QUESTION For Miracle-Gro Organic users...

hyroot · Jul 7, 2011

boneheadbob said:
Great idea. How much do you think it would cost to ship 10 bags of roots to Peehole Arizona?

you know what its funny i actually looked up the name of that so called town and all i found was sex offender web sites. i know parts of cali known as armpit cali

mazand1982 · Jul 7, 2011

HankDank said:
My question is for people who use this particular soil.

Do you or have you ever had a gnat infestation after a few days from them spawning in the soil?
If so how did you decide to correct this without chemical pesticides?

miracle grow is garbage soil and the soil itself harbors eggs that hatch almost no matter what u do...period. the 110% answer to your question is sand. pour a evenly dispersed 1/2 inch layer of regular play sand on top of the soil, the gnats cannot penetrate the sand and die underground, this will work 100 percent guaranteed. you can come back and plus rep me after u see it works..... dont listen to anything else, waste of money

hyroot · Jul 7, 2011

boneheadbob said:
Great idea. How much do you think it would cost to ship 10 bags of roots to Peehole Arizona?

cost x 10 + 8% + shipping = dun duh dun duh daaah dun duh daah dun duh dun duh daaah dun duh daah dun duh daah dun duh daah (indiana jones theme)

I love sarcasm

Vindicated · Jul 7, 2011

hyroot said:
i don't like that mushrooms always grow in that soil on its own. i even use ocean forest for my seasonings, avocado tree, lemon tree, and spanish lime tree.

lol. That's funny. Most farmers flock to soil that develops mushrooms, but you avoid it. I love when people talk shit about a product but prove how great it is in the same sentence. Awesome.

Further reading:
http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn74100.html
http://www.kellogggarden.com/faq#question22

Remember its just peat moss and manure. The same stuff farmers and gardeners have been using for centuries. Scotts inc just harvest it, chops it up, sterilizes it, and packages it under the Miracle Grow brand. Gnats occur during shipping. All the big soil companies get it; it's a regional thing and has nothing to do with the brand. Roots and FF is using the same stuff but they add in a few additional ingredients.

boneheadbob · Jul 7, 2011

malignant said:
miracle grow is a stupid idea dude

I disagree. MG works just fine. I am also sure you can come up with a better arguement then MG is stupid

olylifter420 · Jul 7, 2011

i used a layer of sand, about 1/2 inch layer. worked great!! and i also use ecosmart organic insecticide... its a mix of different types of oils, pretty good stuff.. i spray around my plant area and that helps keep even the winged buggers out for a while... im outdoors, so its a constant battle...

olylifter420 · Jul 7, 2011

i would say yea... you cant digest the smoke you inhale, you can digest the foods you consume, so the breakdown is different...

boneheadbob said:
So its ok to eat tomatos and hundreds of other foods grown using MG but it is not OK to smoke?

olylifter420 · Jul 7, 2011

their soil and their organic bone and blood meals work well, but their other chemical stuff, i would stay away. some have chelated shit and i have heard that chelated chemicals are bad for the plant and you, so yea mg, only if it my last resort or when i need a soil fix fast.!!!!

boneheadbob said:
I disagree. MG works just fine. I am also sure you can come up with a better arguement then MG is stupid

GeeTee · Jul 7, 2011

i dont understand why there are so many people hating on MG and most haven't even tried it, they're just repeating what they've read or heard. its sad really because what they can accomplish with their 40$ soil i can do the same with my 5$ soil and my 5$ nutes.

Vindicated · Jul 7, 2011

olylifter420 said:
i have heard that chelated chemicals are bad for the plant and you

That's incorrect, "Chelates are very important in micronutrient management because chelation increases the solubility and plant uptake of many metal micronutrients."

Source: http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/mauisoil/c_nutrients04.aspx

NorCalTransplant · Jul 7, 2011

GeeTee said:
i dont understand why there are so many people hating on MG and most haven't even tried it, they're just repeating what they've read or heard. its sad really because what they can accomplish with their 40$ soil i can do the same with my 5$ soil and my 5$ nutes.

Roots costs $15 for a 1.5 Cubic Foot bag, where are you getting $40? How much does MG cost?

olylifter420 · Jul 7, 2011

thanks for one upping me bro,, lol... nah, but thanks for the correction

Vindicated said:
That's incorrect, "Chelates are very important in micronutrient management because chelation increases the solubility and plant uptake of many metal micronutrients."

Source: http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/mauisoil/c_nutrients04.aspx

GeeTee · Jul 7, 2011

NorCalTransplant said:
Roots costs $15 for a 1.5 Cubic Foot bag, where are you getting $40? How much does MG cost?

maybe where your at cuz your in Cali. Where im from last time i checked the hydro store sellls FF nand Roots for 33.99+tax so close to 40
edit: and that price was like from 2 or 3years ago

NorCalTransplant · Jul 7, 2011

I'm not in Cali. Oregon.

hyroot · Jul 7, 2011

Vindicated said:
lol. That's funny. Most farmers flock to soil that develops mushrooms, but you avoid it. I love when people talk shit about a product but prove how great it is in the same sentence. Awesome.

Further reading:
http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn74100.html
http://www.kellogggarden.com/faq#question22

Remember its just peat moss and manure. The same stuff farmers and gardeners have been using for centuries. Scotts inc just harvest it, chops it up, sterilizes it, and packages it under the Miracle Grow brand. Gnats occur during shipping. All the big soil companies get it; it's a regional thing and has nothing to do with the brand. Roots and FF is using the same stuff but they add in a few additional ingredients.

I don't like it because i don't want multiple things growing in the same pot fighting for space n nutes, they are not magic mushrooms. they are wild n poisonous. ive seen algae grow around the mushrooms. attract all kinds bugs that wouldnt bbe there other wise

GeeTee · Jul 7, 2011

NorCalTransplant said:
I'm not in Cali. Oregon.

my bad bro saw your name and just made an assumption, BTW very nice tri

hyroot · Jul 7, 2011

GeeTee said:
maybe where your at cuz your in Cali. Where im from last time i checked the hydro store sellls FF nand Roots for 33.99+tax so close to 40
edit: and that price was like from 2 or 3years ago

organic mg sells for 6.99 at home depot. ff ocean forest sell for 13 for 50 lbs bag, the other ff's are like 17.99, roots is 22.99. its been that price for years. the cana terra plus soil is like 30 but its illegal in the u.s. because some biological in the soil that customs won't allow through

NorCalTransplant · Jul 7, 2011

No worries, it happens a lot

Sorry but what is tri?

And I dont know if Roots is worth $40, but I would try to go with something organic than MG, buts that's just my NorCal snobbery coming through

. You can look at the ingredents of Roots and try to find a decent substitute.

GeeTee · Jul 7, 2011

hyroot said:
organic mg sells for 6.99 at home depot. ff ocean forest sell for 13 for 50 lbs bag, the other ff's are like 17.99, roots is 22.99. its been that price for years. the cana terra plus soil is like 30 but its illegal in the u.s. because some biological in the soil that customs won't allow through

o im sorry i dint know your the almighty price god. and may i ask where are you from?

GeeTee · Jul 7, 2011

NorCalTransplant said:
No worries, it happens a lot Sorry but what is tri?

And I dont know if Roots is worth $40, but I would try to go with something organic than MG, buts that's just my NorCal snobbery coming through . You can look at the ingredents of Roots and try to find a decent substitute.

ive been experimenting with my own mix bro and i use mg organic and scotts humus and manure as my base. and TRI is refering to your pit

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