Prove to you There's a God?

I am sure their are plenty of Homo/gay men that would kick your ass, making you look like even more of a dumbarse.

Marlboro47 said:

No I am saying that homos want to fuck(I understand that there could be love inbetween them but the only way to feel that that love is right is to be twisted to point where homosexuality seems like its legit).

I don't agree with homosexuality and I think it would be retarded in the first place to have sex with the only friend(brother) I have on an island.
He would turn into a pussy, or vice versa.
Two straight men>two homos (imho)


Has anyone felt love between a man and a women?
Doesn't it seem like you fall deeper in love after you have sex?


Can you imagine how twisted it would be to think man on man is right in the first place?
Everyone has their own conscience, if they can't control it then I wouldn't trust that a homo has more of a will to not have sex with monkeys.

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Heisenberg said:

Then you have just refuted your own allegation that homosexuality comes from the lack of female availability. If you would not engage in homosexual acts in the absence of women, what makes you think that is the reasoning for others doing it? This is what I am talking about when I say you do not think things through and consider the implications. You don't have any internal logical consistency or the slightest awareness of cognitive bias, which leaves any opinion you have on god or homosexuals without merit.

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I said it came from laziness, not female availability.

Heisenberg said:

Then you have just refuted your own allegation that homosexuality comes from the lack of female availability. If you would not engage in homosexual acts in the absence of women, what makes you think that is the reasoning for others doing it? This is what I am talking about when I say you do not think things through and consider the implications. You don't have any internal logical consistency or the slightest awareness of cognitive bias and your assertions depends on a deep misunderstanding and ignorance of reality, which leaves any opinion you have on god or homosexuals without merit.

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Well played, sir!

RawBudzski said:

I am sure their are plenty of Homo/gay men that would kick your ass, making you look like even more of a dumbarse.

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I diddn't say they couldn't fight, I just said two straight men>two gay men...
Two straight men have the will to find a way off to create offspring.
Two gay men are full of lust, preversion, and are only thinking about sex and even falling in love and staying on that island by themselves and doing what they do.

Imo the ones who get off that island are the smarter ones.

i really hope marlboro is trolling because if he isnt, that says a lot about the religious mind.

You can't stop liking women any more than a gay man can stop liking men. How could you possibly know if it's a choice or not if you've never been in the situation? I can guarantee you don't read any gay literature, so could you possibly be so in tune with how gay men must feel, and how they make their decisions?

Two straight men have the Will to Create Offspring?

Marlboro47 said:

I diddn't say they couldn't fight, I just said two straight men>two gay men...
Two straight men have the will to find a way off to create offspring.
Two gay men are full of lust, preversion, and are only thinking about sex and even falling in love and staying on that island by themselves and doing what they do.

Imo the ones who get off that island are the smarter ones.

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Hi neer, elaboration in the ready.

If mystery is 'awe' inspiring, and the 'mysteries' occult practice...it follows that the mysteries are 'unknown' and therefore a 'mystery'. From personal experience I can say that the mysteries were mysterious enough for me to want to study them. I've been in awe ever since!

...'gay' is not a physical experience - I have friends that are 'gay'. They LOVE the same sex and most of them will tell you that it has little to do with say...lesbian porn.

This is a stupid ass conversation if you want me to explain to you how a homo feels. I said imho homos are just lazy.
I've got wayyy better things to do.
Peace.

Marlboro47 said:

I said it came from laziness, not female availability.

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Too lazy to find a woman = no woman

Apparently you think it's easier to find a man?

You don't seem to even understand your own words. Think about things before you say them. Apply an internal filter that says "hey, does this make sense?" before you spread hatred and misunderstanding. This is a great example of why you should examine your beliefs and have something more concrete to go on than dogma. You perceive your faith as giving you some sort of authority to judge, which means you yourself must be without sin, or else engaging in blasphemy.

Heisenberg said:

Too lazy to find a woman = no woman

Apparently you think it's easier to find a man?

You don't seem to even understand your own words. Think about things before you say them. Apply an internal filter that says "hey, does this make sense?" before you spread hatred and misunderstanding. This is a great example of why you should examine your beliefs and have something more concrete to go on than dogma. You perceive your faith as giving you some sort of authority to judge, which means you yourself must be without sin, or else engaging in blasphemy.

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Too lazy to find attractive qualitys in a women, and too infatuated with yourself is what I mean by homos being lazy.

Im sorry I am so tired of this conversation and im not typing everything out... Maybe next time I post you'll understand what I say because I had a chance to restore my energy levels.

Marlboro47 said:

Too lazy to find attractive qualitys in a women, and too infatuated with yourself.

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So for you it takes effort to find women attractive? The only way you like females is to have low self esteem and try really hard? Someone who is not willing to put in that effort turns to men, because there is no effort involved there? Which means in your mind, finding men attractive is easy, and finding women attractive is difficult?

eye exaggerate said:

Hi neer, elaboration in the ready.

If mystery is 'awe' inspiring, and the 'mysteries' occult practice...it follows that the mysteries are 'unknown' and therefore a 'mystery'. From personal experience I can say that the mysteries were mysterious enough for me to want to study them. I've been in awe ever since!

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I appreciate that. I too value the awesome experience of mystery. However that does not speak to mysticism.
Mysticism is essentially the practice of magic. It is irreducibly about using occult knowledge (either kenning or spelling) to draw power from the presumed spirit-realm into that of the mundane ... for the purpose of effecting tangible definite material change. Most mystical disciplines (e.g. astrology, masonry) use massive complexity to camouflage their essential randomness, their zeroness of magical content. Others, like palmistry, rely on the deceitful manipulation of peculiarities of human psychology, especially our deep inner instinct/drive to believe in the validity of mysticism.

I tend to dismiss mystical arguments as being ultimately as circular as using God and Scripture (pick your flavor) to prove each other's verity. That is why i am so keen to ask you to define your terms. I can only learn from ideas that have been focused to the point where they are deniable. N.b. this does NOT mean untrue! It means that the idea is definite enough that there is a reasoned possibility to say No or point out an internal or external inconsistency.

My experience of mystery has been entirely subjective. As such, it does not lend itself as a springboard for discussion or teaching. It assists in keeping me just a little bit humble. All jmo.
cheers 'neer

Marlboro47 said:

Too lazy to find attractive qualitys in a women, and too infatuated with yourself is what I mean by homos being lazy.

Im sorry I am so tired of this conversation and im not typing everything out... Maybe next time I post you'll understand what I say because I had a chance to restore my energy levels.

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That's like saying you're too lazy to find attractive qualities in marijuana. You either like it or you don't, you don't get to choose.....

You can either act, or not act upon your own will but you cannot choose what you will.

Heisenberg, sorry, I missed your post about being 'angry over nothing'...

Here's the deal from my perspective. Any time a person has to argue a point it is adding something to nothing. In psychological terms this would be 'aggregates' pasted to archetypes. I've found in my travels that a lot of so-called atheists are angry about their belief, or, non-belief.

Personally, I think we should all be able to learn from each other instead of having to hammer points in like spikes into a hand.

To me, God is this 'no-thing' - but a 'thing' at the same time. God is an acceptance of different modes of living.

...neer, we are the mystery and the mysteries combined. I don't mean that 'hand is quicker' sht we read about... Maybe I can put it like this... My personal feeling about myth is that it is a reflection of the same being. We are a part of that being. We are hermes, we are adriadne, etc...

eye exaggerate said:

Personally, I think we should all be able to learn from each other instead of having to hammer points in like spikes into a hand.

To me, God is this 'no-thing' - but a 'thing' at the same time. God is an acceptance of different modes of living.

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That is an incredibly ambiguous statement, and does nothing to explain anything about a spiritual, non-physical, creator of the universe dubbed, "God."

...but you're looking at God as a person if you put it like that beef.