Pandemic 2020

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CunningCanuk

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"Chinese researchers found that people infected with Delta carry 1,260 times more virus in their noses compared with the original version of the coronavirus. Some U.S. research suggests that the "viral load" in vaccinated individuals who become infected with Delta is on par with those who are unvaccinated, but more research is needed".

"While the original coronavirus took up to seven days to cause symptoms, Delta can cause symptoms two to three days faster, giving the immune system less time to respond and mount a defense. Delta also appears to be mutating further, with reports emerging of a "Delta Plus" variant, a sub-lineage that carries an additional mutation that has been shown to evade immune protection".

The Lambda variant has attracted attention as a potential new threat. But this version of the coronavirus, first identified in Peru in December, may be receding, several infectious disease experts told Reuters.

The WHO classifies Lambda as a variant of interest, meaning it carries mutations suspected of causing a change in transmissibility or causing more severe disease, but it is still under investigation. Lab studies show it has mutations that resist vaccine-induced antibodies.

Dr. Eric Topol, a professor of molecular medicine and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute in La Jolla, California, said the percentage of new Lambda cases reported to GISAID, a database that tracks SARS-CoV-2 variants, has been dropping, a sign that the variant is waning.

"In a recent call with the CDC, disease experts said Lambda did not appear to be causing increased transmissibility, and vaccines appear to be holding up well against it, said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious diseases expert at Vanderbilt University Medical Center who attended the discussion.

B.1.621 - ONE TO WATCH

The B.1.621 variant, which first arose in Colombia in January, where it caused a major outbreak, has yet to earn a Greek letter name.

The European Center for Disease Prevention and Control has listed it as a variant of interest, while Public Health England describes B.1.621 as a variant under investigation. It carries several key mutations, including E484K, N501Y and D614G, that have been linked with increased transmissibility and reduced immune protection. So far, there have been 37 likely and confirmed cases in the UK, according to a recent government report, and the variant has been identified in a number of patients in Florida".

"Even so, a key issue is that the current vaccines block severe disease but do not prevent infection, said Dr. Gregory Poland, a vaccine scientist at the Mayo Clinic. That is because the virus is still capable of replicating in the nose, even among vaccinated people, who can then transmit the disease through tiny, aerosolized droplets.

To defeat SARS-CoV-2, he said, will likely require a new generation of vaccines that also block transmission. Until then, the world will remain vulnerable to the rise of new coronavirus variants, according to Poland and other experts".
 

Budley Doright

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Because if someone calls anyone stupid and deserving of death for being skeptical I will most certainly speak my mind every time, there's people advocating a no shot no service policy at hospitals in this thread, if you condone this or the general narrative than that is my issue. Not safe and effective vaccines. Toxic shit boys
Actually I don’t think any services should be withheld at a hospital but if the shit hits the fan and choices need to be made then it is what it is and vaccinated folks have a better survival rate. I CONDONE taking the vaccine as the advice is (science and medical) it helps. To pull bullshit, cherry picked “studies” up and post them is dangerous and the fight back is somewhat warranted IMO.
 

CunningCanuk

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To pull bullshit, cherry picked “studies” up and post them is dangerous and the fight back is somewhat warranted IMO.
They clutch their pearls when you wish death on them even though their ignorance has probably killed dozens of others.

I find the word “retard” offensive but I’ve come to accept it as a fitting description of these people. Perhaps even an understatement.
 

Budley Doright

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They clutch their pearls when you wish death on them even though their ignorance has probably killed dozens of others.

I find the word “retard” offensive but I’ve come to accept it as a fitting description of these people. Perhaps even an understatement.
Ya I try not to use that term ...... unfortunately I’ve used it on RIU a few times :(.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Actually I don’t think any services should be withheld at a hospital but if the shit hits the fan and choices need to be made then it is what it is and vaccinated folks have a better survival rate. I CONDONE taking the vaccine as the advice is (science and medical) it helps. To pull bullshit, cherry picked “studies” up and post them is dangerous and the fight back is somewhat warranted IMO.
The way I see it, most of the unvaxxed in Canada are younger working people and students, hence the lower vaxx rates out west and in Ontario and high vaxx rates in the Maritimes with an older demographic. Experts expect the mRNA vaccines or one of them to come out of EUA in early September in the USA and Canada, this will lead to school college and employer mandates. Since most of the unvaxxed adults are either students or working, I expect the vaxx rate to go up considerably by the end of October.

There will be plenty of howling and complaining and relief among some of the unvaxxed, they can say they were made to do it, when they really wanted to anyway. From what we've seen so far, I expect very high compliance with private and government mandates.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ya I try not to use that term ...... unfortunately I’ve used it on RIU a few times :(.
Emotionally and socially retarded yes, intellectually impaired to a severe degree no. Some fuckers are just plain stupid though, be it through lack of brains or having the one's they already have washed and rinsed.
 

UncleBuck

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I can't be responsible for anyone elses life or choices beyond my home. Call it a death cult ? I retort to the fear of death cult. We all die no matter what you do, it's the only thing promised, stop playing god.

Read some history, they used to bury unwanted children in tribes, now we vacuum them out and incinerate them......I suppose were much better off that way eh? Instead of axing the infirm at the back of the pack and leaving them to the soil, we ship grandma to a nursing home and visit once a month and get mad when she has shit in her pants because the nurse doesn't treat her "the way you would" oh how we have elevated ourselves into righteousness .

Noones right or wrong it's just who the majority is and I'll admit, the majority has spoken so come murder me for not taking your vaccine....I mean death is the only right for infidels. Unless their infidels are different from yours, of course than you can kill them as a savior to their "victims". Oh America, the land of fighting for others rights, we have such a great history of respecting other people's rights if you look back on humanity, don't we? What group of righteous individuals that care for everyone equally are you referring too? What cave are they hiding in?

white knights with no more credibility on the subject than the people your arguing with. I say this because comprehension is the deciding factor between understanding science and not, merely regurgitating information does nothing. Doctors recommended alcohol and oxycontin as treatments within the last 100 years.

Forget lemmings, were fixing to evolve into salmon with the intelligence available here.

I can't imagine living the narrow minded life you have, settle it with a referendum vote and get into your beloved democracy, if the majority votes for mandated vaccines than so be it. Otherwise your spouting off like a broken water main and Pfizer wouldn't let any of this toxic shit even play in a commercial.

Bring it on bitches. I believe your vaccine works, and I don't think there's a conspiracy, just a willfully ignorant mass of individuals seizing opportunities to redirect their own agendas and playing fast and loose with the very divisive narrative at stake.

at the least my biggest concern is the populations will to impose things into my body against my will because it serves them better, this right to my body's autonomy is what protects you from rape and slavery.

They came for the people with glasses, I had none. They came for the people with different skin. I wasn't one of them. They came for the people with red hair, Phew. But what do you do when theirs noone to fight for you and they come for you? And I don't mean the doctors, I mean you pro Vax fuckin schmucks with a toxic narrative.

Please if there's an epidemiologist in the forum's explain the need for vaccinating healthy people, only immune compromised folks or otherwise vulnerable would be candidates, if I get the virus and build an immunity I am just as protected and if you argue this with, "well you will take up ICU space". than let's stop extreme sports get rid of booze and stop grow ops because, the sports use ICUs for dumb stunts, alcohol kills everyday, and your grow op could burn my house down. Haven't you considered your own impact?! How dare you think your medicine is more important than my safety. The fuckin narrative changes but the mindset remains, how do you suppose Hitler got the support he did? He wasn't a one man Army. This all treads dangerous water and allowing people freedom of choice is much simpler.

Do you want a dictatorship? Cause this is how you get a dictatorship.
You whiny stupid bitch
 
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