my 3 stages of flower

cloneseed

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Hey what's up SS, I have been a loooong time lurker, since way before the old site went down. Seriously, THANK YOU for all of the info over the last year and a half or so! After a ton of reading and waiting for the right time, I finally have had the opportunity to start my own system.

Anyhow, I have 6 plants started from seed on week 2 of veg, in a strongbox vegging unit... they're out of control! I'm talking huge fan leaves everywhere, and they're shading each other quite a bit. I noticed your vegging plants definitely allow for more light penetration, do you clip or pinch off any leaves? Other threads I've read say to leave them alone, but they're all from soil growers, couldn't find any answers for this system.

Also, there was another thread on the old site about how many leaves you pinch off during flower... do you happen to still have the photos from that post? Would love to have that reference!

Again, thanks for all the info man.
 

SOMEBEECH

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so is having 170w t5 over each tote overkill?

Beech, so not a fan of the t5 ey?
IMO no such thing as overkill with fluros.
My T5HO is 200w 54w per bulb.



As far as 3phase here in the USA or where i live
you have to have 3phase on the house.And price of
a 3phase panel imo would not be feasible.Most 3 phase
is for Commercial buildings.I own a HVAC Bus. and have
alot of knowledge of electricity.Stay with the 240 r 220 is what
we have.


BEECH
 

SOMEBEECH

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To be honest i go from clone to 600mh for 2-3 weeks strain dependent
Then flower under 3k hps,but im doing RDWC.


BEECH
 

oceangreen

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IMO no such thing as overkill with fluros.
My T5HO is 200w 54w per bulb.



As far as 3phase here in the USA or where i live
you have to have 3phase on the house.And price of
a 3phase panel imo would not be feasible.Most 3 phase
is for Commercial buildings.I own a HVAC Bus. and have
alot of knowledge of electricity.Stay with the 240 r 220 is what
we have.


BEECH
yea, its 240v here.

Yea the voltage will always be the same. I just cant figure out, the difference between setting up my new breaker in 3 phase or single phase. so with 3 phase there is 12 wires going to room breaker, those wires are coming from 3 phase set up outside. each wire is hooked up to a certain size fuse. SO i guess the wire that i am using for dual light plug( 8 way contactor should be on) should be on a 40a fuse. but then I have 11 other wires that will not be in use..

I think with a 1 phase its 3 wires... from break outside to breaker in room.

the thing i still don't understand is great I have 40a fuse for one plug, but the wall plugs have a combined of 13-26a... I still dont get how that wall plug is bypassed and there is no overload on the socket fuses..
 

SOMEBEECH

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Over here you have to have a 3 Phase breaker,all legs are Hot.Also could have a wild leg,i.e. more volts then the other 2.
110 1hot 1neutral 1 ground.
220-2-110 1 ground
240-2-120 1 ground
If you have 12 wires thats 4 circuits,Sounds like you need to just keep it on 240v Or get a electrician.
ITS 3 wires on all of em 3phase all wires are HOT.....


BEECH
 

oceangreen

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yea ill have to. I am not good at the major electrical stuff. wish i was. will work on it. thanks for the heads up tough
 

oceangreen

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ok guys, regarding the t5 with harness"
somebeech, you asked if they were HO, no they are not, they are regular 14w t5's. But i prefer them over the HO. more surface area..

I asked around for you guys. I got contact info to the distrubeter in china, but you have to order like a minimum of 500. but it will be much cheaper..pm me is you want the distributer email. plus i think these will be a big hit in the states.. very surprized you don't have em. for my 3 t5's i used 36 bulbs.

These t5's a cool because you can set them up for side and back lighting...im thinking having a whole panel across the wall for back lighting and making a double faced panel for in between totes as well.

thoughts?

In other things.

I upgrades the drain system on the flwr systems.. pretty amazing...
 

oceangreen

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ok guys, I did some mods to the f system. I didn't like the drain setup.. I think you guys are getting the generalidea that I am so obsessed with drainage.. I don't know why.. But anyways here it is.. so smooth.

DenBosch Drain.jpg
 

oceangreen

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Make sure you have access to the nutes!!!! Are the orange thingies light proof??
yes, i have access to the nutes( usual cutout ss has) and I put insulation on the tubes... its just not done yet.. usually I put reflective insulation as the last thing.
I like the tubes better than the square gully.. better use of gravity and kinetic energy. the drain is pretty sick. I can just pull out the whole thing on its own when i dissasemble.
It like a 2 minute dis-assembly for the whole system.
 

superstoner1

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there is no possibility of even kicking mine, much less off. have had no leaks and it also comes apart in a few seconds. that protrusion would drive me insane.
 

oceangreen

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there is no possibility of even kicking mine, much less off. have had no leaks and it also comes apart in a few seconds. that protrusion would drive me insane.
its a few inches out.. got the space so it doesn't bother me. i like your drain as well. but this was easier to build and is more solid for my liking
 

OLD DUDE

Active Member
Unfortunately, I can't send PM's yet... was wondering if you guys had any input for me? :bigjoint:
Just experiment, if you have three plant of the same strain, leave one alone, trim the top fan leaves on, and trim the shit out of the third one! it's hard to tell a person what to do in this situation!! I give mine a pretty good trim with two weeks left in veg, three weeks into flower, and a touch up trim after week five in flower!
 
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