Recently treanplanted RW into hempy solo..How do I water perlite without soakin RW

TurnNBurn

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My girl is auto ak-47/ LRer#2 in the 2inch grodans two weeks old and she had some nice roots coming through. She would need to be watered every 24-36 hrs with just RW but after transplanting into solo hempys she stays pretty wet for 3+ days. Should I remove the top layer perlite to let more air at the cube? All opinions, suggestions, or comments are greatly appreciated and happy growing.
 

TurnNBurn

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Can someone please, if they grow hempys in RW tell me your method after just transplanting into a solo or 2 to 3 gal bucket as to not soak the RW and train the roots to go down to the resovoir. Im afraid of under/over watering and want to prevent root rot or dampening off. Even though I have not posted much I have read hundreds if not thousands of threads here and other sites looking for answers so I'm not just looking for handouts. Any response would be really helpful thanks
 

ganjagoddess

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So If i'm correct your saying you transplanted your 2" RW cubes into A VERMICULITE AND PERLITE netpot an are attempting to train roots to go toward the DWC/Bubbler System.

If so,

The correct way is to stop top watering, and have the humdity draw the roots out of the bucket,

In systems like you have described the RW does the exact oppsite of what it does in any other system, IT DRIES out and the roots go downward for life survival.

I killed alot of plants having to learn to let the bubbling /humdity draw out/down my roots, and one of the hardest things in hydro for me.

I also used ultrasonic FOGGERS to help with struggling plants and SLow Plants but the Clog/Break Easy. But Get your bubbling almosttouching/ touching the bottom of the net Pot, or get the mist/humidity going and let your pot dry out.

After 4 days it should send out a root and find its way down, which you can then adjust levels to desired range once it gets good roots down in.

And all without barely ever lifting up the pot. (or IN GREEN LIGHT ONLY)
 

TurnNBurn

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Thanks for the reply a hempy is filled with a 3-1 perlite/verm mix with a hole (mine is 1.5 in from the bottom) to create a reservoir. Its a passive hand watering hydro sys and i hear water every day whn u transplant then i hear 3 days so I'm not sure. It's been 3 days RW is wet the perlite/verm is dry. So i dont know how to keep the mix wet with out soaking th RW because if the rw never dries I think the roots wont search for the reservior or get root rot. Anyone with any tips I would really appreciate it. Happy St Paddys day
 

ganjagoddess

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OK...

A true Hempy design started in Soil utilizing a one too 2 inch HYDRO LAYER that stays wet at the bottom... Your describing a almost 90% Hydro/SWC Hempy Idea..
Is this to be your final POT for flowering IN?

PErlite and Vericulte are like Hydroton in that they can take up too 24-48 waterings a day or even a constant flow because they dry out so bad...

If this is the case see if you can get your small res to drain to a bigger resovoir and pump it back through the plant. Start with running the pump constantly..

If the Perlite/Vermiculite ever drys out ever the roots will die... This is really a constant water system as I see no other way your plant can live beyond the constraint of the 2" RW CUBE..
 

TurnNBurn

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Again thanks for your input... I believe the verm should hold enough for about two days untill im really in aggressive growth and i hope for the roots to have hit the resovoir by then. If the roots do begin to get root bound i have a 2 gallon pot i was going to cut around the solo and transfer. Being a low ryder auto cross im not sure how big to expect the root ball to get with its short life cycle. I'm really am stumped i'm not sure if i should try to water in the rez hole kinda bottom up like I did with the RW. I'm just afraid becuz it's the fourth day and the rock wool is still pretty damp as from before whn it would be watered every 24-36 hrs or whn almost dry. Thanks again
 

ganjagoddess

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Ok for one if the roots have left the RW gone through the perlite and are touching the rez, your RW is going to be 100% wet all the time...

So lets not focus on wether or not your RW IS wet.... Because Your plant is upshifted you want the RW and PERLITE/VERICULTE mix to act as ONE MEDIUM, that gets wet, then DRIES a little evenely and gets wet again.

but the BEST THING i think you can do to troublshoot this is to FLOOD your growing medium 1x day for the next 5 days and see the results.

Do it as a flood and drain and watch what happens.
 

TurnNBurn

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Thats what I'm going to do with it staying wet so long. I dug out the sides of the rockwool which were uncomfortably wet so I am going to put in 100% perlite and leave the 3-1 mix below the bottom of the rw hopefully this will help dry quicker and thanks for helping on my trial run.
 

TurnNBurn

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I was still looking for any hempy growers out there that start in RW that could help me out with this transition into the solo and keeping the medium as uniformly dry as possible as opposed to the rw being wet and the perlite/verm being dry or almost dry. I've even taken out the top layer of the 3-1 mix to try to help dry it out.
 

ganjagoddess

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I think its better to ignore Rw and only focus on Perlite conditions... Which mean they need to get wet, wet, wet
 

TurnNBurn

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Thanks for helping this noob while I get my systemdown... I have been watering every 3 days and the rockwool seems to stay wetfar longer than the perlite mix (hope I'm not beating a dead dog). Roots aregrowing down toward the rez so that is a promising sign. How far up should therw be I have the top pretty even with the lip of the cup. Also I should keep itcovered with the perlite i didn't trying to dry out the RW and had lots of algeand a reddish color occur. I watered with a light nute/h202 mix to try to fixagle and dug out the some of the perlite with alge on it.I think next time imay just forgo the RW because I'm keeping them small so Im hoping they can staystable in a str8 perlite/verm mix (if this doesnt work out... I'm assuming theworst). I just am very uncomfortable with how long and how wet this RW stayseveryone says that perlite should be wicking it away but I don't see that atall. Goddess anyone please share your experiences thanks in advance. BTW avg temps are 75-85 .....40-75 rh and on a 20-4 sched from seed as they are autos. I feed them mainly gh 3part with protek sillica roots excel and floralicous plus. I added hygrozyme last time but I dont think I will repeat that as it seemed to really acerbate the RW problem not enuf bennis obv. and i dont want to breed the bad ones.
 

TurnNBurn

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I know I won't get much but I'd at least like to have it live through a life cycle so I can learn and finally smoke a bowl of something I grew even if it is all I harvest lol. Any Hempys comments advice tips?!?
 

TurnNBurn

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Ok thanks doing that now... do I have to worry about the color of the RW because whn it was just green i was unhappy but not worried now that its a reddish brown I'm freakin alil. So you recommend just shielding them from light and hope for the best. Do you think i should continue (just started today whn I saw them turn so red) h202 treatments I only have the 3%. I'm thinking about stopping floralicious plus and hygrozyme and going with out bennies. Just protek sillica gh 3part and gh roots excel. Or should I stay with the organics (I also have aquashield which is chicken shit) which I haven't used. Sorry about being all over the place I feel like the more I try to learn the the less I seem to know.
 

ganjagoddess

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RED Means its dead you killed it with HYDRO PEROXIDE.. BTW dont use h202 again its not that great...

You Mentioned alot of GH products.... both organic line and thier 3 part... I'm not in love with either but the can make very "clean" weed, just pick one and you'll be fine. prefer thier orgainc line I used it once wasnt too bad, both lack result to me though.


ROOTSS Excel is AWesome why not just swithc to HOUSE and Garden Whole line??
 

TurnNBurn

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I tried to rep you but can't yet but thanks for all the help pisses me off but live and learn i'l save h202 for the flesh wounds lol. I have no recourse iyo just move on with new seed?
 

TurnNBurn

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1 last thing I didn't even think to say/ crazy as hell over here was that it was red before the h202 so i must of killed it another way. I really think I should't hav used hygrozyme all th trouble seemed to start after that. Next time like tomorrow or whn the die on me I think i will test GH lucas no bennies or anything and then one with the H and G line with hinzenbergs* soup I read about.
 

TurnNBurn

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DSC02490.jpgDSC02489.jpgDSC02488.jpgDSC02487.jpgDSC02486.jpg Update: She pulled thru...I hope to get a 1/8th but it looks
like it will be good all i can expect for my first go. On the right is her younger sister (by about 2 weeks) a RRF auto. These things are hard to kill prob even harder in
hempys now to go for the 1 LBers lol.
 
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