#NRAlogic

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
You didn't answer my question so I am not answering yours

you asked a loaded question. i reject your presupposition.

Magazine limits shout "it's the gun's fault".

Do you support magazine limits for ALL civilians, like this guy here? cn

one rampage in tucson was stopped when the killer went to change mags.

several children in newtown lived because lanza had to change his mags.

do you disagree?
 

FootballFirst

Well-Known Member
i also forgot to mention, Buck's father stressed self sufficiency and not to depend on others because they are human and no matter how many good intentions they have, they will let you down, make mistakes, and always end up doing what is in their own best interest. his father counseled that humans are still human and power ultimately corrupts making a social utopia forever impossible.

he also kept telling buck that "governments can never, EVER, be trusted as every single one of them breaks down over time resulting in armed revolution or oppression." he was also rumoured to have said that "guns are the people's ultimate protection against the development of an oppressive government and that this period of tranquility and peace experienced within our country for the last 200+ years, is but a blink of the eye in history and that one century down the wrong path is more than enough to lead to said oppression and/or revolution."

he finished every lesson to young buck with a fervent saying, "no government has ever proven to be benevolent and it's not a question of 'if' but rather a question of 'when' the oppression will crush Americans."

he also had a tattoo on his arm of Teddy Roosevelt with the quotes, "the buck stops here" and "speak softly and carry a big stick."
 

Kite High

Well-Known Member
you asked a loaded question. i reject your presupposition.



one rampage in tucson was stopped when the killer went to change mags.

several children in newtown lived because lanza had to change his mags.

do you disagree?
ok ...I reject this stupid thread and line of thought...one star...unsubbed
 

FootballFirst

Well-Known Member
Bucks father was a self made man who came over as an immigrant with no money. he didn't feel that anyone owed him anything and felt that he needed to work harder than others to achieve success.

Buck's father believed there is a constant price to be paid for freedom. he felt it was not a one time payment like the blood spilled during the revolutionary war, but that the war was only a down payment on freedom that would require follow up payments of American blood in the form of it's forefather's children.

the price of freedom, he felt, was to be paid by every American of every age. He understood that some would pay by giving their lives for war and others would pay by their innocent blood being spilled. he understood that freedom is something that comes with the risk of death for him and his young son at the hands of someone who abused their freedoms to violate others or by war. however, because of the wonderful and rich opportunities America provides, he was willing to take that risk in order to create a better life for both he and young buck.

Bucks father understood that life was a risk and that nothing in life is guaranteed regardless of what the politicians might tell him.

young buck was last seen trying to give away his, his children's, and grand children's freedoms and opportunity in exchange for a temporary security that is far from guaranteed.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
you're not taking down any police forces, bear.

i know, rambo pretty much did it even without a gun until the end of the movie, but that was a fictional movie.
You missed my point. If you propose to restrict gun access by civilians, the only honest option is to restrict it to all civilians. The idea that police forces (excluding MPs) have a legitimate claim to more gun than their jurisdiction(s) will permit nonuniformed civilians is pervasive but inherently corrupt. My opinion. cn
 
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