Poor Paula Dean...

sunni

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the use of the N word was completely out of context, but that being said most networks do have to make difficult choices when it comes to anything that can hurt their reputation, and things get taken out of hand, if they chose to let her continue they would most likely be labeled as a company that promotes racism, and I think they made the choice that they didn't want that issue on their hands, same could be said about anything that's controversial too.
 

Weedity

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the use of the N word was completely out of context, but that being said most networks do have to make difficult choices when it comes to anything that can hurt their reputation, and things get taken out of hand, if they chose to let her continue they would most likely be labeled as a company that promotes racism, and I think they made the choice that they didn't want that issue on their hands, same could be said about anything that's controversial too.
That makes perfect sense and all, but it really pisses me off as well. First off, they probably would be labeled as a company that is for racism.....because of one single stupid word that people today can't just let go of. If we keep making the n word to come off as so hurtful and bad, people ARE going to use it. Same way with curse words out there. If curses weren't made out to be so bad or weren't frowned upon, curses wouldn't really exist.

Sigh, sucha complicated world man
 

cannawizard

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paula dean should have just kept her mouth shut (or learn to be more "ninja"), but nahhh, years of butter injections finally got to her brain.. and made her say magical things~

live & learn, no worries, she can still sell cook books or wrestle in butter for truck stops~ i doubt she is broke~

i give it about a month or two, and people will move on to the next trending hot topic :joint:
 

sunni

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That makes perfect sense and all, but it really pisses me off as well. First off, they probably would be labeled as a company that is for racism.....because of one single stupid word that people today can't just let go of. If we keep making the n word to come off as so hurtful and bad, people ARE going to use it. Same way with curse words out there. If curses weren't made out to be so bad or weren't frowned upon, curses wouldn't really exist.

Sigh, sucha complicated world man
but that's how all big companies run, just like jc penny and their 2 gay dads ad, they got flack and lost a lot of people boycotting their stores, they responded by putting out a letter saying they support gay marriage, that's how companies work, they need to protect their reputation and figure out what they stand for by going back to their mission statement, what values do they hold in THEIR business? What becomes too far? these companies make millions of dollars and they need to protect what they value, whats in their mission statement and what is morally right. their employees have the right to free speech but it may end up that their free speech doesn't reflect on what the company stands for and may end them in hot water. Paula Deen is a face for that company, and millions know who she is, therefore her right to her thoughts I guess didn't stand what for the company believed in, so the company choose to fire her because they need to protect their values and their company money.
 

curious2garden

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.....snip....that's how companies work, they need to protect their reputation and figure out what they stand for by going back to their mission statement, what values do they hold in THEIR business? ......snip........
Everything hinges on correct identification and adherence to the mores of the target demographic.
 

2rollingstoned

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Again apparently some folks are just scanning the headlines and not really reading the entire situation going on and why she and her brother are being SUED. If you think she just said this years ago as a child or whatever, you aren't actually informed and just lazily commenting with few facts.

I have a southern accent to a degree but its not some big put on fakery. I traveled Europe and they had no problems understanding me so don't throw all of us from the south in together, comparing us with this fake old bird who needs to retire and enjoy her millions.

Decided to add the deposition to read her own words. http://www.scribd.com/doc/148832518/Paula-Deen-Deposition-Testimony

Starts to get good around page 15.
 

spandy

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but that's how all big companies run, just like jc penny and their 2 gay dads ad, they got flack and lost a lot of people boycotting their stores, they responded by putting out a letter saying they support gay marriage, that's how companies work, they need to protect their reputation and figure out what they stand for by going back to their mission statement, what values do they hold in THEIR business? What becomes too far? these companies make millions of dollars and they need to protect what they value, whats in their mission statement and what is morally right. their employees have the right to free speech but it may end up that their free speech doesn't reflect on what the company stands for and may end them in hot water. Paula Deen is a face for that company, and millions know who she is, therefore her right to her thoughts I guess didn't stand what for the company believed in, so the company choose to fire her because they need to protect their values and their company money.
I tell my crew the same thing, free speech doesn't exist in my business. Now of course they know they can say whatever they want, but they will be held accountable for those words inside my doors as far as their employment with my company is concerned.

Outside these walls, the very things I would fire them for are the same things I would be having beers with them over and agreeing upon if it was my or their back yard.

You mix where you make money with what you believe and it can bite your ass financially.

I dont care if a customer votes the same as me, I just want their fucking money, that's all it's about in the end. So I warranty our work, kiss ass, smile, and everything else we have to do to get their money, including not using racial slurs and whatnots.
 

NietzscheKeen

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I think people need to take a look at THEMSELVES before they start casting stones and starting lynch mobs. Sometimes there is a lot of guilt that everyone has and deserves. It seems like its a defense mechanism... "Yeah! Paula is so horrible for saying a word! What a terrible human being! (Inner dialogue... I hope this will gain me popularity points so people won't notice all of MY flaws.)"

None of us are perfect and to attack someone like this is just sickening. Way to kick someone when they are down; that's cowardly. If you want to be a hero, then confess your sins publically. Or would you feel this same sort of attack from everyone else? Make you out to be the pariah for being such a horrible person. It happened... let it go. Move on. Worry about your own selves because this world is full of fucked up people and chances are you are one of them. You might be the next one someone decides to drag through the mud.

With that said, there should be a statute of limitations on a social faux pas , shouldn't there? We've all made mistakes in our lives.. just think if we had to suffer the consequences for EVERY mistake we'd ever made and were never forgive and no one forgot and it could be used against you in the worst possible way at any moment. What kind of mature adult lets a word hurt their feelings though, seriously. I've been called all sorts of hateful racial slurs, had my life threatened because of the color of my skin, been targeted for the same reason... She never threatened anyone's life or physically attacked them because of the color of their skin.
 

NietzscheKeen

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but that's how all big companies run, just like jc penny and their 2 gay dads ad, they got flack and lost a lot of people boycotting their stores, they responded by putting out a letter saying they support gay marriage, that's how companies work, they need to protect their reputation and figure out what they stand for by going back to their mission statement, what values do they hold in THEIR business? What becomes too far? these companies make millions of dollars and they need to protect what they value, whats in their mission statement and what is morally right...
Why does a store or a restaurant have to stand for anything other than reasonably priced clothing and good food? Why does the owners personal opinion matter to the customers? Why should he or she be attacked for having an opinion simply because they own a business?
 

sunni

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Why does a store or a restaurant have to stand for anything other than reasonably priced clothing and good food? Why does the owners personal opinion matter to the customers? Why should he or she be attacked for having an opinion simply because they own a business?
because that's how giant corporation's work its always been that way shes the face of a billion dollar corporation and that's how it works.
 

NietzscheKeen

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I tell my crew the same thing, free speech doesn't exist in my business. Now of course they know they can say whatever they want, but they will be held accountable for those words inside my doors as far as their employment with my company is concerned.

Outside these walls, the very things I would fire them for are the same things I would be having beers with them over and agreeing upon if it was my or their back yard.

You mix where you make money with what you believe and it can bite your ass financially.

I dont care if a customer votes the same as me, I just want their fucking money, that's all it's about in the end. So I warranty our work, kiss ass, smile, and everything else we have to do to get their money, including not using racial slurs and whatnots.
And in true media fashion... the only reason you don't use racial slurs is because you do what you have to do to get peoples money?

I'm joking, but that's how the media has turned a lot of this Paula Dean stuff around.
 

NietzscheKeen

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because that's how giant corporation's work its always been that way shes the face of a billion dollar corporation and that's how it works.
Well, it's like that BS with Chik-fil-a last year. People stopped eating there because the owner said that he believes marriage should be between a man and a woman.
What is the logic? The owner doesn't agree with me, so lets boycott the business. To what ends? It's just a hollow gesture made by pathetic attention hogs and shallow activists. I mean... really... what are they hoping to accomplish here? Get him to take back his words? Change his opinion? It's asinine.
 

sunni

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Well, it's like that BS with Chik-fil-a last year. People stopped eating there because the owner said that he believes marriage should be between a man and a woman.
What is the logic? The owner doesn't agree with me, so lets boycott the business. To what ends? It's just a hollow gesture made by pathetic attention hogs and shallow activists. I mean... really... what are they hoping to accomplish here? Get him to take back his words? Change his opinion? It's asinine.
well it aint gunna all stop cause we talked about on RIU. that's how people are they protest things that'll never end my dear. so im not going to banter back and forth on something that wont change because you decided to argue my non biased opinion about corporations
 

ricky1lung

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Why does a store or a restaurant have to stand for anything other than reasonably priced clothing and good food? Why does the owners personal opinion matter to the customers? Why should he or she be attacked for having an opinion simply because they own a business?
They make it their business, customers usually don't spend money in places they find offensive.
Remember the Tommy Hillfigger fiasco?

At least she told the truth about it but word on the street is she has
had numerous other issues in recent years.

If she was only like this a long time ago and turned over a new leaf it would probably
be a different story. I think her recent history is doing the most harm.
 

Weedity

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Well, it's like that BS with Chik-fil-a last year. People stopped eating there because the owner said that he believes marriage should be between a man and a woman.
What is the logic? The owner doesn't agree with me, so lets boycott the business. To what ends? It's just a hollow gesture made by pathetic attention hogs and shallow activists. I mean... really... what are they hoping to accomplish here? Get him to take back his words? Change his opinion? It's asinine.
It's there way or the highway. The man doesn't believe in gay marriage and that is his god damn right, but since that isn't what people who support gay marriage agree with, they have to ruin his business. He never even said he hates gays, he just said he disagrees with it, and THAT is exactly what is wrong with the way shits going these days.
 

NietzscheKeen

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well it aint gunna all stop cause we talked about on RIU. that's how people are they protest things that'll never end my dear. so im not going to banter back and forth on something that wont change because you decided to argue my non biased opinion about corporations
:confused: I don't really know what it is you're saying. ^^^

Well talking has never changed much, but that is about all that can be done on a forum... so... I guess you're right. Might as well not talk about things. ???
 

UncleBuck

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I've been called all sorts of hateful racial slurs
you're a white supremacist who denies the holocaust ever happened.

calling you a neo nazi is not a slur, it is an accurate description of the beliefs you espouse.

Well, it's like that BS with Chik-fil-a last year. People stopped eating there because the owner said that he believes marriage should be between a man and a woman.
What is the logic? The owner doesn't agree with me, so lets boycott the business. To what ends? It's just a hollow gesture made by pathetic attention hogs and shallow activists. I mean... really... what are they hoping to accomplish here? Get him to take back his words? Change his opinion? It's asinine.
actually, smarty, the uproar was about more than the owner's beliefs, he also gave money to a known HATE GROUP, the family research council.

the FRC lobbies to make homosexuality illegal. the FRC lobbied against condemning uganda's "kill the gays" bill. they are a hate group, just like the KKK, the neo-nazis, or the NBPP.

i vote with each and every one of my dollars, and i would not send a single dollar to the pockets of a person who supports hate groups.

i know you feel differently, seeing as how you are your own hate group, but most reasonable do not hold such repugnant, anti-0semitic, and racist views like you do.
 
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