here and read a ton.
 

Auntie Janes Nursery

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Has anyone in here ever edited a document before?? Why would I do research on things I have done research on?? Ever hear of a peer review??

This is not for the forum. I have said it a bunch of times now. And personally I would direct people to google before I directed them to the bickering on here. Read a ton of this garbage. Not necessary.
 
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