Quantum Boards LED Plug n Play HID Duct cooled retrofit Kit

Stephenj37826 said:

I'll be shipping week after next. Out of town doing greenhouse install next week.

Thanks for the kind words. I wouldn't go so far as to say that but I do think the design will have its spot in the market.

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You just keep innovating with your new board. Good on ya!

Yodaweed said:

This is your opinion , you have not cited any actual physics just your own opinion. and you can run HID lights closer if you air condition the area, but at a certain put they will bleach your plants, it has happened to me has nothing at all to do with inferred , you guys are grasping at straws and have no factual information or cited sources you just blab out your opinion with nothing to back it up. I have cited actual laws of physics to back me up and websites to cite my sources.

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So now real life measurement is opinion. You have went so far as to call @robincnn and myself liars. Like I said until you've seen one in person keep your opinion and "Theories" to yourself. Until you have seen this product yourself how can you be so sure of your deductions? I'll be sure to make a video Monday just so you can see with your own two eyes......

Stephenj37826 said:

So now real life measurement is opinion. You have went so far as to call @robincnn and myself liars. Like I said until you've seen one in person keep your opinion and "Theories" to yourself. Until you have seen this product yourself how can you be so sure of your deductions? I'll be sure to make a video Monday just so you can see with your own two eyes......

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Does'nt matter, wanna bet he'll still troll you?

Yoda is a long time known troll. He probably owns amare or works for mars or some shit company. It's like arguing with a 9 year old that believes WWE is the same as MMA

Stephenj37826 said:

So now real life measurement is opinion. You have went so far as to call @robincnn and myself liars. Like I said until you've seen one in person keep your opinion and "Theories" to yourself. Until you have seen this product yourself how can you be so sure of your deductions? I'll be sure to make a video Monday just so you can see with your own two eyes......

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It's not a law you are only quoting your opinions and theories,aka bro science. I stated an actual proven law of science , sorry you consider that trolling .

Yodaweed said:

It's not a law you are only quoting your opinions and theories,aka bro science. I stated an actual proven law of science , sorry you consider that trolling .

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What simulation have you done though to prove the intensity (or lack thereof) coming from these boards per square inch ? Citing a principle doesn't prove you are right.

Sending these off to a lighting laboratory and having them tested by a government approved and recognized facility in a Goniophotometer that is calibrated using government standards should do the trick. Or is that bro science too?

Yodaweed said:

What law are you quoting for this? Unlike you i don't just say physics i show the actual proven laws of physics i used. I would like to know an actual factual source you learned this info from and not your opinion.

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heres an experiment you can do.

take a par meter if you have one

shine a flashlight at it from a prescribed distance

while leaving first light on, shine a second light at meter

you will see that in fact light is cumulative

im still not sure what inverse square law has to do with that discussion

point source lighting like hid is actually inferior to distributed lighting

regardless of light source proper ppfd is easily obtainable from all kinds of light sources

Shugglet said:

Yes it does, its both CC and CV. 54v max though makes it incompatible with these boards though iirc.

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To clarify for you the (C) designation on the driver's number indicates its constant current. Note the CV drivers from meanwell have a voltage adjustment in type (A) dimming where as the CC only has an Output Pot in type (A).

There is a difference between CV+CC and just CC .

Stephenj37826 said:

Sure in 2 years though look how much extra energy and bulb changes has costed. The same can be said about TVs phones computers ect. You buy a computer today next year it will be better. At some point you just bite the bullet and jump in.

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even at $3/w, at least for a personal use grower, you're only talking ~ 7gms to compensate for the price

CobKits said:

heres an experiment you can do.

take a par meter if you have one

shine a flashlight at it from a prescribed distance

while leaving first light on, shine a second light at meter

you will see that in fact light is cumulative

im still not sure what inverse square law has to do with that discussion

point source lighting like hid is actually inferior to distributed lighting

regardless of light source proper ppfd is easily obtainable from all kinds of light sources

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Pointing a directional light at an object isnt the same as measuring a light that has LEDs spread out. Once again you are citing bro science.

Yodaweed said:

Pointing a directional light at an object isnt the same as measuring a light that has LEDs spread out. Once again you are citing bro science.

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Riddle me this. Why does a cob unit such as PLC CXP420 have its highest intensity in the middle of the unit?

Yodaweed said:

Pointing a directional light at an object isnt the same as measuring a light that has LEDs spread out. Once again you are citing bro science.

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How would you know? You call hard measurements 'opinions' and vaguely cite inapplicable laws of physics.

In other words, you're ignorant and you should keep your useless opinions to yourself.

How about this? Take some relevant classes, crack some books, and actually make the effort to LEARN SOMETHING.

Of course there is the very real risk that doing so will make you embarrassed about all the stupid shit you've vomited up on these threads, I'm guessing that's the main reason you haven't.

That, and you're lazy. It's easy to sit on your ass and talk shit about everything, you've proven that we'll enough! But where's YOUR rig? Your grow? ANY new ideas at all?

What you haven't proven is that your opinions are worth the electrons it takes to push them around.

Stephenj37826 said:

Riddle me this. Why does a cob unit such as PLC CXP420 have its highest intensity in the middle of the unit?

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Seems like a hotspot , directly under a hps is the highest reading usually as well.

Stephenj37826 said:

The stand alone is. So it's 50 extra bucks so that's 1.39 per watt. Assembled

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Just keep in mind my points are coming from a DIYer so its a skewed perspective, and youre in business to make money, lol. That said, ultimately Im hoping these boards will prove to be just as good as you guys think they will. Then at the very least they will be another great option to use as lighting... Who doesnt like more options?

Stephenj37826 said:

Sending these off to a lighting laboratory and having them tested by a government approved and recognized facility in a Goniophotometer that is calibrated using government standards should do the trick. Or is that bro science too?

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Out of morbid curiosity, do you really think this is worth it to do? I mean its fun to prove that you are right and disprove someone trolling you, but from a business/marketing perspective are these numbers really more valuable than say a picture/video of an actual grow ready for chop under the lights?

Any response would be cool, even if its a PM, but if you dont want to talk shop, thats understandable. Just curious.

Shugglet said:

Out of morbid curiosity, do you really think this is worth it to do? I mean its fun to prove that you are right and disprove someone trolling you, but from a business/marketing perspective are these numbers really more valuable than say a picture/video of an actual grow ready for chop under the lights?

Any response would be cool, even if its a PM, but if you dont want to talk shop, thats understandable. Just curious.

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we will be getting them tested at different currents and with different optic configurations for lighting simulation and so forth. It is an important part of our business model moving forward and we don't mind sharing.

Yodaweed said:

Seems like a hotspot , directly under a hps is the highest reading usually as well.

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Why wouldn't the highest reading be directly below each cob???? You are correct but sometimes the highest reading isn't directly under the bulb. The reason the center is the hotspot on cob fixtures is due to the overlap. So is it so far fetched that these follow the same rule of thumb but on a much smaller scale. I know you just wont be convinced otherwise but id love for you to see these in person yourself. @robincnn argued this same point with me when we started down this road almost a year ago.......Ask him his opinion now lol.

Stephenj37826 said:

Why wouldn't the highest reading be directly below each cob???? You are correct but sometimes the highest reading isn't directly under the bulb. The reason the center is the hotspot on cob fixtures is due to the overlap. So is it so far fetched that these follow the same rule of thumb but on a much smaller scale. I know you just wont be convinced otherwise but id love for you to see these in person yourself. @robincnn argued this same point with me when we started down this road almost a year ago.......Ask him his opinion now lol.
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i think my 35w cree setups test higher than that e pap does at every distance listed above.but that cant be right,because the 1000w hps law says its brighter ? lolololol

WOULD EVERYBODY PLEASE STOP REPLYING TO YODAWEED.

Its not him that's ruining threads, its all you people who keep arguing with him. He is a troll. In every thread he finds some idiotic thing to argue about for pages and pages. You are not going to convince him of anything. Ever. That is how trolling works. Please stop trying. Now.

There are several of you who just can't help yourselves, and end up ruining thread after thread. Just ignore him and you will see how quickly he goes away. The only threads he sticks around in are the ones where people are stupid enough to reply to him.