JorgeGonzales
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He meant like burning ants with a magnifying glass. But don't do that. I like ants.
Light Intensity; LED vs HID
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BM9AGS
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Matterless matter....huh
There are currently scientists disproving some of Einsteins laws of light. Such as having matter and speed. But it's all given the totality of circumstances.
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BM9AGS
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That's for only 2 factors.Duality ^^
Abiqua
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the only 2 that count
mauricem00
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looks good on paper but does it work in real lifeDuality ^^
. Einstein believed that relativity was flawed and would be replaced by a better theory one day.
Abiqua
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ooh agree...many have proposed an alternate, one of my favorites was mister Tesla, who had a few thoughts on the matterlooks good on paper but does it work in real life
mauricem00
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I like mister Tesla. he was way ahead of his time. I think field theory will give quantum theory a run for its money but it appeals more to engineers than theoristooh agree...many have proposed an alternate, one of my favorites was mister Tesla, who had a few thoughts on the matter
Hybridway
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CRANK UP YOUR COBS PUSSYS!!!!!!
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Hybridway
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If you guys would consider powering your COBs @ 65-75% then you would be getting the intensity Deeper into your canopies.
Totally understand the spreading them out for an even PPFD. That's great. But as we can see, only a few inches down the drop is so significant that any buds lower the that will most likely turn to Flarf.
Which is why everyone stresses the whole open/even canopy thing. We should have an open/even canopy either way to yield the most in most cases but why not have the penetration w/ an extra 20 watts a COB?
The efficiency & efficacy will still be there providing you properly cool your COBs.
And your harvest yield will increase substantially. Allot more then the $4 increase a fixture (guesstimate) that you'll have to pay come bill time.
Amare just came out w/ HO (HighOutput) versions of their new Pro-series lights. Combine that with their already highest PAR #'s from using the combo of reflectors, Lenses, & monos & these lights are now w/o any question or doubt, the most powerful led grow lights available. By far too. Not just the same components running at the same wattage but claiming to be the most powerful & somehow, still the most efficient.
And with a 5 year warranty, no matter what your efficacy theories are, They are covered. And with the new Copper heat sinks & better heat dissipation design, they don't seem to be worried about your LEDs burning out or they'd have lowered their warranty time on the HO Lights. But they didn't.
Again, didn't wanna bring Amare into this cuz some shut-down their listing abilities. But I personally think it's about time an led company gave is the option to have penetration in our gardens. Its my dream come true!
So, point is, if an LED company can do it, with everything on the line, Then why can't you guys build them that way & be happy?
Is it because it's wrong or because you don't do it because what you've read says its inefficient?
Bigger better sinks, powerful fans would do the trick for you wouldn't it? Is it gonna burn the bud, it doesn't with my HPS, vented n close!
More penetration w/ your choice on spread. Isn't that what we all want.
Ha! Ha! Just read that back. lol! So stoned LOL! Ha!
Totally understand the spreading them out for an even PPFD. That's great. But as we can see, only a few inches down the drop is so significant that any buds lower the that will most likely turn to Flarf.
Which is why everyone stresses the whole open/even canopy thing. We should have an open/even canopy either way to yield the most in most cases but why not have the penetration w/ an extra 20 watts a COB?
The efficiency & efficacy will still be there providing you properly cool your COBs.
And your harvest yield will increase substantially. Allot more then the $4 increase a fixture (guesstimate) that you'll have to pay come bill time.
Amare just came out w/ HO (HighOutput) versions of their new Pro-series lights. Combine that with their already highest PAR #'s from using the combo of reflectors, Lenses, & monos & these lights are now w/o any question or doubt, the most powerful led grow lights available. By far too. Not just the same components running at the same wattage but claiming to be the most powerful & somehow, still the most efficient.
And with a 5 year warranty, no matter what your efficacy theories are, They are covered. And with the new Copper heat sinks & better heat dissipation design, they don't seem to be worried about your LEDs burning out or they'd have lowered their warranty time on the HO Lights. But they didn't.
Again, didn't wanna bring Amare into this cuz some shut-down their listing abilities. But I personally think it's about time an led company gave is the option to have penetration in our gardens. Its my dream come true!
So, point is, if an LED company can do it, with everything on the line, Then why can't you guys build them that way & be happy?
Is it because it's wrong or because you don't do it because what you've read says its inefficient?
Bigger better sinks, powerful fans would do the trick for you wouldn't it? Is it gonna burn the bud, it doesn't with my HPS, vented n close!
More penetration w/ your choice on spread. Isn't that what we all want.
Ha! Ha! Just read that back. lol! So stoned LOL! Ha!
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Hybridway
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Doesn't matter what kind of bulb or ballast are being used here. That is what trees will look like using vertical suspended HPS bulbs in general.
This was my grow style for my first 4 grows but I used hoods. Huge yeilds & buds all around the plants with spaces between each one. Round tops like big Loli-pops.
Abiqua
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explain fail...please stop
dbkick
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lamp and ballast kinda does mean something to me, My question has been addressed twice now and answered not once but thank you for the info.
Hybridway
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Wrong again!
Ok guys. I'm just catching up on few days of this thread now. And as I go I'm responding to the BS. So excuse me if anyone has already put a BS'r in their place. I'll prolly read it after I post my response.
What I don't get, is why people with absolutely NO hands on knowledge of what they speak, will say shit w/ so much authority. slightly medicated to, finding it hard to find my words.
Hands on experience & what you've read somewhere, is two totally different things.
suggest you focus more on how much total light is being produced, rather than the current levels for each individual light engine.
PPF is additive between mutiple sources, and the total ppfd at the canopy surface matters the most.
Hybridway
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Sure does, when growing an even, & short canopy.
You don't want both? Hard n deep, while getting wide? Get it deep in there & wide!!!
How do you suggest I relate how much total light is being produced other then mentioning increasing the light engine?
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Hybridway
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Hybridway
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Parabolic hood w/ an HPS bulb.
Think I said that right. Used to use 2 big ones in veg!
