Oregon OMMP and Growers.

MrMayhem1134

Well-Known Member
Hello everyone I hope I am allowed to ask a few questions if it is okay with the OP. I am 28 years old and am considering becoming a grower in the Portland area in about a year. I am currently saving along with my mother and brother who are also saving. My questions are:

How many plants can 1 person grow?
How much is a license to grow?
What would be an estimated start-up cost for three people to grow indoors in 1-2 bedrooms, including cost of setting up the room(s) and needed materials for plants including nutrients and all.

I know answers will vary as all grows are different but would like a harsh estimate so I know what I would be getting myself into. I have resesrched for a few years now, but I am always learning so I hope someone here can help me :). Thank you for reading!
 

Southerner

Well-Known Member
What I can tell you is that it is a very competitive market. If you already have experience growing at a decent scale indoors than at least you have a small head start. If you want to produce at a wholesale level, the license you need will depend on the size of the grow per sq/ft and not plant count. You're probably looking at one the micro canopy tier licenses for two bedrooms, which starts at about $1,000. Im not sure you can even do a commercial grow from inside your residence, but maybe someone around here will know. You will also need to comply with all the regulations of having the grow-- such as setting up video surveillance and having inspections done by the OLCC. You can do the research for what the gear and nutrients cost online, but you're going to need quite a lot of shit if you are starting up fresh. Im assuming you'd want to run about 6000w(6X1000w) per room, which will also require good ventilation and air cooling. An estimate off the top of the head would be $2000+ per room using HID lighting(not including adding A/C if you dont already have it in the rooms). If you have zero grow experience, it could take a couple of runs just to figure out what the hell you are doing as well as securing competitive genetics. From there you need to learn how to maximize your grams per watt. Any mistakes like letting a hermie slip, bugs, mold can all make your crop worthless.

I moved here almost 6 years ago and started growing medical as soon as I got settled. I got to the point where I was selling to dispensaries before all the rec licensesing and stuff started. For me it was more for fun and the joy of seeing your hard work being enjoyed by others, never something I have depended on to pay my bills. If I had wanted to pursue it as a career, I probably should have arrived about 6-10 more years earlier. Not here to crush your dreams, just saying that its something that you really have to have your shit down to be able to do and make good money. There are other opportunities to get into the industry as well, working at the clubs and stuff.

You can also find a normal job and just grow your own 4 plants and will have more than you can ever smoke if done right. Whatever you decide, I hope it works out!

Heres more specifics about the requirements:
https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2016R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/SB1598/Enrolled
 

MrMayhem1134

Well-Known Member
What I can tell you is that it is a very competitive market. If you already have experience growing at a decent scale indoors than at least you have a small head start. If you want to produce at a wholesale level, the license you need will depend on the size of the grow per sq/ft and not plant count. You're probably looking at one the micro canopy tier licenses for two bedrooms, which starts at about $1,000. Im not sure you can even do a commercial grow from inside your residence, but maybe someone around here will know. You will also need to comply with all the regulations of having the grow-- such as setting up video surveillance and having inspections done by the OLCC. You can do the research for what the gear and nutrients cost online, but you're going to need quite a lot of shit if you are starting up fresh. Im assuming you'd want to run about 6000w(6X1000w) per room, which will also require good ventilation and air cooling. An estimate off the top of the head would be $2000+ per room using HID lighting(not including adding A/C if you dont already have it in the rooms). If you have zero grow experience, it could take a couple of runs just to figure out what the hell you are doing as well as securing competitive genetics. From there you need to learn how to maximize your grams per watt. Any mistakes like letting a hermie slip, bugs, mold can all make your crop worthless.

I moved here almost 6 years ago and started growing medical as soon as I got settled. I got to the point where I was selling to dispensaries before all the rec licensesing and stuff started. For me it was more for fun and the joy of seeing your hard work being enjoyed by others, never something I have depended on to pay my bills. If I had wanted to pursue it as a career, I probably should have arrived about 6-10 more years earlier. Not here to crush your dreams, just saying that its something that you really have to have your shit down to be able to do and make good money. There are other opportunities to get into the industry as well, working at the clubs and stuff.

You can also find a normal job and just grow your own 4 plants and will have more than you can ever smoke if done right. Whatever you decide, I hope it works out!
Thanks for the reply Southerner! I do have a small amount of experience growing, never flowered but I have vegged a few times just to identify pistols/pollen sacs, get a feel for mixing soil, planting seeds properly, and topping. I tried to clone once and did not use a rooting gel or have much knowledge of the process or resources to gain additional information as I do now so it wasn't successful. I have been reading up a lot on it and feel more confident going forward. I also have a few solid sites for seeds as well as possibly visiting some of my family in Cali for seeds/clones, but I don't wanna bank on this as I haven't seen them in a while. I have a good idea of what kinda pots/bags, soil, trays for cloning, spray bottles, water bottles, etc. that I want to use my biggest concerns are lighting, A/C and Ventilation. I don't know the size of the area or how many rooms it will be until I actually get out there so gonna wait until I know to get lights, ventilation, and A/C if needed.

For the micro license, If I go that route, can you grow as many plants as you feel comfortable fitting in that square feet or is there a limit for wholesale? Also I don't know much of the laws so thanks for the link :), but I worked at McDonald's and was required to study new programs, sometimes overnight or in a few days, such as the McCafe program before it was released and all necessary procedures and cleaning so it hopefully won't be too hard to study up in the next year.

As for the competitive aspect I understand I will have to grow for a couple years to get the feel for my set-up and make bud dispensarys want to buy. The only thing I can thing of to help this is to grow the best I plants I can and source popular strains from around Oregon and strains not many people, if any, will have.

I am by no means saying that I will have success or that I am an expert or have all the answers, merely explaining the knowledge I do have :). I understand the industry that I will be getting myself into and I appreciate you being blunt and straight to the point.
 

Isayno

Member
Hello everyone I hope I am allowed to ask a few questions if it is okay with the OP. I am 28 years old and am considering becoming a grower in the Portland area in about a year. I am currently saving along with my mother and brother who are also saving. My questions are:

How many plants can 1 person grow?
How much is a license to grow?
What would be an estimated start-up cost for three people to grow indoors in 1-2 bedrooms, including cost of setting up the room(s) and needed materials for plants including nutrients and all.

I know answers will vary as all grows are different but would like a harsh estimate so I know what I would be getting myself into. I have resesrched for a few years now, but I am always learning so I hope someone here can help me :). Thank you for reading!
Where to start. go to the OLCC webpage to look up licence costs and what that entails. your rec grow cannot be in your primary residence. connected garage, bedrooms etc. now a shed in the backyard for example is another story. or a non attached garage.

Start up costs are going to depend on you. Do you want to save money on the start up and pay more for elec? go HID lighting. more expensive is going to be LED at the start but your power usage will be less. depending on the canopy size your nutes and medium will depend. Hydro or soil? each has its own pros and cons and costs. not an easy question to answer. i would say if you are trying to grow in 500 sq feet you are looking at 2-5 grand just for your equipment.
 

MrMayhem1134

Well-Known Member
Where to start. go to the OLCC webpage to look up licence costs and what that entails. your rec grow cannot be in your primary residence. connected garage, bedrooms etc. now a shed in the backyard for example is another story. or a non attached garage.

Start up costs are going to depend on you. Do you want to save money on the start up and pay more for elec? go HID lighting. more expensive is going to be LED at the start but your power usage will be less. depending on the canopy size your nutes and medium will depend. Hydro or soil? each has its own pros and cons and costs. not an easy question to answer. i would say if you are trying to grow in 500 sq feet you are looking at 2-5 grand just for your equipment.
The amount i've learned since posting that post is staggering, could answer them myself now lol. I like the idea of LED's but i'm afraid that the cost will be too high to go strictly LED. The news about growing where you live is unfortunate and home depots sheds are fairly expensive for a start up. I am wanting to do a flood and drain hydroponics system in coco as the medium. I am also concerned about the culture in Portland as I have read news online about it not being the most welcoming to African Americans, I am part African American, including a lawsuit in 2011 filed by a few employees against a company for discrimination. I guess I won't really know unless I visit first before moving because the internet isn't always the most reliable source of information. So without a micro grower license I would be limited to the 4-6 plant count depending on if i'm rec or medical? If I become a caretaker and grow for up to 5 patients can that be done at my primary residence? Sorry for all the questions :).
 

stsin

Well-Known Member
The amount i've learned since posting that post is staggering, could answer them myself now lol. I like the idea of LED's but i'm afraid that the cost will be too high to go strictly LED. The news about growing where you live is unfortunate and home depots sheds are fairly expensive for a start up. I am wanting to do a flood and drain hydroponics system in coco as the medium. I am also concerned about the culture in Portland as I have read news online about it not being the most welcoming to African Americans, I am part African American, including a lawsuit in 2011 filed by a few employees against a company for discrimination. I guess I won't really know unless I visit first before moving because the internet isn't always the most reliable source of information. So without a micro grower license I would be limited to the 4-6 plant count depending on if i'm rec or medical? If I become a caretaker and grow for up to 5 patients can that be done at my primary residence? Sorry for all the questions :).
Note: without a license, you are limited to 4 plants PER HOUSEHOLD recreationally, and then as a designated grower or a patient growing for themselves (not caregiver) you can have an additional 6 mature plants and 12 immature plants. You're also limited to possessing (at home) recreationally 8 ounces of processed cannabis PER ADULT 21+ in the household (there are other limits for edibles and hash), medically you're limited as a patient to possessing 1.5 pounds. As a grower you're limited to 6 pounds per plant you're growing indoors (36lbs) or 12 pounds per plant you're growing outdoors (72lbs). If it's at all a possibility, I'd suggest being a grower for yourself and gardening outdoors where the sunlight is free. However, anywhere remotely close to portland that isn't always a possibility as density equals a higher chance of theft.

As far as your race goes, sadly in 2017 the list of places that would qualify as welcoming to AAs is shockingly small. Portland has a lot of people with good hearts, but it also has a ton of idiots. Toss in that the pacific NW is one of the whiter parts of the country (portland more than seattle), and that it was a neo nazi area welcoming area in the 80s and you have some reason to be concerned... it's improved (largely) since then, but there are still far too many skinhead style people for my taste (e.g. it still isn't the liberal utopia one would hope...) The more urban areas of oregon are (by and large) more multi cultural, the rural east and south are less so (not sure about the coast.) Portland is making progress, look around and see how the feel is to you, the NE is the least white dominated if memory serves, but really... it's not an eastern city.
 

ky farmer

Well-Known Member
I NEED SOME HELP PLEASE Iam looking for a OREGON STRAIN that is being sold even in the pot shops in OREGON it is called PINKLEBERRY if any one can buy me a pack of that PINKLEBERRY seeds it sure as hell would make my day.if any one can help me please pm me and I will send cash to get them beans.thank you for any help you can give me.I live in ky.PLEASE PM ME IF YOU CAN HELP a fellow grower out here.
 

Dawgfunk

Well-Known Member
Cmon, mother nature...hate to be callin you out like this cuz I know you’re crushin it and just doin your job, but why you gotta go knockin over my big plants out the pot and flooding out all my babies? Cmon now...oh fuck...I forgot we’re in Oregon...got spoiled last year. Thanks again,
WhatDFunk
 

olaf687

Well-Known Member
Medical marijuana grower for 2 patients in southern oregon Cave Junction. I'm sticking to 12 plant limit so I don't have to have inspectors hassle me. I have 12 plants growing in a greenhouse that's partially complete. We have 2 space queens, 2 Afghan Kush, 2 purple kush, 2 herijuna, 2 kosher kush, and 2 trainwrecks in 30 gallon fabric pots!
 

olaf687

Well-Known Member
Just thought id make a thread for all of us Oregon medical marijuana patients and growers a like or soon to be patients. If any one needs info on how to get a card in Oregon or where to go just ask. any and all can post pics up of their plants , just talk, u know make it a good thread if we can. Also mabye why and how long u have had your card.

I have had mine for about a year now. i got it mainly for severe back pain. i was in an auto accident and broke my lower back in 2 places. i also have it for Insomnia, it helps me eat. and makes me all around a much happier person. i love indica dom strains and a weed that makes me couch locked and sleepy. at the time i am not growing for myself becasue i dont have outdoor property so i got a grower for the summer. i do do indoor for winter though. my last journal is in my link below i grew out 2 shishkaberry wich by the way is now my favorite strain. i have grown big sin, blue moon, mcpurple bubba kush, and a few bag seed in the past. im not the best grower but i can grow good enought to supply myself. i am however getting better and better every grow. my first grow was about 1 and a half ozs from 2 plants. my last harvest was 7 ozs from 2 plants so indded i am much better and learning more and more.

so to all who want to post , talk share pics, and what not feel free, i hope i didnt just make a dead thread.:-P

here is a few pics of my shishkaberry before harvest and after
I'm currently growing now and also have bad insomnia so really like couch lock stoney indicas. i have 2-3 months left till harvest, do you know any good dispensaries or farms in mean time that actually sell sleepy bud here in southern oregon? i have been searching for a year and kind find a late cut indica that knocks me out like the old times. I'm not getting very good sleep at all with the early cut stuff i get from dispensaries. it's slowly driving me insane!
 

nativemeds

New Member
Wow. Greeti gs hailling from salem i have my card couple years. Recently movi g closer to OHSU has placed me with No grower. Meds are only reason i am here. So much going on with program its extreme to comprehend. Anyway. Im new to mm world and i enjoyed readinh the post. Thanks for good thoughts. Onward with me plight. Latet peeps.
 

nativemeds

New Member
I'm on the edge of beaverton/hillsboro here...

I've been closet growing on and off for 20 years, just legal for the last year. Now that I'm legal I've been getting a bit carried away. I have around 10kw but I can only run 2 atm, I need more gear to handle the heat and humidity, and am still short some of the essentials to switch over to hydro to really make running all that all worthwhile.

No shortage of bud here any more though, that's sure nice...

I actually should take on a patient, I could use help with it.
I am a patient. Can be of some help. Maybe we could chat ? Please let me know. I am new here but had my card for a couple yrs.
 

nativemeds

New Member
Oregon Peeps. Greetins from our wonderfull capital city. Moved here 4 yrs back. Recently i seen a post, with heavy words regarding Citurus- Lemon Very strong smelp. EXACTLY what i found is a traight, in Flower. Citrus. Allows me to Eat Food !!! Major hit n miss with obtaining. Well over a year since last. Other flowers do have beautifull triaghts. At this point, all i have is memories and a cliffs edge. Kinda one of those, " defination of insanity". Couple yrs. Of asking. Seeking. Past 48 hours, ive de ided to Beg for help. I hope i can achieve. Never have.
Obviously im doing something wrong. Its ben SO long, i would half to Learn, how to complete a back alley scenerio. No. Not what wanted. Life is. Enjoying Life much as possable, IF, this is what MUST occur, for a " Simple, Normal every day Life", either i do it, or i face the alternative. Dont want alternitive.
ZERO FOOD INTAKE. Bafflled, applogies. Not pitty pot. Facts. Indeed i find lemon aid, in lemons. However, gotta have lemons first. Wowww. Heavy n true. Truging on like always. Later peeps.
 
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