Most pathetic plant I've grown. Any tips?

Jimbo the Gael

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Those look suspiciously round to me. I think your plant might be sick. Like a bacteria or fungus. Couldn't tell you which one though.
 

Eugenios

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Those look suspiciously round to me. I think your plant might be sick. Like a bacteria or fungus. Couldn't tell you which one though.
Hello! I thought of what but if it was rust fungi, wouldn't have affected the smaller plant next to it as well? Pics below taken just now. The sick plant is looking worse and other one seems ok and has been treated exaxtly the same.20201218_215718.jpg20201218_215725.jpg
 

Jimbo the Gael

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The other plant might have fought it off. I'm assuming you don't wash your hands between plants, so it would definitely have been exposed if it were fungal. I'm thinking it's bacterial. Like bacterial leaf spot, or something. I've never seen it in cannabis though, so I'm not sure of the signs. Those just ook too circular to be mag def, and some of them are on the veins near the tip of the leaf. Cal def usually are more rust coloured, or is that just my computer screen?
 

Eugenios

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The other plant might have fought it off. I'm assuming you don't wash your hands between plants, so it would definitely have been exposed if it were fungal. I'm thinking it's bacterial. Like bacterial leaf spot, or something. I've never seen it in cannabis though, so I'm not sure of the signs. Those just ook too circular to be mag def, and some of them are on the veins near the tip of the leaf. Cal def usually are more rust coloured, or is that just my computer screen?
It's ok bro. It's just a plant. I almost chopped it down this morning but my brother told me to keep it. Maybe I will harvest 20gr rotten bud of it. Thanks for tuning in.
 

Kassiopeija

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The other plant might have fought it off
No, it's displaying the same problems, just not as bad as the other plant - burnt tips and shrivelled new growth....

@OP how do you measure the CalMag when you have no EC meter? U use tapwater? Lightmix is missing K much, if you overfeed CalMag + tapwater = K lock.
These pots are so big, would only feed tap + Grow 1ml/l WARM water (30°C) as it's organic.

thank me later lol...
 

Eugenios

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No, it's displaying the same problems, just not as bad as the other plant - burnt tips and shrivelled new growth....

@OP how do you measure the CalMag when you have no EC meter? U use tapwater? Lightmix is missing K much, if you overfeed CalMag + tapwater = K lock.
These pots are so big, would only feed tap + Grow 1ml/l WARM water (30°C) as it's organic.

thank me later lol...
Hello. I'm just using 1.5ml Calmag per lt of water like GH recommends. I'm using the "best" bottled water in my country, won over 20 awards. Why would you skip bloom nutes in early flowering though?20201218_234141.jpg20201218_234153.jpg
 

Kassiopeija

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Why would you skip bloom nutes in early flowering though?
Grow is a bloomnute (Fishmix is veg). Your plant is not budding out yet at all. In soil feedings need to be adjusted to what the plant needs. Your water is ok but together with CalMag its too much. CalMag is fertilizer as well, and needs to be brought at the same strength than the NPK feeds.

Say, how do you pH?
 

Eugenios

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Grow is a bloomnute (Fishmix is veg). Your plant is not budding out yet at all. In soil feedings need to be adjusted to what the plant needs. Your water is ok but together with CalMag its too much. CalMag is fertilizer as well, and needs to be brought at the same strength than the NPK feeds.

Say, how do you pH?
Alright, I will follow your advice. Should I flush first or just feed only BioGrow from now on?
Ph: I first add my nutes in the correct order, pour some of my mix into a small cup and drop some phDown (3-4 drops). Then I pour the mix from the cup into my mix. I pH to 6.2 - 6.5 the day before I water the plants because it always rises a little bit. From 6.2 it has gone to 6.7 in like 12 hours. On the day I'm supposed to water I pH AGAIN to around 6.2 and then it won't raise up again. Maybe to 6.3. So I have to adjust pH 2 days in a row to avoid pH fluctuations. Thanks for the help.
 

HolyAngel

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Maybe these will help
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The nutes have to be in balance as they can angtagonize the others. Like too much mag can lockout potassium which is what those pinholes look like, a potassium deficiency.
 

Kassiopeija

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Should I flush first or just feed only BioGrow from now on?
please no flushing, you need to stimulate bacterial growth so that the fertilizer can be fermented. no drain, it's organic.

BB Grow is derived from molasses, there is lots of sugar in it and this will nourish the MO's. It's high in K.
 

Eugenios

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please no flushing, you need to stimulate bacterial growth so that the fertilizer can be fermented. no drain, it's organic.

BB Grow is derived from molasses, there is lots of sugar in it and this will nourish the MO's. It's high in K.
Alright gotcha! The CalMag from GH is not organic. Do you think it has been killing all the bennies?
 

DaFreak

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I thought it was just another branded peat moss medium but it’s got nutes in it. Looks like you should have started in light mix for your seedling and then transplanted up with all mix once they were big enough instead. I hate using medium preloaded for these reasons.
 

Johiem

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This is why I grow near sterile DWC. I have no questions about what my girls are getting, where it is coming from, or how to help her heal. Harvested this one back in September. I threw my soil out into the flower beds and haven't looked back
 

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Eugenios

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This is why I grow near sterile DWC. I have no questions about what my girls are getting, where it is coming from, or how to help her heal. Harvested this one back in September. I threw my soil out into the flower beds and haven't looked back
Dude, there's no doubt that DWC is the superior way of growing but I have my growtent next to my bed LMAO! No way I will be having pumps making noise. I already sleep 3-4 hours a night because of the light. My goal is to go DWC/coco as well. For sure not soil anymore.
 
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