Pro Grow LED Run #1, Super Cali Haze, Onyx, Blackbriar, and Blue Diesel

Great grow hoss! I am looking into several LED companies to try out and am pretty much going to go with the Pro Grow. I like the switchable spectrum control plus the IR and UV which a lot of LED's don't have. I've heard a lot of positive things about the white LED's. Cree are definitely second to none in terms of quality. Do you know if they are using true 3W diodes? There are many companies that use 3x 1W diodes but advertise as 3W. Magnum is one of these. Not that this makes the Magnums bad, in fact I will probably try out the new Magnum Plus, but they are stacking their diodes. Blackdog's look interesting too, but are very expensive and you have to choose a spectrum for your light (red/blue/or full) which I don't really like.

Also, what insight might you have about switching spectrums? Everyone says something different. Some say they go blue for veg and red for flower, others say they go full spectrum all the way through, and all the various permutations of the three. Have you experimented with the various spectra during veg and flower?

There was a rumor that LED lights caused flowering to take longer, have you found this to be the case? I can't figure out why it would; scientifically it doesn't make much sense.

To the best of my knowledge the new ones do. I was curious about that myself put some shades on and inspected. I think the old 2010 model PG 250 I have is a 3w cluster, the new 180 I have is definitely a single 3w diode.

Since all I've grown with leds are autos I keep veg on one week, full illumination up till the last two then go flower only. I have no scientific basis to back it up but at least I'm saving power and don't lose weight compared to running it full blast all the time.

Maybe a bit longer, nothing tragic. Using led seed to harvest I got over 1.5 oz of the Santa I grew bout 10 pages back, took less than 60 days. I think a lot of people have paid through the nose for less than reputable lamps and the result is a lot of fumes on forums.

To the best of my knowledge the new ones do. I was curious about that myself put some shades on and inspected. I think the old 2010 model PG 250 I have is a 3w cluster, the new 180 I have is definitely a single 3w diode.

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That's good to hear. It's funny because a stacked diode of 3x 1W will actually appear brighter to the eye than 1x 3W diode. But the light does not penetrate as far. This is probably why the new Magnum Plus LED's appear really bright. How much of a difference does it actually make? Who knows...probably some, but more than anything I wish that companies would just be honest about their builds and components so then at least you could pick something that's right for you.

Since all I've grown with leds are autos I keep veg on one week, full illumination up till the last two then go flower only. I have no scientific basis to back it up but at least I'm saving power and don't lose weight compared to running it full blast all the time.

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That makes sense. I guess if you have it on veg only or flower only you are using 1/2 the diodes, or maybe 1/3 of the diodes, I'm not sure how the light works. Reason I ask is that I've been playing around with T5 spectrums lately and found that you can influence the morphology of the plant by selecting certain bulbs i.e. certain spectra make the plant short and bushy with tight nodes, while others coax it to stretch more. I've never had a switchable LED but I'd imagine that the blue heavy weighting in veg would keep the plants tight while full spectrum would trigger more open growth? Is that right? I'd probably go full spectrum for most of veg and flower and maybe red only for the last few weeks of flower. But I guess it's all an experiment right

Maybe a bit longer, nothing tragic. Using led seed to harvest I got over 1.5 oz of the Santa I grew bout 10 pages back, took less than 60 days. I think a lot of people have paid through the nose for less than reputable lamps and the result is a lot of fumes on forums.

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Interesting. I wonder why LED takes longer? I think you are probably right that people reporting two week delays are probably using inferior quality lights.

hoss just wanted to say thanks for your threads and all your input with mine, think i'm closing out of RIU for good, got a really suspect PM from omar924 asking about my location etc... his guess was off but close enough for me to close out of this forum. good luck, keep growing! but watch your back,

Hey Hoss.....some good info on those pro-grows...............thanx..

@prez...........WTF is going on in here..elaborate please........

I read a thread yesterday where a user claimed to have told no one about his grow except all of us that could have read his journal. He claims he was raided. I have also had a PM from a "stranger" claiming they were from my neck of the woods and wanted to know exactly where I was located. Thankfully I'm not retarded but this, coupled with other sketchy reports has led me to believe its not worth it - even though I run a proxy and really enjoy interacting with everyone on here.

They're watching...

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I read a thread yesterday where a user claimed to have told no one about his grow except all of us that could have read his journal. He claims he was raided. I have also had a PM from a "stranger" claiming they were from my neck of the woods and wanted to know exactly where I was located. Thankfully I'm not retarded but this, coupled with other sketchy reports has led me to believe its not worth it - even though I run a proxy and really enjoy interacting with everyone on here.

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Holy shit had no idea this was going on in here................well thanks for the heads up..
be safe ...

hoss12781 said:

I read a thread yesterday where a user claimed to have told no one about his grow except all of us that could have read his journal. He claims he was raided. I have also had a PM from a "stranger" claiming they were from my neck of the woods and wanted to know exactly where I was located. Thankfully I'm not retarded but this, coupled with other sketchy reports has led me to believe its not worth it - even though I run a proxy and really enjoy interacting with everyone on here.

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Turned Out This Guy Had His Stepson Staying With Him.Long Story Short The Guy Belives His Piece Of Shit Stepson Turn Him In.

what do you think i could yield i have a pro grow 550 and im about to start with some auto ak-47? im going to have 3 going at a time in 5-gal pots

The 550 easily covers a 4x4 just keep it about 18 in above the canopy. Get ready for some rare dankness. Best of luck brother.

in terms of yield I've never put 4 plants under a 550 so won't speculate. I have however put one auto (vertigo from Paradise Seeds) under it and got about 5 oz dry in less than 90 days. I only grow four plants at a time and have at least 1 PG 180 and a UFO on each plant. I usually wind up with a clear "winner" of the group. That winner gets the 550 all to itself for the remainder of its cycle. This strategy has worked well for me. I have a total of 5 panels and 1 UFO from HH, also have a 50w bs ufo ( 1 550, 1 250, 3 180s, and the 2 ufos). I allocate them appropriately in terms of what I think each pheno has the potential to yield. I just pulled a massive one down over the weekend, a Bio Diesel from Advanced. It could be the best I've done to date. Will toss up a pick if I don't get too lazy after work.

Hey Whats up Hoss.Glad To See Ya Again.You Planning On Doing Another Journal?I Learned So Much From Your Past Journals And Would like to See What Your Up To These Days.Yes I Did Pull The Trigger And Im Currently Growing With Leds.Come Check Out My Journal I Would Love Your Opinon.Peace and Hair Grease.

will probably start another journal soon. Just placed an order for next year's seeds including every auto from Sagamantha, more blueberry from Dutch passion cause its the tits, and a few of my favs from previous efforts. Just got lazy with this one. Glad to hear you've joined the LED army. Which did you get? Having tried most of the major players I'm pretty well convinced they all will give quality results but am partial to my PGs. I've never grown anything quite as dank with HPS, CFL, or anything else including the sun. I will toss up a couple pics of my Bio Diesel Auto from Advanced in this journal when my lazy ass gets around to it. It is easily my finest work.

Right On Brother Hoss.You Need To Rock 1 Of Your Auto's In The Led Section.I Went With Area-51 Currently I Have 3 Models 1)AF-100 120 Degree Lens And 2) AF-135's 80 Degree Lens With Different Specturms

Hi mate read ur post about autos & biobizz,im not using sodium lights just one giant cfl with dual spectrum,only a 125w but only single plant wanted.I have biobizz veg & bloom & made small 25in tall box,insulated with passive intake,made filter system & good soil.I didnt want to use full strength of nutes,prob half of suggested dose but didnt want to make too much feed up but what do u suggest? I have feminised LR1 auto's,everythings ready,i was thinking which way to go..scrog or LST for extra yield or is it best to let it form cola? Any suggestions or if u want to send private message,great!