Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

Genetically Engineered Cannabis yes or no?


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echelon1k1

New Member
I think you're mad cos your country was founded as a penal colony and we sent all out criminals over there.
Half the people the brits sent were poor drunk irish peasants... 200 years later whats changed in ireland? obviously not a thing

learn your own history fucktard (the scary thing is you'll pass on your irish ignorance to all 20 of your children since you breed like rabbits)

 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Half the people the brits sent were poor drunk irish peasants... 200 years later whats changed in ireland? obviously not a thing

learn your own history fucktard (the scary thing is you'll pass on your irish ignorance to all 20 of your children since you breed like rabbits)

Kids are great, don't think I could eat more than one tho.

You mad bro?
 

DNAprotection

Well-Known Member
PEOPLE EAT GM FOOD ALL THE TIME.

Wow you Aussies are fucking stupid.

EDIT: It really isn't a wonder to me now why your country has to issue work visas for foreigners to come in to do simple shit like driving forklifts if you're representative of the typical Australian.
Frank, in my absence I have received multiple emails telling me of your continued postings here as you and echelon1k1 go back and forth cutting at each others genetics, I can only be thankful you aren't in a lab doing such.
I only came back for a moment Frank to try and help further nurse you through this if possible...




First though Frank you never responded to my fulfillment of your request of wanting to see 'my words' etc lol...maybe you should go back and review on page 70:

https://www.rollitup.org/politics/602854-monsanto-cannabis-yes-no-dna-70.html


I gave you not only a good bit of my own verbiage on the subject, but I also provided you with the 'scientific' conclusions of this thread, truly Frank please review before you keep running about like a pms afflicted ferret.
When your through reviewing my words, then maybe come back and hear the words provided by some others and see if that helps any...k?

http://www.prx.org/pieces/90083-human-rights-not-just-for-humans-corporations

Piece Description


The courts have ruled that in the US, Corporations have the same rights as people. But do our communities and natural ecosystems have any rights? How about our bodies, right down to our cells and genetic material? Do they have rights? And how can we defend them? On this edition, Thomas Linzey and Katherine Davies argue that in order to defend our bodies and our environment, they must be given rights under the law.
Special Thanks to Pirate TV and the Sustainable Path Foundation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB8re_OIWrE
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Published on Mar 7, 2012

Expanding the rights of individuals, communities, and nature as a key strategy for sustainability. The rights over a person's genes, tissues, and environmental health is near to non-existent. Over 20% of human genome is patented by corporations and universities. Toxic trespass is a condition where human tissues contain unwanted toxins via unregulated food supply, water supply, air conditions and environmental factors. Lead in blood, mercury in hair, and contamination in mother's milk are examples of toxic trespass. As of now we do not have the right to a healthy environmental living condition. The current activism is not working to stop environmental problems. Although environmental law firms have judicial victories, most permits that were fought against end up being reestablished. Many established environmental issues should be seen as human rights issues.
 

DNAprotection

Well-Known Member
Your Bill doesn't address patenting of genetic material.

Try harder.
Oh Frank it is certainly not me who wants for lack of trying...my goodness we went over this issue any number of times in the evolution of this thread.
Once more for old times sake I guess won't hurt.
The patenting issue has been settled by the Supreme Court as of yet, and Congress works for those who are deemed working for 'national security' so there is no hope in needed laws arising from that feathered nest. Outside of a really good federal civil court challenge that could overturn current patent law (and none exists), the only way for 'the people' to respond in any meaningful way is at the ballot box and with respect to where possible legal reach exists in that area.
Does that about cover it for ya Frank or are you going to ask again after another ten pages or so?
Let's try and be real for a moment if that's possible in your world.
Frank you lost the vote (more than 4-1 now), you lost the 'debate' you thought you were having, you lost all credibility, you lost your dignity and you even lost your anonymity, the only thing I can think of you might yet still posses is your puberty, so for the life of me I can only conclude that you are still posting on this thread because you are exhibiting a veiled cry for help...in which case I'm here for ya Frank, you do count in this world and you do still have value even with all you seem to have lost...so turn that frown upside down and try to perceive this whole experience in the light that you have not lost it all but instead gained knowledge about yourself and the world you live in.




At last we are all nailed to the wood in some sense or some way Frank so what say we belt out a couple verses of this one together a'?



[video=youtube;jHPOzQzk9Qo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jHPOzQzk9Qo[/video]
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Oh Frank it is certainly not me who wants for lack of trying...my goodness we went over this issue any number of times in the evolution of this thread.
Once more for old times sake I guess won't hurt.
The patenting issue has been settled by the Supreme Court as of yet, and Congress works for those who are deemed working for 'national security' so there is no hope in needed laws arising from that feathered nest. Outside of a really good federal civil court challenge that could overturn current patent law (and none exists), the only way for 'the people' to respond in any meaningful way is at the ballot box and with respect to where possible legal reach exists in that area.
Does that about cover it for ya Frank or are you going to ask again after another ten pages or so?
Let's try and be real for a moment if that's possible in your world.
Frank you lost the vote (more than 4-1 now), you lost the 'debate' you thought you were having, you lost all credibility, you lost your dignity and you even lost your anonymity, the only thing I can think of you might yet still posses is your puberty, so for the life of me I can only conclude that you are still posting on this thread because you are exhibiting a veiled cry for help...in which case I'm here for ya Frank, you do count in this world and you do still have value even with all you seem to have lost...so turn that frown upside down and try to perceive this whole experience in the light that you have not lost it all but instead gained knowledge about yourself and the world you live in.




At last we are all nailed to the wood in some sense or some way Frank so what say we belt out a couple verses of this one together a'?



[video=youtube;jHPOzQzk9Qo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jHPOzQzk9Qo[/video]
Tl;dr

Good luck with your Bill buddy, honestly, I realised that if you succeed, more of your Biotech companies will move over here to take advantage of our highly educated workforce and low corporate tax rates.

Also we encourage scientific research, not stifle it.

So best of luck!

EDIT: I lost my anonymity? Pray good sir, do tell.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
Tl;dr

Good luck with your Bill buddy, honestly, I realised that if you succeed, more of your Biotech companies will move over here to take advantage of our highly educated workforce and low corporate tax rates.

Also we encourage scientific research, not stifle it.

So best of luck!

EDIT: I lost my anonymity? Pray good sir, do tell.
In Ireland? Bro that's fuckin halarious... Your country is BANKRUPT

Don't think the rest of the irish will like biotech companies fuckin around with their potatoes...
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
In Ireland? Bro that's fuckin halarious... Your country is BANKRUPT

Don't think the rest of the irish will like biotech companies fuckin around with their potatoes...
Yeah cos Pfizer doesn't have huge operations here or anything.

Our growth is expected to be 1.1% this year, not bad considering we've cut our deficit by over 80% in the last 4 years.

And we'd to accept the bailout cos our banks acted irresponsibly and we'd to bail them out by decree of the EU.

If you're gonna try insult someone, at least be accurate.

Was your teacher a kangaroo?
 

DNAprotection

Well-Known Member
Tl;dr

Good luck with your Bill buddy, honestly, I realised that if you succeed, more of your Biotech companies will move over here to take advantage of our highly educated workforce and low corporate tax rates.

Also we encourage scientific research, not stifle it.

So best of luck!

EDIT: I lost my anonymity? Pray good sir, do tell.
Frank everyone knows who you are now...why else would I always be addressing you by your real name?
Remember you said you dont need my help to look foolish and so I've been trying not to help, but you make it so hard...









Angry reaction to GM potatoes go-ahead


Friday, July 27, 2012
Top names from the food, restaurant, and tourism sectors have sharply criticised the Environmental Protection Agency for potentially destroying Ireland’s “clean, green” agricultural image by allowing GM potatoes to be grown in Ireland.


By Claire O’Sullivan, Rachel Power and Joe Dermody
The agency has given consent to the Department of Agriculture’s research arm, Teagasc, to carry out field trials on a genetically modified potato that could improve resistance to blight. The trial is to be carried out over the next four years, at Oak Park in Co Carlow, on an area up to two hectares.

Speaking as a member of Slow Food Ireland, the European Chef’s Association, Eurotoques, and the Taste Council, chef and owner of Ballymaloe House, Darina Allen, said she “felt so let down” by what she described as “a deeply regrettable decision”.

The Bridgestone Food Guides said “there is nothing in the decision for Ireland”, while the Restaurants Association said the decision “is not good” for the Irish food industry.

However, IFA potato committee chairman Thomas Carpenter said the added costs of spraying potatoes to protect them from blight, coupled with the lower crop yield, will see consumers having to pay more for potatoes this year.

Tommy Cooke, a Tipperary farmer, ICMSA council member, and Teagasc board member, said his and his neighbour’s potato crops have been decimated by the rain and the resulting blight.

“Commercial potato farmers are spraying on a weekly basis to combat the weather,” he said. “It is impossible to protect the crop from blight this year. If the country was depending only on that crop, we would be starving right now.”

However, Ms Allen said “the consequential risk for Ireland’s food business is much greater than any potential benefits in reducing crop costs”.

“Huge investments have been made in building the island’s reputation as a green, clean, good-food island by Fáilte Ireland, Aer Lingus, Bord Bia, Diageo, Irish Distillers, the Northern Ireland Tourist Board, and many others. This strategic benefit is being devalued and undermined by policies that pander to the owners of unproven, patented technologies that can cause unforeseen consequences to the environment and Ireland’s future as a pristine producer.”

John McKenna, publisher of the Bridgestone guides, also attacked the decision.

“What makes the food culture in Ireland special is its purity and distinctiveness. With GM foods there is no distinctiveness, no difference between a potato grown in Tipperary or Down or Iowa. I think that we have seen from the worldwide growing of GM foods that everything it promised has failed to come true.”

The GM potatoes were developed at Wageningen University in the Netherlands. No biotechnology or GM company was involved. The EPA gave the project the green light after examining more than 83 submissions from interested parties after Teagasc’s plans were submitted. They also consulted with the Food Safety Authority of Ireland and the Department of Agriculture.

A judicial review of the decision must be sought within three months.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Frank everyone knows who you are now...why else would I always be addressing you by your real name?
Remember you said you dont need my help to look foolish and so I've been trying not to help, but you make it so hard...









Angry reaction to GM potatoes go-ahead


Friday, July 27, 2012
Top names from the food, restaurant, and tourism sectors have sharply criticised the Environmental Protection Agency for potentially destroying Ireland’s “clean, green” agricultural image by allowing GM potatoes to be grown in Ireland.


By Claire O’Sullivan, Rachel Power and Joe Dermody
The agency has given consent to the Department of Agriculture’s research arm, Teagasc, to carry out field trials on a genetically modified potato that could improve resistance to blight. The trial is to be carried out over the next four years, at Oak Park in Co Carlow, on an area up to two hectares.

Speaking as a member of Slow Food Ireland, the European Chef’s Association, Eurotoques, and the Taste Council, chef and owner of Ballymaloe House, Darina Allen, said she “felt so let down” by what she described as “a deeply regrettable decision”.

The Bridgestone Food Guides said “there is nothing in the decision for Ireland”, while the Restaurants Association said the decision “is not good” for the Irish food industry.

However, IFA potato committee chairman Thomas Carpenter said the added costs of spraying potatoes to protect them from blight, coupled with the lower crop yield, will see consumers having to pay more for potatoes this year.

Tommy Cooke, a Tipperary farmer, ICMSA council member, and Teagasc board member, said his and his neighbour’s potato crops have been decimated by the rain and the resulting blight.

“Commercial potato farmers are spraying on a weekly basis to combat the weather,” he said. “It is impossible to protect the crop from blight this year. If the country was depending only on that crop, we would be starving right now.”

However, Ms Allen said “the consequential risk for Ireland’s food business is much greater than any potential benefits in reducing crop costs”.

“Huge investments have been made in building the island’s reputation as a green, clean, good-food island by Fáilte Ireland, Aer Lingus, Bord Bia, Diageo, Irish Distillers, the Northern Ireland Tourist Board, and many others. This strategic benefit is being devalued and undermined by policies that pander to the owners of unproven, patented technologies that can cause unforeseen consequences to the environment and Ireland’s future as a pristine producer.”

John McKenna, publisher of the Bridgestone guides, also attacked the decision.

“What makes the food culture in Ireland special is its purity and distinctiveness. With GM foods there is no distinctiveness, no difference between a potato grown in Tipperary or Down or Iowa. I think that we have seen from the worldwide growing of GM foods that everything it promised has failed to come true.”

The GM potatoes were developed at Wageningen University in the Netherlands. No biotechnology or GM company was involved. The EPA gave the project the green light after examining more than 83 submissions from interested parties after Teagasc’s plans were submitted. They also consulted with the Food Safety Authority of Ireland and the Department of Agriculture.

A judicial review of the decision must be sought within three months.
Wow, you're quoted a newspaper so unpopular, it's skimming bankruptcy.

Also, our Government approved the research.

Love you too ;)
 

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
This would be a really good thread for a mod to close. It's really gotten off course and the self-appointed voice of the "losing side" will not let it go and refuses to acknowledge truth when it is presented. With the permission of the OP I will PM a mod of this forum to close it.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
Before it's closed up - loved trading insults with you harrekin lets do it again soon... I don't take it heart hope you didn't...:mrgreen:
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
This would be a really good thread for a mod to close. It's really gotten off course and the self-appointed voice of the "losing side" will not let it go and refuses to acknowledge truth when it is presented. With the permission of the OP I will PM a mod of this forum to close it.
If the OP could actually address the points it would've been over a long time ago.

However he continues to decieve people with his spin and lies, and you suckers are taking it hook, line and sinker.

Some "academics" you douche canoes turned out to be, can't even check references or read a Bill before voting on a poll...
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Either way, I say Vote Yes on the DNA Protection Bill (AKA the "send well paid, skilled jobs out of California Bill")!
 

DNAprotection

Well-Known Member
If the OP could actually address the points it would've been over a long time ago.

However he continues to decieve people with his spin and lies, and you suckers are taking it hook, line and sinker.

Some "academics" you douche canoes turned out to be, can't even check references or read a Bill before voting on a poll...
Frank blaming your inadequacies on others will never get you across the finish line.
I haven't deceived anyone Frank and I answered every question that was put to me, even yours, in fact you never (still haven't) responded to the answers and then usually asked the identical questions soon after, almost like a drunk person would, so cheers...
Good luck Frank and truly I mean that, I wish you safe and meaningful travels and a happy healthy life.:peace:bongsmilie;-)
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
This would be a really good thread for a mod to close. It's really gotten off course and the self-appointed voice of the "losing side" will not let it go and refuses to acknowledge truth when it is presented. With the permission of the OP I will PM a mod of this forum to close it.
Dissenting opinion.
1) This is the Politics forum. "Went off course" is not imo an actionable criterion. If that were enforced, activity in this section would drop to near nothing.
2) I do not see there to be a clear winning/losing side. In my estimation, the general silliness is in balance.
3) I received no PM. Did you maneuver around me? Hmpf.

I see no good reason to close this thread that can be defined and applied to others in this section.
Were this thread in the "real" side of RIU, I could see that. But this is ... cn

 
If you think for one second that Monsanto doesn't have its eye on patenting marijuana genetics then you better read up on how they sue mom and pop farmers that have their corn crops cross bred because the neighbors use gmo strains. Nothing, nothing monsanto does is good for you, me, or this planet period. They are more evil than a wall street banker in heat.
 

DNAprotection

Well-Known Member
Dissenting opinion.
1) This is the Politics forum. "Went off course" is not imo an actionable criterion. If that were enforced, activity in this section would drop to near nothing.
2) I do not see there to be a clear winning/losing side. In my estimation, the general silliness is in balance.
3) I received no PM. Did you maneuver around me? Hmpf.

I see no good reason to close this thread that can be defined and applied to others in this section.
Were this thread in the "real" side of RIU, I could see that. But this is ... cn



Agreed cn<3



If you think for one second that Monsanto doesn't have its eye on patenting marijuana genetics then you better read up on how they sue mom and pop farmers that have their corn crops cross bred because the neighbors use gmo strains. Nothing, nothing monsanto does is good for you, me, or this planet period. They are more evil than a wall street banker in heat.







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