zeddd
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Cool projection
Pandemic 2020
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DurumGallico
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Of course ! I'm not the one behaving like a child and refusing a calm and respectful exchange.
zeddd
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Too many in here with ignorant medical opinions based on what they hear on the tv from talking head ignorant shitty journalists. The most obvious bs is that you have no immunity after 6 months, I have even posted about memory b lymphocytes to no avail.
CunningCanuk
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It looks like most countries are going to treat it like an epidemic by the summer anyway.
DurumGallico
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A few will share scientific datas and such, but only if it fits in their apocalyptic story, and still refuse to admit obvious things we shared earlier. Same who accuse me of cherry picking... l' hôpital qui se moque de la charité as we say here.
In Switzerland it's considered 10 months of immunity. In France health minister decided he would reduce the 6 months delay to 4, with zero scientifical data supporting his decision.
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CunningCanuk
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It’s hard to take anyone who still uses “scientifical” in a sentence seriously.
captainmorgan
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Was meant for the other idiot.
Jimdamick
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That's a noble ideal, but due to Human nature very hard to attain.
Most people like feeling superior, it's reassuring to one's sensitive ego to know there's someone out there dumber than you.
I know that's how I feel, a mixture of satisfaction/sadness.
Satisfied with my life in general, because I know more than a few that weren't as fortunate as myself in what they had to contend with to simply exist, forget thriving.
Sad, because I'm surrounded by idiots & I'M LONELY!!!!
Seriously, I'm sad because it appears that we like to fuck each other over a lot, to win/conquer, more than anything else it seems.
Personally, I could give a fuck if I win, I'm just an old-time believer in that if you try your best. the best will happen.
That's it/very simple/try it
)I learned as a child intolerance, from self-righteous fucking lying nuns/priests/brothers/monks or whatever those freaks designated themselves as.
They taught me that being different & having an opinion contrary to their ideals/theories is a path to Damnation & poverty of the Soul/wallet
I swore I'd never be like those pricks & I lived my life outside of that culture.
So, I'm basically tolerant/ forgiving but anti-vaxers are self-serving/delusional/antisocial miscreants that should abide by the laws enacted by the democratic society that they exist in.
This ain't disobeying drug/tax laws, this is Life or Death stuff.
No vax?
Stay the fuck in your house, you are threat to me & my children & I will kill you if you come within 6' of me.
Why not?
I'd plead self defense
It would be an interesting court case at least & I'd feel superior
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Fogdog
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I've listened and mostly agree with your arguments.
Dehumanizing antivaxxers because they made a choice that is different from the majority can be accurately cast as a form of tyranny/fascism/authoritarianism. That the choice to avoid this vaccine is based on woo woo ideas and not reality makes it difficult to think of antivaxxers as anything other than idiots. So, yes, I'm biased against people who make ignorant and stupid arguments, which is probably unfair but that's where it comes from.
captainmorgan
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You can't fix stupid.
CunningCanuk
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I understand his point too and it’s why I liked his posts. I wish I could be a better person about it but my patience has worn thin and the ignorance and needless death just pisses me off.
I always assumed the countless people who’ve told me I’m an asshole over the years just didn’t understand me. I’m beginning to realize, maybe they were right.
captainmorgan
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Time to be a proud asshole.
Fogdog
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The problem isn't stupid people. The problem lies with their leaders, who aren't stupid. They are vile. At least that's what is happening in the US. In the US, we are divided between a group that has become radicalized and support a racist and fascist political ideology and those who are not. The vaccine has become a tribal badge that is loaded down with baggage that has nothing to do with science or vaccination. I think the situation in Europe is a different. I also think that Zedd is rightly pointing out that many who are in the majority in the US, those who are vaccinated and are trying to follow guidelines set out by health care professionals are drifting into their own psuedo science. He's advising a middle way.
It's also inevitable that SARS-Cov2 will become another disease in this world that we will have to contend with just like we do others. Extreme measures (lockdowns, masks, "6 feet", etc.) were never about stopping the disease, it was about slowing its progress in order to give time for the development of vaccines and to prevent healthcare systems from crashing. We are almost at the point where we can stop taking all of those extreme measures.
That said, @DurumGallico is an idiot. What can I say, I am biased against people who make stupid arguments to justify poor decisions.
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Fogdog
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Before vaccines were available, outrage at people who were careless was not wrong. The situation is different now. Time to adjust to the new.
DurumGallico
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Well you didn't achieve to prove that, so it's just your opinion at this point. Having "vaccine are "more likely" to prevent transmission" as your only argument in favor of massive vaccination, is a really poor stance. But whatever, feel free to think i'm stupid and keep refusing valuable arguments if it makes you happy !
captainmorgan
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A proud idiot.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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I was stuck in Florida the past year. There are so many Trump fanboys and girls it’s a truly horrific scene. As much as I hated Oklahoma it was not as horrifying as Florida. I am headed to live back California next week and looking forward to living during this pandemic with more reasonable people who care more. It should be a welcome relief.
printer
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Then don't avail yourself if it bothers you.
Fogdog
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The one shoe that I'm waiting to see drop is better information regarding longer term effects that take place after infection. Seems that it will be a few months before that becomes available. I've seen conflicting information regarding the protective value of vaccines from sequelae or long covid.
printer
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Will your valuable argument buy a cup of coffee?
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