osowhom
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that is what i am learning slowly but surely
OK, WHO HAS THE FATTEST BUDS AND USES BLOOM BOOST TO GET THERE
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jonnynobody
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The primary reason to avoid PK boosters is that most fertilizer companies use what's called "technical grade" fertlilizer. It's cheap. Dirt cheap. P and K by their nature are naturally contaminated with all sorts of heavy metals. They're filthy fucking elements. Now a good fertilizer company that knows what they're doing insists that their suppliers of raw elements that go into their bags of fertilizer contain zero heavy metals. Sure, it costs more to do this but it ensures the food and medicine you're growing with that fertilizer isn't contaminated with heavy metals that can have severe health consequences. And since we dry and smoke the flesh of the plants we're growing ensuring our base fertilizers are heavy metal free is probably the most important decision you will ever make in your garden. Keeping heavy metals out of your lungs is the primary benefit, but what also happens? Your pot burns better. It tastes better. It's not as harsh to smoke. It's downright more enjoyable, and a better quality medicine when it is free of all heavy metals.
When I started growing hydroponically I used General Hydroponic's flora series with their Koolbloom PK booster. The flowers were absolutely gorgeous. THC Bomb. And they were so harsh to smoke that the product was nearly unusable. It burned to a hard charcoal. Clean gray ash? Yeah, not even close. Every bowl had to be dug out with a paper clip because of the awful heavy metal contamination. The smoked scorched my throat. And this is something that most of us who have patronized a store front dispensary have experienced at one time or another. Tons of 'Dro grown pot that tastes like chemicals and is harsh as can be to smoke. But man it looked great in the jar at the dispensary. Even smelled amazing too! You can't smell or see heavy metals in the plant's tissue though can you? You will taste it though and you will feel it in your throat. You will see your bowl burn poorly to a hard charcoal. Those are the heavy metals contaminating your ash. Lovely eh?
When I tried Jack's 5-12-26 a couple years after my THC Bomb debacle I grew in the same water to waste hydro buckets, but ditched general hydroponic's fertilizer and omitted any use of any PK booster at all whatsoever. Just Jack's 5-12-26, epsom salt, and calcium nitrate PH adjusted to 5.8 at 1.6-1.8 EC. The strain was gg#4 grown under a single ended 600w HPS. I hit .75GPW and the pot tasted amazing! It burned beautifully to a clean gray ash. And it was an outright pleasure to enjoy. Then I switched to GH's maxi grow and bloom, because I thought cannabis specific fertilizer was going to make my pot better. For over a year I used maxi and could not figure out why my pot didn't taste as amazing as it did when I was using jack's 5-12-26. I asked around and got nowhere. I started reading and got somewhere. Heavy metal contamination in the fertilizer industry is pervasive and ugly. I learned that it is of paramount importance that you are using a professional grade fertilizer that is free of heavy metals, and that means purchasing from a reputable company that knows what they're doing. I switched my entire garden over to jack's about 10 weeks ago. I just harvested a blue dream grown under 360w Geyapex COB LED light, and had a chance to smoke 2 flowers that were dry enough to burn down yesterday. Oh my god I cannot tell you how relieved I was when I inhaled and tasted no chemical flavor. The smoke was smooth and flavorful. I attribute this to my choice in using a heavy metal free fertilizer. Jack's does use technical grade fertilizer, but they test all of their raw components for heavy metals to ensure they are free of any contamination. This means Jack's sources their raw ingredients from quality suppliers that remove those heavy metals, so they do not wind up in our food and medicine. Jack's does this, because jack's knows what they're doing.
I believe in using a balanced fertilizer from start to finish. I do not believe bloom boosters to be necessary. However, I also do not believe them to be harmful if sourced from a reputable company that ensures that extra P and K is 100% heavy metal free. And the problem is only a few companies are spending the extra money to do this. If you're going to experiment with P and K boosters buy it from a company like Jack's. At least then you have confidence knowing your P and K isn't loaded with disgusting heavy metals that will negatively impact your flavor, burn qualities, and ultimately your health.
Word to your mother homie
Source: https://www.health.state.mn.us/communities/environment/risk/studies/metals.html
When I started growing hydroponically I used General Hydroponic's flora series with their Koolbloom PK booster. The flowers were absolutely gorgeous. THC Bomb. And they were so harsh to smoke that the product was nearly unusable. It burned to a hard charcoal. Clean gray ash? Yeah, not even close. Every bowl had to be dug out with a paper clip because of the awful heavy metal contamination. The smoked scorched my throat. And this is something that most of us who have patronized a store front dispensary have experienced at one time or another. Tons of 'Dro grown pot that tastes like chemicals and is harsh as can be to smoke. But man it looked great in the jar at the dispensary. Even smelled amazing too! You can't smell or see heavy metals in the plant's tissue though can you? You will taste it though and you will feel it in your throat. You will see your bowl burn poorly to a hard charcoal. Those are the heavy metals contaminating your ash. Lovely eh?
When I tried Jack's 5-12-26 a couple years after my THC Bomb debacle I grew in the same water to waste hydro buckets, but ditched general hydroponic's fertilizer and omitted any use of any PK booster at all whatsoever. Just Jack's 5-12-26, epsom salt, and calcium nitrate PH adjusted to 5.8 at 1.6-1.8 EC. The strain was gg#4 grown under a single ended 600w HPS. I hit .75GPW and the pot tasted amazing! It burned beautifully to a clean gray ash. And it was an outright pleasure to enjoy. Then I switched to GH's maxi grow and bloom, because I thought cannabis specific fertilizer was going to make my pot better. For over a year I used maxi and could not figure out why my pot didn't taste as amazing as it did when I was using jack's 5-12-26. I asked around and got nowhere. I started reading and got somewhere. Heavy metal contamination in the fertilizer industry is pervasive and ugly. I learned that it is of paramount importance that you are using a professional grade fertilizer that is free of heavy metals, and that means purchasing from a reputable company that knows what they're doing. I switched my entire garden over to jack's about 10 weeks ago. I just harvested a blue dream grown under 360w Geyapex COB LED light, and had a chance to smoke 2 flowers that were dry enough to burn down yesterday. Oh my god I cannot tell you how relieved I was when I inhaled and tasted no chemical flavor. The smoke was smooth and flavorful. I attribute this to my choice in using a heavy metal free fertilizer. Jack's does use technical grade fertilizer, but they test all of their raw components for heavy metals to ensure they are free of any contamination. This means Jack's sources their raw ingredients from quality suppliers that remove those heavy metals, so they do not wind up in our food and medicine. Jack's does this, because jack's knows what they're doing.
I believe in using a balanced fertilizer from start to finish. I do not believe bloom boosters to be necessary. However, I also do not believe them to be harmful if sourced from a reputable company that ensures that extra P and K is 100% heavy metal free. And the problem is only a few companies are spending the extra money to do this. If you're going to experiment with P and K boosters buy it from a company like Jack's. At least then you have confidence knowing your P and K isn't loaded with disgusting heavy metals that will negatively impact your flavor, burn qualities, and ultimately your health.
Word to your mother homie
Source: https://www.health.state.mn.us/communities/environment/risk/studies/metals.html
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jonnynobody
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Here's one of my favorite quotes from the Minnesota Department of Health on heavy metals contamination in inorganic fertilizers:
"Federal statutes allow reclassified industrial wastes to be used in the manufacture of fertilizers, provided that such use constitutes “beneficial recycling,” and that the concentrations of hazardous constituents in the resulting fertilizers do not exceed the treatment standards specified for wastes (40 CFR 266.20)."
Yummy, right? Who doesn't want to stick that in their pipe and smoke it
"Federal statutes allow reclassified industrial wastes to be used in the manufacture of fertilizers, provided that such use constitutes “beneficial recycling,” and that the concentrations of hazardous constituents in the resulting fertilizers do not exceed the treatment standards specified for wastes (40 CFR 266.20)."
Yummy, right? Who doesn't want to stick that in their pipe and smoke it
jonnynobody
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Another awesome quote:
"In 1999 MDH conducted a screening evaluation of heavy metals in fertilizers at the request of the MDA. The results showed elevated levels of arsenic, lead, and cadmium in some fertilizer products -- primarily micronutrient fertilizers (products that contain iron, zinc, and other nutrients that are added to soil to promote plant growth). "
"In 1999 MDH conducted a screening evaluation of heavy metals in fertilizers at the request of the MDA. The results showed elevated levels of arsenic, lead, and cadmium in some fertilizer products -- primarily micronutrient fertilizers (products that contain iron, zinc, and other nutrients that are added to soil to promote plant growth). "
jonnynobody
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Anybody getting hungry for some hydroponic post waste recycled heavy metal contaminated fertilizer grown buds?
jonnynobody
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You were growing pot before I was even alive. That was back in the renegade days man. Fucker's would lock you up for life if caught. You're a straight OG homie
hydroScript.js
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Sour D...One plant
Week Two Flower Perfectly even canopy for a Sativa I trained the shit out of her...Hope she's not too bushy...I wanna add a booster recommendations?
Week Two Flower Perfectly even canopy for a Sativa I trained the shit out of her...Hope she's not too bushy...I wanna add a booster recommendations?
jonnynobody
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Jack's 10-30-20 blossom booster. Heavy metal free:
DARK BLUE BAG Jacks J.R. Peters Jack's Professional 10-30-20 Blossom Booster Fertilizer - 25lb Bag
High phosphorus formula used during periods of bud set to increase the number and size of blossoms. Great for vegetable production.
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jonnynobody
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She's gorgeous by the way! I haven't smoked any sour D in half a lifetime. It's some of the best tasting pot I've ever toked on. Nice work !
hotrodharley
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Bulb for proper perspective as far as cola size
jonnynobody
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That's the most ridiculously large bud I've ever seen. Epic!
jonnynobody
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Good god man look at that trichome development! Looks like a layer of fur it's so resinousCookie Breath #5. No bloom nutes at all. Dyna Gro Protekt, Grow and Foliage Pro all the way thru. Tastes great and less filling. Nice gray ashes
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V256.420
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Thanks J. Grown under a 600 watt Hortilux @ 660 watts..........................and no bloom food or boostersGood god man look at that trichome development! Looks like a layer of fur it's so resinous
Bakersfield
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Sounds similar to radioactive fly ash from coal fired power plants used as an additive to concrete, orAnybody getting hungry for some hydroponic post waste recycled heavy metal contaminated fertilizer grown buds?
the use of the byproduct of aluminum, fertilizer, and iron ore manufacture, fluorine.
Most PK boosters utilize 2 components to give that spike in P and K
Monoammonium Phospate MAP 12-61-0
Monopotassium Phosphate MKP 0-52-32
These can be purchased for pennies on the dollar of what the hydroponics industry will charge.
hydroScript.js
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I've just been feeding cal-mag and Flora part-3 Bloom.....
I'm in FOX Farm so I know it has N in it.....Every other feeding I add like 200PPM of micro.....which has some N in it and other micro-nutes...I ignore their recommendations of grow, micro and bloom for what do I need grow for if there' already N in the micro???
I just started doing that this week...first week I used just cal-mag micro and bloom of gh flora 3 part series...
I figure as I get deeper in flower instead of spreading money on a PK boast I'll just add more PK.....am I crazy for thinking that?
I'm in FOX Farm so I know it has N in it.....Every other feeding I add like 200PPM of micro.....which has some N in it and other micro-nutes...I ignore their recommendations of grow, micro and bloom for what do I need grow for if there' already N in the micro???
I just started doing that this week...first week I used just cal-mag micro and bloom of gh flora 3 part series...
I figure as I get deeper in flower instead of spreading money on a PK boast I'll just add more PK.....am I crazy for thinking that?
hydroScript.js
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Can I just ash my joint for potash? lol
NukaKola
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Bloom boosters, just like supplements, are unnecessary if you use full spectrum base nutrients.
All the additional supplements and boosters from flashy nutrient companies are just marketing gimmicks to make more $$.
It would be the equivalent of taking supplements on top of a full spectrum multi-vitamin. You would just be pissing out the excess and wasting money, unless it is a fat soluble vitamin which poses health risks when taken in excessive amounts.
Besides, the largest buds are usually fluffy, leafy, trichome lacking plants. I prefer dense, frosty buds with a low leaf to calyx ratio that makes trimming a breeze. In short, quality > quantity.
All the additional supplements and boosters from flashy nutrient companies are just marketing gimmicks to make more $$.
It would be the equivalent of taking supplements on top of a full spectrum multi-vitamin. You would just be pissing out the excess and wasting money, unless it is a fat soluble vitamin which poses health risks when taken in excessive amounts.
Besides, the largest buds are usually fluffy, leafy, trichome lacking plants. I prefer dense, frosty buds with a low leaf to calyx ratio that makes trimming a breeze. In short, quality > quantity.
Bakersfield
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Great looking nug, but frost is genetic and not determined by brand of fertilizer or whether or not someone uses a bloom booster.Thanks J. Grown under a 600 watt Hortilux @ 660 watts..........................and no bloom food or boosters
Bloom boosters can work - in the right hands, but there is a fine line between increased yield and decreased yield and quality.
Most growers should stick with a well rounded nute product or in the case of the OP an organic alternative.
jonnynobody
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I would ensure whoever you buy your MAP or MKP from tests for heavy metals.