superstoner1
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the term dwc means deep water culture. it is designed so that the roots are constantly submerged in nute mix. adding a drip and pump will only cause added heat and potential for root rot.
my 3 stages of flower
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georgeforeman
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thanks for the info. So you use pondzyme instead of great white? Any there any other nutes/products your experimenting with?
anything you can add to the botanicare products you know of SS?? I hate fucking bugs!!!!! Wonder if you could do some type of flush then go back to the nutes without screwing things up?
superstoner1
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i hate those things. try the fly strips and put out small bowls of vinegar.
oceangreen
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hot black coffee in small pink bowls, have a bunch all around the room.
best remedy ever, and i have tried them all. trust me
best remedy ever, and i have tried them all. trust me
oceangreen
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almost there guys
OLD DUDE
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I went for almost two years without them and BAM, little bastards!! I have strips and vinager in the room, and catch a shit load of them, but it seems never ending! I'll put some coffee in there too, can't hurt! I'm waiting on a reply from Botanicare to see if they have any suggestions for additives!
Funny, I had a cup of coffee with about an inch left in it this morning and found a couple gnats in it
Funny, I had a cup of coffee with about an inch left in it this morning and found a couple gnats in it
oceangreen
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good too know, the coffee works.. i had an infestation a year ago.. i put like 10 coffee bowls in there, new ones every 2 days.. I wiped them out in 2 weeks....
I also had strips but the coffee was the key.
I also had strips but the coffee was the key.
oceangreen
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Ok guys, its up and running.. nice!
couple questions..
1. For the drain part from the totes(where part attaches to hose.. I am getting leaks. I epoxied a 19mm drain part. its not doing the job. What part should I get? Link?
2. I am using a Rio 5400 LPH pump(1400GPH). Its a tad larger than the one SS uses but I am running a tad more Pipe. Is it going to be ok?? I didn't think the return from the drain line would be so full. Its like a turned on hose...nice
3. LAST, but not least.. OK I am not liking the projected clean up In regards to the REZ drainage. I set up a drain system In the REZ by adding some pipe to the Built in Drainer that comes with the cooler. I am still left with some water at the bottom of the rez. What the hell do I do with it. Are you tellling me I have to disconnect all the hoses and take the REZ out to clean and drain. NO thank you! Even with draining out the REZ with a pump, there is water left....
Is that what you guys are dealing with???
MY idea is this.
I want to drill a 1/2 hole at the bottom floor of the REZ and add a 1/2 inch drain. Then I will drill below, under the floor and set up a on/off valve. and then a pipe from the valve to outside. I will also have a drain plug in the rez for added saftey
To me this way the whole rez will drain completely with no trace of water and i can just bring in my hose rinse and clean, and refill the REZ. This way I will never have to move it from its place EVER!
what do you guys think? OLD dude, SS?
Also what do you think of personal chiller for the system?
Cheers
couple questions..
1. For the drain part from the totes(where part attaches to hose.. I am getting leaks. I epoxied a 19mm drain part. its not doing the job. What part should I get? Link?
2. I am using a Rio 5400 LPH pump(1400GPH). Its a tad larger than the one SS uses but I am running a tad more Pipe. Is it going to be ok?? I didn't think the return from the drain line would be so full. Its like a turned on hose...nice
3. LAST, but not least.. OK I am not liking the projected clean up In regards to the REZ drainage. I set up a drain system In the REZ by adding some pipe to the Built in Drainer that comes with the cooler. I am still left with some water at the bottom of the rez. What the hell do I do with it. Are you tellling me I have to disconnect all the hoses and take the REZ out to clean and drain. NO thank you! Even with draining out the REZ with a pump, there is water left....
Is that what you guys are dealing with???
MY idea is this.
I want to drill a 1/2 hole at the bottom floor of the REZ and add a 1/2 inch drain. Then I will drill below, under the floor and set up a on/off valve. and then a pipe from the valve to outside. I will also have a drain plug in the rez for added saftey
To me this way the whole rez will drain completely with no trace of water and i can just bring in my hose rinse and clean, and refill the REZ. This way I will never have to move it from its place EVER!
what do you guys think? OLD dude, SS?
Also what do you think of personal chiller for the system?
Cheers
OLD DUDE
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1. I have never had one drop leak from my drains! What are you useing, post a pic of it!
2. Watch you res temps! Doubt you need a pump that big, but I'd it works and you temps are OK, then use it!
3. I soak and wash out all hoses and pipes, wash out the res in a bath tub every two runs(4 weeks)!
I would never drill holes in the res.
superstoner1
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i use ebb and flow drains. they are like a bulkhead with a barbed fitting on one end and have rubber gaskets.
thats a big pump, is it internal or external?
i can get it down to maybe a pint left in res using pump, i just have the water hose and turn it on to fill a little more and suck it out.
system looks good, man.
thats a big pump, is it internal or external?
i can get it down to maybe a pint left in res using pump, i just have the water hose and turn it on to fill a little more and suck it out.
system looks good, man.
oceangreen
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see post below
oceangreen
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- 1. I drilled a 3/4 inch hole and am using a 19mm hose fitting. Looks like a hose stopper but with the hole through it. Will post a pic shortly
2. Yes I will watch the rez temps, however, i have a 1/4 Chiller specifically just for this Rez. This is why i don't need to put any insulation on the pipes or worry about pumps making my rez temps go up. The only thing I am worried about is this. IS there such as thing as TOO MUCH FLOW to the sprayers? I did build the new sprayer manifolds that have 12 sprayers
3. Yes, I understand you do that every 4 weeks, and that is my problem. Detaching everything is very annoying and with small space is strenuous, moving that rez. There is a solution to it. And its better to really make this system easy as can be.
Thats to drill a 1/2 inch hole at the bottom of the Rez floor, add a rubber grommet and attach a drainage system with an on/off valve, that leading to wherever you want. If you cant drill a hole in your floor., place the rez on 2 sheets of .75 mdf. The pipe can then have space to go from the bottom and out the side where there will be an on off valve. ANd from that to the outside. ALso for added safety a drain plug.
Don't see why you are so worried about putting a hole in your rez. It for the better of the system. To clean all you need to do is add a hose adaptor to your facet head and attach a spray head to the end of you hose. You can simply keep your system as is and drain it completely with no trace of water and clean it properly with no water residue. rinse with water, soak bleach, run it through your system. You can even clean you totes in take your hose up there and clean, it will all drain back to the rez and into the drain, and out it goes...
thoughts? I just really see this as the missing key to the system. I did do this but with the built in drain that comes with cooler, added pipe to it. so i tested it and some water remained. I was puzzled what to do with it.. I couldn't add new water because it will dilute my new rez, and i could take it out, while in place. So i had to disconnect everything. move that bad boy to and rinse clean, lug it back in and hook up. took a while, and very unprofessional.
oceangreen
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1. can you show me the link to the bulkhead fittings? would rubber grommets work?
2. The pump is internal. I tried the external and the internal. I felt the external was a bit too mcuh for this set up. Maybe if there was 5 or 6 manifolds, I would go for the external.
Plus with the external it will be thought to remove the rez and clean it like you guys do. You would need to add a proper drain to the rez like I stated in the post above
3. Yes, I know what you mean with add more water to remove as much as possible, but there will always be some old solution left unless you keep adding water many times.. The issue is if there was a disease or some nasty stuff, it will still be there, because it hasnt been drained completely, only if you disconnect the rez and take out and clean it.
4. I also think the flower system has the same issue.. Adding a drain setup at the bottom of the rez. would make this so simple. nothing has to move ever.
Maybe I am making a big deal about the fact that there is some water left... after we drain... I think its an issue... I can be stubborn at times..
OLD DUDE
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Just don't think I would be comfortable not scrubbing with soap and a little bleach, but that's just me!! You are going to get some build up from nutes...... So IMO, you will, every when ever, tear it apart and scrub things!!
http://www.wormsway.com/detail.aspx?t=prod&sku=SFDF220
Thats is the drain I use, and I think it is similar to what SS uses! You can get them in different sizes to fit your drain hoses!
http://www.wormsway.com/detail.aspx?t=prod&sku=SFDF220
Thats is the drain I use, and I think it is similar to what SS uses! You can get them in different sizes to fit your drain hoses!
oceangreen
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That should work in regard to the drain fitting. Confirm SS?. Thats what i am saying, you will be able to scrub in place with a floor drain.when its empty just scrub, also with a aggressive spray head from your faucet hose, it can probably do the job with a hard massage spray setting and some soap.... You can also have the system running, and have you hose from the faucet running into the rez at the same time, while the drain is open... don't why i threw that option out... but just to show the capabilities of what you can do when you add a simple drain.
Guys please tell me if i am out of my mind, regarding the draining. I am convinced but don't want to do something stupid... I would say a grommet is the key to the rez drainer because there is no elevation. I dont know about your rez's but on mine, where the built in rez drainer is there is a crease. That would be a perfect placr to put the floor drain..
So should I down grade the pump to a smaller size?
oceangreen
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SS is that a cfl light from the ceiling for the clone system. If so how big and how many watts..
I got the big 45 watt cfl.. Is that too much. How much clearance do need above plants withe cfls..
Cheers
superstoner1
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it is a cfl in a round reflector. i normally dont use a dedicated light for cloner but i had a few new strains recently and i like the seedlings to have better light so i did a quick hang on that.
oceangreen
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No input on the drain idea?
Also I am still on a back and forth debate between T5 and MH..
I have 2 400 MH I can play with or I can build an T5 setup.
I see you have one t5 setup for each tote to better control lighting height due to different stages of growth.
Honestly I was thinking an 8 tube 4' HO T5... But you way I guess I'll make a light for every tote...
And then I gt the MH 400 which I can just throw up threw.
Choices choices.. Input?