LED SHOPLIGHTS?

calvin.m16 said:

I saw that response coming. Yeah HPS and CMH work great but this is almost 2022 he's talking about LED shop lights not HID lights. We're well out of the 1900s now.

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You said seedlings and clones need some special spectrum.. you're full of shit. You can veg absolutely no problem with led screw in bulbs or shop lights. Stop with your nonsense

MyBallzItch said:

You said seedlings and clones need some special spectrum.. you're full of shit. You can veg absolutely no problem with led screw in bulbs or shop lights. Stop with your nonsense

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Ok Dr. MyBallzItch I'll trust you over the scientific evidence.

You probably water your plants with dechlorinated unfiltered city water too cause it works and call your pot medicine. I'm sure it has lots of medicine in it alright.

The bottom line

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However, the results of potential long-term exposure to small amounts of pharmaceuticals is unknown, but worrisome.

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I've found 6500K 54 watt T5's to be the best light for starting seedlings and the first couple weeks of veg.

Old technology but tried and true. Much easier and just as effective as an LED and you don't need to look at a damn chart to know what distance to put the light. 2-3 inches and you're golden. Excellent results as well.

xtsho said:

I've found 6500K 54 watt T5's to be the best light for starting seedlings and the first couple weeks of veg.

Old technology but tried and true. Much easier and just as effective as an LED and you don't need to look at a damn chart to know what distance to put the light. 2-3 inches and you're golden. Excellent results as well.

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Nothing beats T5 Fluorescent 6500k for VEG. I've grown 6 foot tree mother plants with 8 bulb fixtures.

calvin.m16 said:

Ok Dr. MyBallzItch I'll trust you over the scientific evidence.

You probably water your plants with dechlorinated unfiltered city water too cause it works and call your pot medicine. I'm sure it has lots of medicine in it alright.

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Oh man lol let me guess.. you're on your second maybe third grow right? Used to use advanced nutrients.. keep regurgitating bullshit

Edit: seedlings and clones need a plant specific spectrum and tap water is bad.. noted, Mr master grower

calvin.m16 said:

Nothing beats T5 Fluorescent 6500k for VEG. I've grown 6 foot tree mother plants with 8 bulb fixtures.

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Thought you needed a plant specific spectrum you freaking wonk.. go sit in the corner.. the adults are talking

The screw-in light bulbs are really good for seedling, veg, and flower, I have used them for every stage with very good results
here a grower that flowers under light bulbs

calvin.m16 said:

Nothing beats T5 Fluorescent 6500k for VEG. I've grown 6 foot tree mother plants with 8 bulb fixtures.

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Get the fuck out of Dodge. I mean seriously. Some of us can remember here on RIU when fluorescent lights were the thing with complete grows done under them. The thread still exists. The fixtures are are big and bulky compared to LED, produce less bud and more heat than LED and production sucked against HID.

If they were that great people wouldn't be trying to convince others how great they are in 2021.

https://www.rollitup.org/f/cfl-fluorescent-lighting.75/

Can you drive a Model A Ford from Baltimore to Seattle? Sure. People still do it. With pictures to prove it. Great if you are a Model A fan. Not so great if you are actually trying to get to Seattle with minimal bullshit.

Go see how updated this thread is. Lol at the Phototron fans.

calvin.m16 said:

Nothing beats T5 Fluorescent 6500k for VEG. I've grown 6 foot tree mother plants with 8 bulb fixtures.

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The're great for starting seeds and the first couple of weeks but after that it's time to switch lights. They have their place but once the plants are established it's time for more light.

I'll continue to use them for the early stages though.

calvin.m16 said:

LED Shop lights usually don't put off much PAR (photosynthetically active radiation) so you're not going to get the necessary light to your plants using them. Stick to grow lights designed to put off a light spectrum for plants.

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You said you flowered under 6500K bulbs. lol.

weedstoner420 said:

Between 6 months and 1.5 years. I still have two of them, I recently re-cloned the third one because I trimmed it back too much and it was getting too asymmetrical. Other than that no signs of slowing down, just gotta keep on top of feeding and trimming.

I'm more or less following this guide, it's super helpful getting started: https://overgrow.com/t/bonsai-mums-by-oldtimer1/1433

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Nice. I’ve had 10 for around 6 months now I think. I’m not growing my for aesthetics, I’m just keep the genetics. I plan to use a single cut to grow a temporary mother to clone off and then destroy. That way the mother can keep growing for as long as I can manage.

The top picture is of the old ones. The bottom two are of the potentials.

lusidghost said:

Nice. I’ve had 10 for around 6 months now I think. I’m not growing my for aesthetics, I’m just keep the genetics. I plan to use a single cut to grow a temporary mother to clone off and then destroy. That way the mother can keep growing for as long as I can manage.

The top picture is of the old ones. The bottom two are of the potentials.

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Beautiful! I see some really big mothers on this site, and unless people are taking dozens of cuts at one time it really seems like a waste of space to me...

Have you considered root pruning or is that less of a concern with rockwool and synthetic nutes?

hotrodharley said:

Get the fuck out of Dodge. I mean seriously. Some of us can remember here on RIU when fluorescent lights were the thing with complete grows done under them. The thread still exists. The fixtures are are big and bulky compared to LED, produce less bud and more heat than LED and production sucked against HID.

If they were that great people wouldn't be trying to convince others how great they are in 2021.

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You've got a weird hard on for me don't ya. Want pics of my grow so you can say they aren't mine. You're a real douchenozzle.

calvin.m16 said:

You've got a weird hard on for me don't ya. Want pics of my grow so you can say they aren't mine. You're a real douchenozzle.

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You're an asshole is why, boy. I'm not the first man to tell you that either. I don't have anything for you. Tell me I'm wrong and you'll be lying again.

hotrodharley said:

You're an asshole is why, boy. I'm not the first man to tell you that either. I don't have anything for you. Tell me I'm wrong and you'll be lying again.

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You're the first person to ever call me an asshole.

lusidghost said:

You said you flowered under 6500K bulbs. lol.

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Trolls will be trolls.

weedstoner420 said:

Beautiful! I see some really big mothers on this site, and unless people are taking dozens of cuts at one time it really seems like a waste of space to me...

Have you considered root pruning or is that less of a concern with rockwool and synthetic nutes?

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My theory is why not keep like 90 bonsai mothers in the same space as I was keeping 2 to 4 regular sized mothers. This way I'll never have to get rid of older genetics to free up room for something new. I usually run around 24 plants so I'll need to make a temporary mother, but the original mom will never need to get any bigger than it already is. If the OG mother seems to be slowing down or struggling within it's confined space, I'll just clone it and start a new one.

The roots seem fine in the rockwool. I could take off the wrapper and let them air prune completely, but they don't seem to need it. I could also stack them on another rockwool cube. I used to do that with vegging plants that were getting too big, but couldn't be transplanted into their final pots yet. I've had huge mothers and cut the rootballs to transplant them into smaller pots, but that was in coco.

calvin.m16 said:

You're the first person to ever call me an asshole.

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If that's true, you must be less than ten years old! Everyone has been called an asshole at one time or another.

T.H.Cammo said:

Has anybody checked these out? Or does anybody use them for growing? Wally World is selling a "4 Pack" of 54 watters (that's 216 watts) for $72.00 - WOW! If they're any good for growing, that seems like a steal. Let's hear what y'all think.

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54 watts, 80 CRI, 5000 lumen. 6500k, no good for flowering.