Pandemic 2020

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DIY-HP-LED

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The GOP here have no problem killing kids to get what they want.
One day those kids might kill them, when they get to the polls. Every election cycle the electorate changes a bit as new voters come online and old (mostly conservatives) die, covid has accelerated the process and cost the GOP support among seniors and patriots. You could lose the house next year and that would be very bad with the clowns they have running the GOP now. On the upside it looks like a half dozen of them might be expelled from the house and perhaps go to prison for insurrection. We will see what Donald does to them on the way down, right now he's fucking them up and vacuuming up all the small donor money the house candidates need for 2022.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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What about their FREEDUMB! They have a right to expose other people to a deadly disease according to some people. Some people believe they should be still working I suppose...
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Sativied

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Many places in Europe like Austria have a low vaxx rate, particularly among the young.
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Except for Austria the countries in that graph have a fairly high vaccination rate though. NL 85%. Though Germany and Italy slacking too.

There are no major anti-lockdown protests in the Netherlands, despite what the sensational media wants to imply worldwide by copying each other. Heck it's not even a real lockdown, again. Just hooligans and bored kids using it as an excuse to riot (most in those riots are under 18, some as young as 13-14).

In a previous post I said we broke a record by hitting 12k daily infections. It reached 24k a few days ago, around 20k now.

Even without the absolute numbers, look at the graph over the entire pandemic:
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IC occupancy:
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No mask and social distancing for past 3-4 months, while our neighbors in Germany did have those measures all summer. The difference is their latest wave started later but is expected to get at least as bad. It appears social distancing and masks, especially in this season, slow the spread but none of it will stop the inevitable: everyone will get infected eventually. If you can't wait any longer, come to NL and visit an infectionparty (yes we glue words together into new words endlessly, like oneandahalfmetersociety or tentslut). Infectionparty is exactly what you think it is. Yes the race for the most idiotic population is still on!
 

Fogdog

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What's he freaking out about? I'm lazy.
The guy doing the interview pointed out that Fox has a fairly rigorous vaccination or test policy. He the Fox talking head why he is OK with his own company's policy yet excoriates Biden's policy even though it is less stringent. The guy lost it and started berating the interviewer because Fox is #1 and Mediaite is insignificant in size.
 

CunningCanuk

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The guy doing the interview pointed out that Fox has a fairly rigorous vaccination or test policy. He the Fox talking head why he is OK with his own company's policy yet excoriates Biden's policy even though it is less stringent. The guy lost it and started berating the interviewer because Fox is #1 and Mediaite is insignificant in size.
Thanks a lot. Now I have to watch it too.
 

Fogdog

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Except for Austria the countries in that graph have a fairly high vaccination rate though. NL 85%. Though Germany and Italy slacking too.

There are no major anti-lockdown protests in the Netherlands, despite what the sensational media wants to imply worldwide by copying each other. Heck it's not even a real lockdown, again. Just hooligans and bored kids using it as an excuse to riot (most in those riots are under 18, some as young as 13-14).

In a previous post I said we broke a record by hitting 12k daily infections. It reached 24k a few days ago, around 20k now.

Even without the absolute numbers, look at the graph over the entire pandemic:
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IC occupancy:
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No mask and social distancing for past 3-4 months, while our neighbors in Germany did have those measures all summer. The difference is their latest wave started later but is expected to get at least as bad. It appears social distancing and masks, especially in this season, slow the spread but none of it will stop the inevitable: everyone will get infected eventually. If you can't wait any longer, come to NL and visit an infectionparty (yes we glue words together into new words endlessly, like oneandahalfmetersociety or tentslut). Infectionparty is exactly what you think it is. Yes the race for the most idiotic population is still on!
Thanks for the update and perspective. With 85% or so vaccinated, I was of the opinion that it wouldn't take long for the remaining unvaccinated to either get sick and die or get better and be immune. If so, we are just a few months away from herd immunity. These late surges make me wonder if what we are seeing is unvaccinated people getting re-infected. If so, it's never going to end.
 
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Dr.Amber Trichome

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Thanks for the update and perspective. With 85% or so vaccinated, I was of the opinion that it wouldn't take long for the remaining unvaccinated to either get sick and die or get better and be immune. If so, we are just a few months away from herd immunity. These late surges make me wonder if what we are seeing is unvaccinated people getting re-infected. If so, it's never going to end.
Also the vaccinated losing protection. That’s why it’s so important for everyone who is in the 6 month from last shot to get Boosted. I got Boosted Sat at about 8 months since last shot. 6 months is all you need.
i really felt this booster kick in so pretty sure I have
Some good antibodies now . Pretty stoked about it.
 

Fogdog

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Also the vaccinated losing protection. That’s why it’s so important for everyone who is in the 6 month from last shot to get Boosted. I got Boosted Sat at about 8 months since last shot. 6 months is all you need.
i really felt this booster kick in so pretty sure I have
Some good antibodies now . Pretty stoked about it.
As far as boosters go, everybody that I know were vaxxed last spring are getting the booster. I'm scheduled for it next week.
 

Sativied

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Thanks for the update and perspective. With 85% or so vaccinated, I was of the opinion that it wouldn't take long for the remaining unvaccinated to either get sick and die or get better and be immune. If so, we are just a few months away from herd immunity. These late surges make me wonder if what we are seeing is unvaccinated people getting re-infected. It's never going to end.
As the german minister of health said a few days ago: in a year everyone will be either vaccinated, immune, or dead. I think your timeline and his are a bit optimistic. Make it 3 years or so. Faster if you throw more infection parties. People will need either a vaccination or previous infection to get access to bars etc here. So kids who don't want the vax, go to an infection party, test positive, and get their 'corona passport'. Idiocracy at is finest.

Right now, during this wave, it doesn't look like the corona virus discriminates much between vaxxed and unvaxxed when it comes to infections. Everyone is still a potential target. There is no significant decrease in the R rate, it's actually higher than during previous waves. But when it comes to the resulting disease, 4 out of 5 people in ICU here are unvaccinated, with the unvaccinated being 20 years younger on average. Based on October results, vaccinated have 17 times less chance to end up in hospital than unvaccinated, and 33 times less chance to end up in IC.

Portugal was recently touted as an example of how things should be done. Some military leader declared war on corona, and over 98% of 12 and older is vaccinated. In practical day to day life, the pandemic was over. A day or two after I read that news, 2-3 weeks ago, their latest wave started. Most obvious explanation for the delay is the fact the cold/indoor seasons of the year start later there. They're already looking at reintroducing measures. If they reach high numbers in the next month we can conclude vaccination doesn't reduce spread enough to really get rid of the virus.

I think we've pretty much given up on herd immunity over here. Now it's a matter of saving as many as we can without overloading hospitals. Ride it out end eventually, effectively, deal with it as a flu+, and get a booster shot every season. The reason the flu shot is an annual thing is because the chinese breed new variants of the flu every year. Corona is more contagious and causes more superspreading events than the flu. Even with 100% vaccination rate in one country, there will for the foreseeable future be other countries that will continue to spread it across the globe. I think there's close to zero chance next fall will be very different.
 
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