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jonnynobody

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PadawanWarrior said:
Some people have good luck with it. I ordered a vape pen from them awhile ago, and even though it looked like the real deal, it was a fake, and had a shit battery, and cheaper parts. I figured it out when I went in a vape store once and was like "WOW I got a deal, I only paid so and so". That's when the guy at the vape store showed my how to tell the fakes from the authentic vape pen. Well I felt like a dipshit then, lol. It didn't work for long either.

They even make fake Meanwell drivers, and make them look like the real thing. It's not for me. But like I said, the Meijiu brand doesn't look too bad, and they aren't claiming to be HLG. @bk78 has had good luck with the strips so far. His look pretty nice, but I'm hesitant to buy anything from Alibaba anymore.
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Counterfeiters can be very crafty, and I'm certain there are plenty of counterfeits to be had on Alibaba. If I had a bad experience on the platform I would be hesitant to use it again. Your feelings are justified. In my singular experience with Alibaba I was fortunate and received a great product for a reasonable price. That fortune could change on my next order. Perhaps I was a bit harsh with my feelings towards HLG. Their units are fantastic. All of their lights are made with quality components and they back their equipment with state side support that is top notch. There is value in service after the sale and knowing you are receiving genuine components. Point taken.
 
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I just saw this post in the Chinese knockoff thread. This is interesting.

The Chinese Quantum Board Knock Off Builds

For a 4x8, would bars be better than multiple 240w boards? Still trying to figure out best approach as it's quite lot of money for me. I am debating between 4-5 240w 3000k versus 2 600w bars
www.rollitup.org
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That's not what geeklight would tell you
 

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Judging LED grow lights by wattage is meaningless. You can have two different lights running at the same wattage and one may produce 2x as much light. Look for PPFD information, then email the company and ask for the sphere test report. If they don't have one, then there data is bullshit. Time to stop letting these thieving Chinese companies bullshit us.
 
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pop22 said:
Yeah and 80% of the sellers on there are lying thieves, but hey, it's your money!
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Yea I was hesitant to buy from there also and I'm sure there are thieves but thats what trade assurance and credit card charge backs are for.

I'll keep ordering from them but I can understand why people don't want to. As long everybody is happy with their setup I don't think it should matter where the lights came from.
 
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jonnynobody

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pop22 said:
Yeah and 80% of the sellers on there are lying thieves, but hey, it's your money!
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20 years ago people like you said the same thing about ebay. And 10 years ago people like you said the same thing about amazon. Enjoy your tinfoil hat. It fits you nicely.
 
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chronnie49 said:
Yea I was hesitant to buy from there also and I'm sure there are thieves but thats what trade assurance and credit card charge backs are for.

I'll keep ordering from them but I can understand why people don't want to. As long everybody is happy with their setup I don't think it should matter where the lights came from.
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I love the China haters. They all shop at wally world just like the rest of us where almost every item on their shelves that isn't food is made in China. If they claim they don't shop at wally world then you know they shop on Amazon where 95% of everything they sell is made in China. Most domestically manufactured vehicles (i.e. dodge, ford, gm) contain more foreign manufactured components than a Toyota that was assembled in America. Welcome to the global economy. How about your cellular phone? To pretend you're taking some grand stand against made in China is just delusional make America great again fucktard nonsense.
 
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jonnynobody

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NukaKola said:
Probably filmed in a factory in China :lol:

JK...

But notice the made in China machine that is manufacturing the “made in USA” lights lol
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Your comment is in all likelihood 100% accurate. I'm sure the HLG logo overlay in the corner of the video is what sold it for him. I don't mean for this to be a pissing contest, but there are people on this forum reading threads like this and then making purchases based off of that information. Overpaying for equipment is bad business whether you're making dildos or growing pot. It affects your bottom line and restrains your ability to expand. For instance, a friend of mine in another state bought 2 or 3 of the HLG units when he first started and a couple of those overpriced fluence units. He eventually ordered a few of the mars units off of Amazon with the Samsung LM301b chips and Mean Well drivers to compare against the overpriced units he already had. He wound up ordering 15-20 mars units instead of more HLG or fluence units. Why? He said the mars units appeared brighter than his HLG and fluence units that he paid 2-3x as much for. If there was any difference he couldn't tell other than what he paid to outfit his rooms. He's a business man. That's why he has that kind of money to play with, but he's not in the business of wasting it either. For that reason he bought equipment that has excellent performance, produces excellent results, and for half the cost of the units he originally started with. He just installed 36k mini split AC units and co2 burners in each of his 3 grow rooms. Again, people like him are interested in results and hard data. Not fluff. No HLG. No fluence.
 
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jonnynobody

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Shape Shifter said:
Pffffttt...bunch of rubes in this thread. My LED is handmade in Switzerland by skilled craftsman that get two months of paid vacation a year. Sure, it cost a lot at $5000 for 500W, but I sleep well knowing my light is more expensive than yours.
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If you had used my 10% off referral code you could have swerved that for only $4500. Holla at your boy next time dude. I got you.
 
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