Abnjm
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I'm at the in-laws for Thanksgiving, and it just didn't seem right having my first cup of coffee this morning and not being in my grow room.
I miss them already......
Nirvana AK-48 600 Watt Ebb & Flow
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I miss them already......
Abnjm
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I tried to grow PPP and Snow White my first grow. The Snow White didn't produce very well, but I figured it was just the strain. My second grow was White Widow and PPP. The White Widow only produced one oz. It was then that I figured out the PPP was out growing the other plants and cutting their production. I only grow one strain at a time now...
Other folks can do multiple strains, but I think my lazy stomer mind lacks the IQ points to get it done right...
Abnjm
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I used Hydro my first grow and it was easier than I had expected. The folks at RIU gave me plenty of advice and kept me from screwing it up too bad. You'll get many opinions as to the best media, but once you get the chemistry down, hydro is very simple to maintain. COuple of tubs, couple of pumps, some nutes and some media and you are ready to rock!
I think the Bubbleheads have a nice system for the first-time hydro grower....
Good luck with your grow!
Abnjm
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I can't remember the brand, but it was some generic stuff (SunLeaves?)from Worm's Way. I bought two bricks with my original set up, and just used up the last of it for my 4th grow. I don't know that the brand makes a big difference if you properly pre-treat it. I soak mine in unsoftened water for a few days, changing the water regularly to clear excess sodium. Before I plant in it, I soak it in 5.8pH water, and then add light pH'd nutes. When I put the seedlings in the coco, the roots go crazy looking for the moisture and nutes.
My most recent seedlings are in new stuff my hydro shop sold me, and you are supposed to have to pre-treat it. I hope it works...
I'll get the brand information when I get home later this week.
Abnjm
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Looks like I know who to go to when I have genetics questions! And I have plenty......
The first question is.....
As you saw in my previous post, I want to get into more exotic strains. If you were starting your mom collection, which strain would you choose?
Thanks for the information!
Abnjm
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I'm using the following:
-Lumatek 600w / 120v Digital Ballast
-Hilux Grow AMH 600w conversion bulb - 55,000 Lumens
-Hilux Grow HPS 600w Lamp 90,000 Lumens
-Cool Junior Air-Cooled Reflector
I am now using a 2' x 4' Sun Hut tent....
I have the new 8 bulb T-5 (400'ish watts?) hanging in my veg tent, so it will be interesting to compare vegitative growth between the MH and T-5's.... I think I will do just as well with the T-5's because by properly scheduling, I can take 4 or 5 weeks to veg, and still keep to the same flowering cycle....
Good luck with your grow!
I'm still a noob, but I think 2 - 600w lights in a 5' x 10' area would rock! That is, if you can keep the temps down.
JN811
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Ya snow white is my smallest of the 7 plants right nowI tried to grow PPP and Snow White my first grow. The Snow White didn't produce very well, but I figured it was just the strain. My second grow was White Widow and PPP. The White Widow only produced one oz. It was then that I figured out the PPP was out growing the other plants and cutting their production. I only grow one strain at a time now...
Other folks can do multiple strains, but I think my lazy stomer mind lacks the IQ points to get it done right...
. It looks very nice though, how did it smoke? Im hoping quality makes up for quanity. Next time around I'm going for all one strain too. growing four diffrent kinds is kinda a pain in the ass....
Abnjm
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Sorry man. I was so excited for my first harvest, and so ripped because it was New Year's Eve that I didn't separate the Snow White from the PPP...Ya snow white is my smallest of the 7 plants right now
I DID separate the Nirvana White Widow on my second grow, and kinda forgot about it.... I remembered it about 3 months into the cure, and it was fantastic. More people have complimented me on the White Widow than any other strain....
Unfortunatley, my stash rarely lasts three months, and I'm just trying to make it to the next harvest before I run out and have to give money to the drug cartels...
I MAY have some leftovers by the time the AK-48 is ready to cut.....
wonderblunder
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The reason I ask the brand of coco is because all of the coco in my town in cut very fine..... Can't find any big fibers. The stuff I bought would wash right out of a net pot.........Guess I will have to order it......
Abnjm
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The Sunleaves coco had some big honkin chunks in it. Some were as big as dice! I can't remember the brand of the stuff my hydro shop sold me, but it came in three consistencies. Fine, medium, and rough. I'm out of town, but will send you the info when I get home. I got the medium, and it had lots of fine particles, and a few larger pieces.
wonderblunder
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I got Botanicare Coco Coir. I got a 5kg brick. Also bought a bag of soil just in case the Coco doesn't work. Got to love the in laws...... Mine are not fond of my medication.......
Abnjm
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Cool. I think you will be happy with the coco. It is great for root development, and is almost impossible to overwater. I'm flooding mine every 3 hours while the lights are on..... Keeps the roots cool, nutes fresh in the tray, and replaces all the oxygen to the roots.
Believe it or not, I LOVE my inlaws. They are great folks, but know nothing about my medication. That's why I take "walks" during the holidays...
wonderblunder
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I was thinking a drip system to start. My trays are only 4 inches deep...... My 7 gallon smart pots are 11 inches tall(still very low). Apparently this stuff I got is supposed to retain moisture like vermiculite which is exactly what I am not looking for.... Hydro store answer is buy perlite. I think I would rather switch coco though....... and maybe add perlite if neccesary. Glad you love your in-laws. I dont like mine..... They are very different than my family, having a hard time dealing with it......
Abnjm
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Cool. I've never seen anyone using a drip system on coco. Normally you see Drain to Waste or E & F. I'm looking forward to seeing your results!
wonderblunder
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It would be drain to waste in ebb and flow tables, but it would be dripped in. It all depends on what kind of medium I can get my hands on. COnsidering I have alaready bought soil and one kind of coco, I may not go buy a another kind for the same project. I may just work with what I got, there are alot of questions that will answer themselves in the nxt few weeks.
Abnjm
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I think you've found the perfect Weed Baron's Creed: "There are alot of questions that will answer themselves in the next few weeks".
That could describe every one of my grows...
Wow Abnjm, you flood your coco every three hours when the lights are on?
I know nothing about coco, but assumed it was closer to rockwool, in that it held a ton of moisture (which is why I went with hydroton, which you can flood as often as you want and not risk overwatering). Is it not like rockwool and I've been wrong this whole time?
Also, about things changing during a grow, you're not kidding - been tweaking my setup for the past few months, doubt I'll ever be completely "finished" doing that - there's always something that could be improved.
I know nothing about coco, but assumed it was closer to rockwool, in that it held a ton of moisture (which is why I went with hydroton, which you can flood as often as you want and not risk overwatering). Is it not like rockwool and I've been wrong this whole time?
Also, about things changing during a grow, you're not kidding - been tweaking my setup for the past few months, doubt I'll ever be completely "finished" doing that - there's always something that could be improved.
Abnjm
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Hi Bob,
I've got some coco and some hydroton in my tray. I flood the coco every 4 hours when the roots are just in the coco, and I start acceleating the floods when the roots hit the hydroton. It is very difficult to over-water with the stuff.
bigbuds4you
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Thanks for the reply !
Im on my way to a 600 grow ! I made a killer score today , like new 600 watt xtrasun ballast with an AC xtrasun reflector with a agro red bulb and Ostberg 6 in inline fan for $120.00 Cant wait to get this going . Im considering a hortilux super for vegging . Need to get the room started and vents ran. Hope they turn out close to what you have going . Looking good ! Im going to use one 600 with a light mover for my first grow. Hope i didnt highjack your post . Take Care !