Man beheaded in London

MojoRison said:
I see your point but to play devils advocate. Anyone, including you or I can say anything we want to instigate a fight and it's just as easy to play the terrorist card when you want people to stand and take notice...I'm not a terrorist but I play one on TV :o.
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To me if you spill blood and then claim political or religious views it's still terrorism whether your playing a part or not.

Terrorism is the use of violence for political reasons. They advocated for people to ignore their government and to me it has everythingto do with the influence British and the U.S. forces have enforced over middle eastern areas since before the cold war. I am not trying to justify what they did but that is my theory about what is at the core of hatred towards western forces. Running over a person and then cutting them up and embracing recording of the ordeal seems to scream a intent and not a excuse.


Edit: the way they went about hitting the guy with a car then cutting him up seems different to me then instigating a fight
 
ThatGuy113 said:
To me if you spill blood and then claim political or religious views it's still terrorism whether your playing a part or not.

Terrorism is the use of violence for political reasons. They advocated for people to ignore their government and to me it has everythingto do with the influence British and the U.S. forces have enforced over middle eastern areas since before the cold war. I am not trying to justify what they did but that is my theory about what is at the core of hatred towards western forces. Running over a person and then cutting them up and embracing recording of the ordeal seems to scream a intent and not a excuse.


Edit: the way they went about hitting the guy with a car then cutting him up seems different to me then instigating a fight
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I can agree with what you've said here and to keep with my evil doppelganger in this debate, can we agree that if I were to use subterfuge as a tactic, something like posing as someone or group, that would be a benefit to me as in confusing my enemy and keep them guessing of my end game.... the use of lackeys is a popular ploy.
 
But what's the benefit of hiding a end game situation. It doesn't seem as if they had a complicated multi level plan so far....


Like their ' end game ' isn't anything major as if it were a major rogue nation leading the attack


Thats just me though and the limited info I have gone over about the event today
 
ThatGuy113 said:
But what's the benefit of hiding a end game situation. It doesn't seem as if they had a complicated multi level plan so far....
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If you're too busy or distracted by what the left hand is doing, you'll always be surprised by the right hand.

Ask yourself this, why did they wait for the cops, what possible reason would keep them at the scene. They had already put the message out, in fact they went out of their way to ensure we heard it. Were they making a plea for their side of things or simply rubbing ours nose in it.

I don't want to been as someone who thinks this a nothing situation and that I have no heart or compassion, quiet the opposite to be truthful. I pose difficult questions only to ensure a more accurate depiction of events instead of hyperbole.
 
MojoRison said:
If you're too busy or distracted by what the left hand is doing, you'll always be surprised by the right hand.

Ask yourself this, why did they wait for the cops, what possible reason would keep them at the scene. They had already put the message out, in fact they went out of their way to ensure we heard it. Were they making a plea for their side of things or simply rubbing ours nose in it.

I don't want to been as someone who thinks this a nothing situation and that I have no heart or compassion, quiet the opposite to be truthful. I pose difficult questions only to ensure a more accurate depiction of events instead of hyperbole.
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I don't necesarily agree with what you say, but can see why you say it.
 
MojoRison said:
If you're too busy or distracted by what the left hand is doing, you'll always be surprised by the right hand.

Ask yourself this, why did they wait for the cops, what possible reason would keep them at the scene. They had already put the message out, in fact they went out of their way to ensure we heard it. Were they making a plea for their side of things or simply rubbing ours nose in it.

I don't want to been as someone who thinks this a nothing situation and that I have no heart or compassion, quiet the opposite to be truthful. I pose difficult questions only to ensure a more accurate depiction of events instead of hyperbole.
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To me it was way to low key and uncomplicated for it to be a sly move by some group. The deaths were limited to one person hardly something I'd link to a multi level distraction tactic
 
dr.gonzo1 said:
I don't necesarily agree with what you say, but can see why you say it.
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And that's all I ask, is to see the other side of things. Like yourself and most here I do not agree with their tactics or their supposed reasons for such an act, but I do like the debates we like minded individuals can have about such events.
 
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this is why I like being able to carry a gun. Who would have ever thought they would be stopped by two strangers and beheaded? All I want is a chance to defend myself.
 
ClaytonBigsby said:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this is why I like being able to carry a gun. Who would have ever thought they would be stopped by two strangers and beheaded? All I want is a chance to defend myself.
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So right, if anything is gonna interupt your day. Its two fuckers with knifes trying to behead you n shit.

Aint nobody got time for that.
 
ClaytonBigsby said:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this is why I like being able to carry a gun. Who would have ever thought they would be stopped by two strangers and beheaded? All I want is a chance to defend myself.
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I think they ran him over first, in that situation i'm not so sure how a gun would of helped you, perhaps you may of been able to dodge the on-coming car or even jump over it
i know that i would of dodged it myself with my ninja like reflexes
maybe some armour would be more appropriate

or it could play out like this
[video=youtube;7k7DWeR1hfY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k7DWeR1hfY[/video]

peace :)
 
I dunno,.could be genetics. I remember someone.posted a video.of kids getting pranked to kick a stone ball, they ALL got right back up within a split of a second, like literally nothing happened.
 
skunkd0c said:
I think they ran him over first, in that situation i'm not so sure how a gun would of helped you, perhaps you may of been able to dodge the on-coming car or even jump over it
i know that i would of dodged it myself with my ninja like reflexes
maybe some armour would be more appropriate

or it could play out like this
[video=youtube;7k7DWeR1hfY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k7DWeR1hfY[/video]

peace :)
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you can gun a car. cn
 
cannabineer said:
you can gun a car. cn
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i can see how that could work but we need to work out some ground rules with the terrorists* first

Firstly terrorists may only run gun-toting folk over at a low-speed below 20mph from a direction where the victim of the terrorist attack can see them
this at-least gives the potential victim time to draw his weapon turn it sideways like a gangsta and take aim

perhaps a periscope type device or some spy glasses would improve field of view and provide further assistance in the event said terrorist does not stick to the plan and attempts to attack from behind (blind spot)
also it would be helpful if all terrorists drove mini's they are not so heavy, i think if i am going to get run over i would like it to be a mini

peace
 
skunkd0c said:
i can see how that could work but we need to work out some ground rules with the terrorists* first

Firstly terrorists may only run gun-toting folk over at a low-speed below 20mph from a direction where the victim of the terrorist attack can see them
this at-least gives the potential victim time to draw his weapon turn it sideways like a gangsta and take aim

perhaps a periscope type device or some spy glasses would improve field of view and provide further assistance in the event said terrorist does not stick to the plan and attempts to attack from behind (blind spot)
also it would be helpful if all terrorists drove mini's they are not so heavy, i think if i am going to get run over i would like it to be a mini

peace
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If I got to choose ... a hovercraft. cn
 
or, I could be out walking my dog, see two asshats hit a guy with their car, get out with a machete and start chanting about Allah while they go to seperate the guy from his head, and shoot the shit out of them. If I was at a restaurant, grocery store, school, etc., and someone came in shooting at people, I wouldn't wait for them to aim at me.
 
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