Mexican Truckers invade The US today

medicineman

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Mexican Trucks To Invade US Roadways, Displace American Truck Drivers - Thank Our Criminal President And NAFTA

WASHINGTON, DC — The Teamsters Union said it has been told by officials in the Transportation Department’s Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration that the first Mexican trucks will be coming across the border on Saturday.
The union said Wednesday it would ask a federal appeals courts to block the Bush administration’s plan to begin allowing Mexican trucks to carry cargo anywhere in the United States.
Teamsters leaders said they planned to seek an emergency injunction Wednesday from the Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals in San Francisco.
“What a slap in the face to American workers, opening the highways to dangerous trucks on Labor Day weekend, one of the busiest driving weekends of the year,” said Teamsters President Jim Hoffa.
Joining the Teamsters in seeking the emergency stay were the Sierra Club and Public Citizen.
“Before providing unconditional access throughout the country to tens of thousands of big rigs we know little to nothing about, we must insure they meet safety and environmental standards,” Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope said.
The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, in a statement, said it was working closely with the department’s inspector general “as his office completes an additional assessment of the program and we prepare a detailed response to that report.”
The Bush administration said last week it would start the cross-border program once the Transportation Department’s inspector general certifies safety and inspection plans.
Leslie Miller, a Teamsters spokeswoman, said attorneys for the federal truck safety agency advised the union’s lawyers that they expect to get that certification on Friday. She said the Teamsters also were told by the agency attorneys that limited authority for trucks to begin crossing the border will be approved Saturday.
Supporters of the plan say letting more Mexican trucks on U.S. highways will save American consumers hundreds of millions of dollars.
Labor and driver-owner groups have been fighting the measure — part of the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement — since it was first proposed, saying the program will erode highway safety and eliminate U.S. jobs.
A one-year demonstration project would allow 100 Mexican motor carriers full access to U.S. roads. It can begin as soon as the inspector general certifies that safety and inspection plans and facilities are sufficient to ensure the Mexican trucks are as safe as U.S. trucks.
Since 1982, Mexican trucks have had to stop within a buffer border zone and transfer their loads to U.S. trucks.
According to the CHP, 18 percent of Mexican carriers were sidelined in 2006. That figure stands in contrast with the 19 percent of American companies................................................Wait untill one of those worn out Mexican trucks kills a whole family of illegals here in the USA, wouldn't that be something to watch on TV. But seriously, this is just another blow to the middle class truck drivers and definently to safety on our highways. NAU, the beginning.
 

ViRedd

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"Since 1982, Mexican trucks have had to stop within a buffer border zone and transfer their loads to U.S. trucks."

That sounds pretty inefficient to me. But what the Hell, if the Teamsters and Sierra Club join forces against the Mexican trucks, it has to be a good thing. I mean, we all know there isn't any self interest afoot, don't we boys?

Vi
 

medicineman

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"Since 1982, Mexican trucks have had to stop within a buffer border zone and transfer their loads to U.S. trucks."

That sounds pretty inefficient to me. But what the Hell, if the Teamsters and Sierra Club join forces against the Mexican trucks, it has to be a good thing. I mean, we all know there isn't any self interest afoot, don't we boys?

Vi
Self interest like saving their jobs from low cost mexican labor, what planet are you from anyway. If the crack mexican salesmen were coming to town and were accepting 1/4 of your usual commission to push houses, would you be concerned. Geeze, talk about a brick head. ~LOL~.
 

ViRedd

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Self interest like saving their jobs from low cost mexican labor, what planet are you from anyway. If the crack mexican salesmen were coming to town and were accepting 1/4 of your usual commission to push houses, would you be concerned. Geeze, talk about a brick head. ~LOL~.
I have news for ya, Med ... there is always brutal competition in my business. There are already people out there charging 1/4 of a normal commission. Like anything else in life, you get what you pay for. The key is to learn everything you can about the competition and what they offer. Then, during the sales presentation, show the prospect what they will get from the competition in terms of exposure, and what they will get from you, the full service broker. Its well known in the sales field that fear of loss is a far greater motivator than chance of gain.

Vi
 

medicineman

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I have news for ya, Med ... there is always brutal competition in my business. There are already people out there charging 1/4 of a normal commission. Like anything else in life, you get what you pay for. The key is to learn everything you can about the competition and what they offer. Then, during the sales presentation, show the prospect what they will get from the competition in terms of exposure, and what they will get from you, the full service broker. Its well known in the sales field that fear of loss is a far greater motivator than chance of gain.

Vi
Well La-ti-da. It doesn't work that way in the trucking industry. If you let the cheap mexican labor move our goods, do you really think the price of the goods will come down. Hell no. The profit will go up and many more middle class families will be without jobs. Can't you see the trend, or do you really give one fuck about anyone other than yourself. The mexican truckers will eventually demand more money and be replaced with Salvadoran drivers and on and on untill the whole labor market is about 2.00 an hour, the great NAU in action. I see the crash of this great nation coming about by Greed. It won't affect us too much as we'll be long gone, but my grandkids are in for a rough ride.
 

ViRedd

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Well then, find a more efficient way to move product. Quite frankly, I think the world, or at least the highways, would be better off with no trucks at all.

Vi
 

closet.cult

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we are one step closer to the United Countries of North America.

welcome to your New World Order. forget about nationalism. just consume and pay your taxes. forget about individualism, unless you're in the old club...rich blood.
 

krime13

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One correction med, a regular trucker havent been middle class for some time now, most of them are working poor...
 

7xstall

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i personally don't see how the president can be concerned about enforcing a provision of NAFTA when the laws regarding our nation's borders are ignored by thousands of illegals everyday.

this is a great example of what is wrong with our government.




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medicineman

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One correction med, a regular trucker havent been middle class for some time now, most of them are working poor...
Well, your probably right. I made 20.00 an hr. at my union job. I know plenty of truckers that made more, owner-operators, and plenty of drivers that made less. 20.00 an hour is about subsistence level pay. without my wifes income, we would have been poor indeed. I don't know how minimum wage workers do it. I never made less than 20.00 an hr. since the 70s, problem is, I never made more either, so were living on 70s wages in 2007 prices, even 2 incomes is not enough to live comfortably.
 

ViRedd

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Well, your probably right. I made 20.00 an hr. at my union job. I know plenty of truckers that made more, owner-operators, and plenty of drivers that made less. 20.00 an hour is about subsistence level pay. without my wifes income, we would have been poor indeed. I don't know how minimum wage workers do it. I never made less than 20.00 an hr. since the 70s, problem is, I never made more either, so were living on 70s wages in 2007 prices, even 2 incomes is not enough to live comfortably.
About 50% of what you earn is eaten up in taxes. So ... what is causing you to need a double income, Med?

Vi
 

medicineman

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About 50% of what you earn is eaten up in taxes. So ... what is causing you to need a double income, Med?

Vi
The problem is: business owners need to pay more to their employees instead of giving it to the Feds, just like Chris's boss does. Why were my wages the same in 2004 as in 1975? 30 fricken years and wages never went up, did costs go up?
With the greedy company owners trying to amass huge wealth instead of taking the lions share and sharing with their employees, the workers are put on peasant wages.
Since you are so far right you are even right of John Birch, this concept looks like communism to you. You are the type of person that doesn't know how to share, never shared your toys, never shared your girlfriends, never shared your money, thats for sure.
Learn how to share VI, it will make you a better person.
 

ViRedd

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The problem is: business owners need to pay more to their employees instead of giving it to the Feds, just like Chris's boss does. Why were my wages the same in 2004 as in 1975? 30 fricken years and wages never went up, did costs go up?
With the greedy company owners trying to amass huge wealth instead of taking the lions share and sharing with their employees, the workers are put on peasant wages.
Since you are so far right you are even right of John Birch, this concept looks like communism to you. You are the type of person that doesn't know how to share, never shared your toys, never shared your girlfriends, never shared your money, thats for sure.
Learn how to share VI, it will make you a better person.
Did you ever consider starting your own company, offering "fair" wages, and then recruiting the best of the workers from the competition? Surely if the competition were paying unfair wages, their best employees would jump at the chance to work for you, Med.

Vi
 

medicineman

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Did you ever consider starting your own company, offering "fair" wages, and then recruiting the best of the workers from the competition? Surely if the competition were paying unfair wages, their best employees would jump at the chance to work for you, Med.

Vi
There you go with the old head up the ass thing again. I already posted that when I was in business I paid well above the going rate and had very loyal employees. I could never figure out why the other guys wouldn't do it. I had guys from gas stations miles away putting in apps. Most of the station owners I knew, were selfish jerks, with super egos and asshole written all over them, Kind of how I envision you, VI. And I wouldn't steal from the competrition, I trained them myself, that way I got what I wanted and needed.
 

krime13

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One question for all, why do we tollerate canadian truckers who have been hauling in the US for years, but mexican trucker is a nono, seems like a double standard to me...
 

7xstall

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mexicans already smuggle dozens of illegals through in a suitcase, why let them pull in with a 52 foot trailer?

Canada respects our borders, mexico does not.






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FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Wow makin $20 in the 70's you should have a good stock pile of money considering average minimum wage then was what $3.00 and prices for everything were very low.I worked my way from $4.25 to my current $20 an hour wage and it only took what 18 years.So Id put you in an upper class bracket medicine since you had such high pay for so long.Yeah and damn Clinton for signing NAFTA into effect that cock sucker screwed us good.I say turn the border militia loose on them and give them the right to shoot on sight.Now if we could just get that fence and acroc moat dug we might have something going. Its to late in Chicago areas as when you walk into wal mart or Target the signs and commercials on the PA are in spainish.My favorite is when illegals get arrested and then say thier rights are being violated and they were profiled.Well yeah you don't have rights as an illegal alien and yeah you were profiled as your an illegal..enjoy the bus trip home see ya back in the US in a week.I wouldnt mind canadians sneakin in as long as they bring some BC buds and when I get real high keep saying about like its spelled a boot lol canadians are North Americas teddy bears so cute and harmless gotta luv them...
 

medicineman

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Wow makin $20 in the 70's you should have a good stock pile of money considering average minimum wage then was what $3.00 and prices for everything were very low.I worked my way from $4.25 to my current $20 an hour wage and it only took what 18 years.So Id put you in an upper class bracket medicine since you had such high pay for so long.Yeah and damn Clinton for signing NAFTA into effect that cock sucker screwed us good.I say turn the border militia loose on them and give them the right to shoot on sight.Now if we could just get that fence and acroc moat dug we might have something going. Its to late in Chicago areas as when you walk into wal mart or Target the signs and commercials on the PA are in spainish.My favorite is when illegals get arrested and then say thier rights are being violated and they were profiled.Well yeah you don't have rights as an illegal alien and yeah you were profiled as your an illegal..enjoy the bus trip home see ya back in the US in a week.I wouldnt mind canadians sneakin in as long as they bring some BC buds and when I get real high keep saying about like its spelled a boot lol canadians are North Americas teddy bears so cute and harmless gotta luv them...
Actually filthy, I made 17.70 an hour in 1976 as a lead carpenter, you know, the one that runs the job., that's only a dollar over scale, and yes, I lived quite well in the 70s, not extravagent, but adequate. Trouble is: The mexicans started moving in on construction jobs, so I bought a gas station franchise and also lived quite well. I've generally considered my pay structure as lower middle class, never quite rising to the priveledge arena, and as a gas station owner, I had to work as a mechanic to pay the bills, as the fuel barely paid the overhead. The beauty of that was, I got to keep 100% of the labor, After taxes. When you're in business, you send the government a check quarterly for taxes, Man that really hurt, like you had to cut a check for 3-5 grand, ouch.
 

shamegame

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One question for all, why do we tollerate canadian truckers who have been hauling in the US for years, but mexican trucker is a nono, seems like a double standard to me...
Because of a few reasons:

1.) Canadian safety standards for vehicles and drivers is pretty much on par with the U.S., while Mexican drivers and their vehicles are both suspect at best , completely unsafe at worst.

2.) Canadians are not breaking into our country by the millions ( yes , millions ).We do not have to worry so much about letting Canadian trucks arcoss the border unchecked as we do Mexican. Canadas economy is much better than Mexico which equals less desperation.

3.) Although Canada dose import a fair amount of pot to the U.S., it is much less violent than the cocaine / heroin action comming from Mexico, and the trucks in question may be used to direct-drop product all around the country.
 
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