Peak THC During a Cure?

Kami Samurai

Kami Samurai

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Is there a pointbinthe curing process where degradation of thc usually starts (without freezer storage)? Does thc just continually convert to CBN or is there a limited achievable about that is strain dependent (without heat decarboxylation)? After the thc conversions does thc just naturally start to degrade (this is the estimated time I was wondering about)?
 
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mr. childs

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i dont think there is a specific time as we all have different enviroments, but i would say it really changes when the buds turn gold in the jar, some see the golden bud as a negative, because the market wants bright purples, reds, oranges on its buds.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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it does start to degrade immediately, but it's a slow process, and you can slow it down even more, with a good cure and proper storage.
get it down to 62% in the jars, then only burp about once a week. keep them in a cool dark place and they'll stay good for more than a year without noticeable loss in potency
 
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mr. childs

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
it does start to degrade immediately, but it's a slow process, and you can slow it down even more, with a good cure and proper storage.
get it down to 62% in the jars, then only burp about once a week. keep them in a cool dark place and they'll stay good for more than a year without noticeable loss in potency
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ever done a freezer cure ?
 
Kami Samurai

Kami Samurai

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Would you say immediately after they go into jars or immediately after the last chemicals have been converted to active states like thc-a and chlorophyll breakdown
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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i'd say it actually starts while the plant is still growing, if you wait for it to be good and truly ripe. by the time you see a significant amount of amber trichomes, the first ones will have started to degrade. the drying and curing process slows it down, the chemical processes don't stop but they do slow WAY down when rh drops below about 60%
 
Kami Samurai

Kami Samurai

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i'd say it actually starts while the plant is still growing, if you wait for it to be good and truly ripe. by the time you see a significant amount of amber trichomes, the first ones will have started to degrade. the drying and curing process slows it down, the chemical processes don't stop but they do slow WAY down when rh drops below about 60%
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Makes sense bud, I just figured peak potency would be somewhere around 1-3 weeks into cure. Fresh live resin extracted then turned into diamonds seems to be the most potent form available before fractional distillation so that would carry. Thank you.
 
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LinguaPeel

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Thc levels are irrelevant to potency. Max potency comes at 4-5 months after harvest in my crops. Has nothing to do with thc though. If youre growing hydroponic crap you might have missed what getting high is all about. A thc molecule isn't all that. The most potent weed is grown probiotically and has much lower relative thc % than the novelty buds that turn 'frosty' due to being devoid of potency-inducing oils and receptor fixing terpinoids.

All this talk about clear trichs, amber trichs. What about white ? Oilless crap. A high relative thc because you're comparing to nothing but emaciated fiber vs comparing to oil/acid dense bud.

Again if you're growing that novelty snake oil hydroshop crap, its degraded before harvest and only getting worse. Not true with natural crops. High Brix high lipid high oil weed starts dropping off at 6-10 months of casual storage.
 
blowincherrypie

blowincherrypie

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LinguaPeel said:
Thc levels are irrelevant to potency. Max potency comes at 4-5 months after harvest in my crops. Has nothing to do with thc though. If youre growing hydroponic crap you might have missed what getting high is all about. A thc molecule isn't all that. The most potent weed is grown probiotically and has much lower relative thc % than the novelty buds that turn 'frosty' due to being devoid of potency-inducing oils and receptor fixing terpinoids.

All this talk about clear trichs, amber trichs. What about white ? Oilless crap. A high relative thc because you're comparing to nothing but emaciated fiber vs comparing to oil/acid dense bud.

Again if you're growing that novelty snake oil hydroshop crap, its degraded before harvest and only getting worse. Not true with natural crops. High Brix high lipid high oil weed starts dropping off at 6-10 months of casual storage.
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I need some of that shit!
 
Kami Samurai

Kami Samurai

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/hightimes.com/grow/the-2017-ultimate-grow-guide-soil-vs-hydro/amp/

Organic Hydro Outdoors has been proven to outgrow living soil. I think your confusing medium with indoor vs outdoor even though indoor is commonly considered to be of a higher quality.

LinguaPeel said:
Thc levels are irrelevant to potency. Max potency comes at 4-5 months after harvest in my crops. Has nothing to do with thc though. If youre growing hydroponic crap you might have missed what getting high is all about. A thc molecule isn't all that. The most potent weed is grown probiotically and has much lower relative thc % than the novelty buds that turn 'frosty' due to being devoid of potency-inducing oils and receptor fixing terpinoids.

All this talk about clear trichs, amber trichs. What about white ? Oilless crap. A high relative thc because you're comparing to nothing but emaciated fiber vs comparing to oil/acid dense bud.

Again if you're growing that novelty snake oil hydroshop crap, its degraded before harvest and only getting worse. Not true with natural crops. High Brix high lipid high oil weed starts dropping off at 6-10 months of casual storage.
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Wasn’t asking about hydro vs soil though and thc is a measurable chemical used to determine potency bud. There are a lot of cannabanoids but when they’re sitting on the shelf @ the dispensary what numbers on top?

This question was asked to figure when would be the best time to extract for concentrates.
 
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Subu

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LinguaPeel said:
Thc levels are irrelevant to potency. Max potency comes at 4-5 months after harvest in my crops. Has nothing to do with thc though. If youre growing hydroponic crap you might have missed what getting high is all about. A thc molecule isn't all that. The most potent weed is grown probiotically and has much lower relative thc % than the novelty buds that turn 'frosty' due to being devoid of potency-inducing oils and receptor fixing terpinoids.

All this talk about clear trichs, amber trichs. What about white ? Oilless crap. A high relative thc because you're comparing to nothing but emaciated fiber vs comparing to oil/acid dense bud.

Again if you're growing that novelty snake oil hydroshop crap, its degraded before harvest and only getting worse. Not true with natural crops. High Brix high lipid high oil weed starts dropping off at 6-10 months of casual storage.
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I'm struggling to see how this has anything to do with hydro. You have no evidence to confirm that weed grown probiotically is more potent.
 
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mr. childs

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LinguaPeel said:
Thc levels are irrelevant to potency. Max potency comes at 4-5 months after harvest in my crops. Has nothing to do with thc though. If youre growing hydroponic crap you might have missed what getting high is all about. A thc molecule isn't all that. The most potent weed is grown probiotically and has much lower relative thc % than the novelty buds that turn 'frosty' due to being devoid of potency-inducing oils and receptor fixing terpinoids.

All this talk about clear trichs, amber trichs. What about white ? Oilless crap. A high relative thc because you're comparing to nothing but emaciated fiber vs comparing to oil/acid dense bud.

Again if you're growing that novelty snake oil hydroshop crap, its degraded before harvest and only getting worse. Not true with natural crops. High Brix high lipid high oil weed starts dropping off at 6-10 months of casual storage.
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ooh brix talk, i like that... basalt... @hyroot
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Kami Samurai said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/hightimes.com/grow/the-2017-ultimate-grow-guide-soil-vs-hydro/amp/

Organic Hydro Outdoors has been proven to outgrow living soil. I think your confusing medium with indoor vs outdoor even though indoor is commonly considered to be of a higher quality.



Wasn’t asking about hydro vs soil though and thc is a measurable chemical used to determine potency bud. There are a lot of cannabanoids but when they’re sitting on the shelf @ the dispensary what numbers on top?

This question was asked to figure when would be the best time to extract for concentrates.
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i'd extract as soon as possible, when you think the plant has reached peak ripeness. i like to see between 5 and 10 % amber, and as few clears as possible. it's not going to get any riper than that.
 
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