M4S73R's Vertical Organic No Till Scrog.

What a busy weekend. Had to do some building. In the first pic i have done the exhaust as well as the electrical for the 2 tents. 8 inch inline fan pulling through 2 6inch filters in each tent. Less than 5 foot of ducting to each one. I have also opted to go with active intakes. Mounted to the top of each tent is a 6 inch inline fan with some ducting coming down into the tent. Been running lights today and heat stays at 78 degrees inside with outside ambient temp being 72.







Second pic is of the right room. Pots in this room are a little dry right now. they been sitting inside for a bit. They were part of the last grow and will cook for awhile. I'll get some cover crop sowed next week some time. Another big change is I am now living in a medical legal state and we can only grow 6 plants. So i have changed up to just running 3 per room.




Next pic is the out side of the 2 tents in relations to each other. On the left is the veg table. Not a lot going on there. 4ft 4 bulb t5 for starting. I transplant pretty early to the big pots.



Anf finally the left tent. those pots have been cooking for about 5 months out side. been too cold for cover crop so we sowed that in tonight. That is a old i power bulb that i used for about a year. Its my cover crop bulb now. its running at half power for around 14 hours per day.





Ill be popping seeds tomorrow.

Finally got the watering system set up. I got a hold of a Nelson Duel Zone water timer. couple of hose to 1/4 barb fittings and the C sprayers. Done.

Ive had the same 4ft t5 veg light since I first started growing in 2012. When I first joined this forum actually. Ive only changed the 4 bulbs once. Its been great. I had a 8 bulb one that the ballasts went out in. I have also decided to keep bonsai mothers of my strains. I have put in a order of my familys favorite strains (the freebies were great too). Should be here in a few days. Ill post the list below.
With that I felt it was time to upgrade my veg light for a bigger coverage area. The t5 was great for getting 3 or 4 plants started but that was about it. Almost went with a 8bulb t5. but for the money i was able to get 2 Parafactworks ra1000s. for less then the 8 bulb with more coverage area. We'll get those installed when they come in.

More to come.

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quick update. LED veg lights came in and were installed. Theyre very bright and my first LED's. sitting at 40inches abover plants. Not much going on got my very last 2 seeds germinating. G13 blueberry headband and Missing in barcelona. MiB may not make it. its a old seed. well see.

more to come

had a buddy come by and give me 2 clones of GG#4xGSC. ill keep one as a mother for awhile. topped both of them and am cloning the tops. once they root in theyll be going into the no tills.

Nice cross! Should be strong as hell.

Im interested in the kind of hash it makes.

Quick update while I have some time. Girls are well on their way. MiB finally popped up out the ground, as did the g13xheadband. However G13H didnt have any starting leaves... I got another seed of that if anything. Im happy the MiB came up I was excited to see how fast that one went.

Cover crop is coming in real nice. Have already mowed it all a couple of times in the left room. Also in left room the one plant i have in there is finally over xplant shock and has started to take off.

Been a few day since I last updated. Not much going on as of yet. Went ahead and popped Critical from the freebies. Got clones all transplanted into the first tent. I'll be flipping in late June and chopping mid Oct. Everything is now set up that I should be getting things moving along. Here is some other things...

With my stimulus checks (first one is already in) Ill be getting 2 new pieces of gear. First is a Toms Tumbler Trimmer. I don't have it in me to hire other people to help trim and I don't want to spend as much time trimming as I have been. So Ill hand trim the choice tops and tumble trim the rest. as a Added bonus the tumbler comes with both a sorting screen and 151 micron pollen screen with optional co2 system.
I'm going to contact them and see if they'll throw in the 110 screen. After everything I have seen on youtube ect im pretty sold. I know that a machine will tear up the buds a bit and you'll lose some trics. I'm good with it. Saves me 8+ hours trimming lol.

I don't grow enough to want to do ice water extraction I have figured out. If I was producing 15+ lbs of bud just for hash or more I'd be all over it, but I don't. With 4 plants I had 1 lbs ish to wash. I have a washer and bags and its ok. However its a huge time suck, its wet, its cold, and it really needs to be dried in the proper environment or with the right equipment. Last time I made hash I spent like 4 hours doing it. Then drying it for 6 days in a AC room and all that.... bleh. I commend Frenchie and Matt on their process and dedication but I cant see myself spending 2200 on a freeze dryer plus all the time washing, sieving and the ice (however co2 may be something to look at for cold and agitation to possibly eliminate ice...).

I'm out on all this. I also didn't always get full melt. Between the 90 and 73 sometimes I wouldn't get it as the Strain just wasn't a full melt strain. PASS. Don't get me wrong, I produced some full melt that was absolutely amazing. But at some point you have to decide if the juice is worth the squeeze. So we're going to move to a co2 dry sift rosin press. Found a fully automatic electric one that will be back in stock late June for 825. SOLD. TTT has a optional co2 accessory. Just makes more sense for me.

Im not sure if anyone is reading this or not. I do get long winded as part of this is to track things over time. I have always used this as a reference to some of my idea.

Well kids this will sadly be my last post on this journal. Always feel free to ask me anything about this log but im no longer growing in 25 gallon no till and no longer vertical. I have had to replace my lights with LED to cut down on costs. 650 bucks a month during the summer liked to kill me. So were into other things. Ill put a link to the new grow in my sig in a few days. here are some final pics. and some issues we had with this last grow.


150 gallon fabric pot to cook in. stir every 2 weeks. Its currntly holding 75 gallons of dirt.





Bought a bag of "No till cover" was running that and trying to grow. Wrong shit. I got some more Kelp on the way and clover started. They should pull through and be ok in a week or 2. with some daily teas.



The view of the new room Reduced to 50 gallons total dirt. the rings are nursery pot plugs. They will get pulled out when I xfer in new starts.
your seeing 2 8 inch transfer ducts to the other tent. The sprayers are Black C-sprayers



I have tents HVAC tied together. in the Left hand side we have veg tent/bloom overflow. There is a 6inch fan with homemade filter (rubbermade container and funace filter) blowing air in. 2 8 inch ducts to the Bloom room (right)with fan exhausting. Ambient temp is 78ish even 80 inside both tents. Both fan on speed controllers on lowest setting. 4 Parafactworks LEDS in left tent and 1 spiderfarmer 4k in the right.




Going from left to right, Toms Tumble Trimmer. Tea buckets, Mother plant, 5 clones in cloning bucket, 2nd mother plant, worm bin.
As soon at the clones are good to go they will get xplaned to the little pots on the left of the table and the mothers go back into one of the tents in veg.




Hope you enjoyed the read!!

m4s73r said:

Well kids this will sadly be my last post on this journal. Always feel free to ask me anything about this log but im no longer growing in 25 gallon no till and no longer vertical. I have had to replace my lights with LED to cut down on costs. 650 bucks a month during the summer liked to kill me. So were into other things. Ill put a link to the new grow in my sig in a few days. here are some final pics. and some issues we had with this last grow.


150 gallon fabric pot to cook in. stir every 2 weeks. Its currntly holding 75 gallons of dirt.
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Bought a bag of "No till cover" was running that and trying to grow. Wrong shit. I got some more Kelp on the way and clover started. They should pull through and be ok in a week or 2. with some daily teas.
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The view of the new room Reduced to 50 gallons total dirt. the rings are nursery pot plugs. They will get pulled out when I xfer in new starts.
your seeing 2 8 inch transfer ducts to the other tent. The sprayers are Black C-sprayers

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I have tents HVAC tied together. in the Left hand side we have veg tent/bloom overflow. There is a 6inch fan with homemade filter (rubbermade container and funace filter) blowing air in. 2 8 inch ducts to the Bloom room (right)with fan exhausting. Ambient temp is 78ish even 80 inside both tents. Both fan on speed controllers on lowest setting. 4 Parafactworks LEDS in left tent and 1 spiderfarmer 4k in the right.

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Going from left to right, Toms Tumble Trimmer. Tea buckets, Mother plant, 5 clones in cloning bucket, 2nd mother plant, worm bin.
As soon at the clones are good to go they will get xplaned to the little pots on the left of the table and the mothers go back into one of the tents in veg.

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Hope you enjoyed the read!!

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