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twostrokenut

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I'm not at all implying that guns are responsible. People are.
I thought you just said there were too many guns in the US....or too accessible rather....which was why there were mass shooting every month? So the people are responsible for not regulating their own access? I don't follow.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
I thought you just said there were too many guns in the US....or too accessible rather....which was why there were mass shooting every month? So the people are responsible for not regulating their own access? I don't follow.
Access... It seems to be all to easy to gain access, whether in the home or on the street. This is probably more evident in the statistics regarding accidental shootings in the home. Parents/Guardians do not seem willing or capable in many cases to restrict access to firearms and the laws do not hold adults legally liable in many cases due to state laws.

Gun bans are not the answer. I will be the first to say that from experience. But responsible ownership with a paramount importance on safety is. This can only start at home and from a young age - should you choose to introduce firearms into your childs life. This is the culture that should be embraced within a society that places great importance in the 2nd.
 

nevyn

Member
Access... It seems to be all to easy to gain access, whether in the home or on the street. This is probably more evident in the statistics regarding accidental shootings in the home. Parents/Guardians do not seem willing or capable in many cases to restrict access to firearms and the laws do not hold adults legally liable in many cases due to state laws.

Gun bans are not the answer. I will be the first to say that from experience. But responsible ownership with a paramount importance on safety is. This can only start at home and from a young age - should you choose to introduce firearms into your childs life. This is the culture that should be embraced within a society that places great importance in the 2nd.
The problem with gun bans is that the citizens give up their guns the criminals don't, all it does is declare open season on the citizens. If I was an american I would fight tooth and nail to keep them, they have made it very difficult in my country to own a firearm and the criminals are running amok because of it. Our criminal stats prove this.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
The problem with gun bans is that the citizens give up their guns the criminals don't, all it does is declare open season on the citizens. If I was an american I would fight tooth and nail to keep them, they have made it very difficult in my country to own a firearm and the criminals are running amok because of it. Our criminal stats prove this.
I explicitly stated "Gun bans are not the answer" in post #403
 

UncleBuck

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I thought you just said there were too many guns in the US....or too accessible rather....which was why there were mass shooting every month? So the people are responsible for not regulating their own access? I don't follow.
australia, for all of its disappointments (sketchy etchy, most notably), has reduced gun massacres very well. they may still have gun violence, but the massacres are all but extinct.

as much as i hate sketchy etchy, his country has proven that gun rights can exist while mitigating gun massacres. we could probably learn a thing or two from many other countries, that pedo island included.
 

UncleBuck

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I explicitly stated "Gun bans are not the answer" in post #403
your country has effectively banned guns. self defense is not even an acceptable reason for gun ownership from what i have read about your laws.

and what you call routine would be called unbearable infringement and tyranny over here.

america loves the shit out of guns is what i ams aying.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
australia, for all of its disappointments (sketchy etchy, most notably), has reduced gun massacres very well. they may still have gun violence, but the massacres are all but extinct.

as much as i hate sketchy etchy, his country has proven that gun rights can exist while mitigating gun massacres. we could probably learn a thing or two from many other countries, that pedo island included.
No, guns rights do not exist here to the extent you are implying.

By no means are they comparable and what you are advocating for is a firearm ban - which is not legally compatible with your current constitution. You cannot own a firearm here for the stated reason of "self defence" so we have very limited gun rights as one would naturally associate self defence with self preservation, by and large you would consider that a right even a biological imperative.

Gun Massacres, accidental shootings and suicides aren't mitigated by banning firearms. Mitigating and eliminating such horrendous events is achieved through responsible ownership and more importantly safe storage - this is what the statistics actually support.
 

mr sunshine

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What happend to the good old days when u could buy a gun at walmart! One time i came out that muthafucker with a movie a weight bench a sweater and a shotgun!
 

UncleBuck

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...and more importantly safe storage...
a gun is a very big responsibility in that way. i take lots of precautions to not impale myself on my axe or shock myself with my taser when i sleep with self defense in mind. such precautions would have completely prevented many of our recent gun massacres.

if only people took greater care to lock their guns away when not actively carrying them, a classroom full of 1st graders would be alive right now. our country turns a blind eye to it.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
a gun is a very big responsibility in that way. i take lots of precautions to not impale myself on my axe or shock myself with my taser when i sleep with self defense in mind. such precautions would have completely prevented many of our recent gun massacres.

if only people took greater care to lock their guns away when not actively carrying them, a classroom full of 1st graders would be alive right now. our country turns a blind eye to it.
That is something we both agree on. After reading the final sandy hook report http://www.ct.gov/csao/lib/csao/Sandy_Hook_Final_Report.pdf safe and secure storage would have been a major contributor in preventing that massacre. The other factor would have been a responsible parent.
 

ChesusRice

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a gun is a very big responsibility in that way. i take lots of precautions to not impale myself on my axe or shock myself with my taser when i sleep with self defense in mind. such precautions would have completely prevented many of our recent gun massacres.

if only people took greater care to lock their guns away when not actively carrying them, a classroom full of 1st graders would be alive right now. our country turns a blind eye to it.
?????
The Newtown shooter I thought was using HIS gun to kill the kids
 

mr sunshine

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Buck you sleep with an axe? I couldnt agree with you more bro if a child has the ability to get ahold of your gun
You might as well just give it to him/her. Owning a firearm that is not secured when not in use is just as irresponsible
As handing a kid a gun!
 

Canna Sylvan

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australia, for all of its disappointments (sketchy etchy, most notably), has reduced gun massacres very well. they may still have gun violence, but the massacres are all but extinct.

as much as i hate sketchy etchy, his country has proven that gun rights can exist while mitigating gun massacres. we could probably learn a thing or two from many other countries, that pedo island included.
Liberals are like Mormons. The Australians lost their guns when the popo went door to door. Zombie video games on the Xbox One are training material and can only be "played" as military exercises. For your crocodile fucking Steve Dundee he has to get it on the black market like the bad ass criminal Jamie Kennedy Wigger. Dingos even steal babies, just in case some stupid conservative mother didn't get an abortion like she should've. Of course you love those things about his country. There's even a cane toad which you can use as your environmental cause why it's not nice to mess with mother nature. I think you should move there and live the dream.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
i bet the LAPD have called in the military at some point or another as well.
I'm sure they have. I would rather they did that and "left the datum" rather than have the cryptomilitary SWAT arm whose deployment they don't need to own up to as plainly. Remind'em that they are civilians after all. They want to hide that inconvenient factette. Let's pay real attention to the hand that isn't moving. Gnome Saiyan?

Militarisation of domestic law enforcement is very relevant.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/01/25/lapd-and-special-forces-conduct-military-maneuvers-in-the-skies-above-downtown-la/

Cops don't need mad ninja skills.
By and large, i think we're agreeing on this.

 

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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I'll expand on a point I made earlier. Without slavery, we have no significant African American population. Those people wouldn't even exist because their ancestors would have never met, thus they would have never been born.

If I were forced to get into a time machine that would make me a person born in 1830, if I could, I would choose to be born a slave over a poor white from that era. This is not a defense of slavery, I wish there had never been slavery in the new world. How awesome would this country be if our black population was under 1% instead of around 15%. Memphis might actually be a nice city, and Atlanta wouldn't have to keep growing because there would be no need for all those people to keep moving away from the bad parts of town.
i wish my native american ancestors didn't trust you whities. you have the worst case of amnesia. but then again, if they never "met" they wouldn't have been raped by said whities i'd not have the complexion i do right? rape and slavery are good things because immigration(like that of the booming industrial world in the late 1800's and early 1900's.) would never have been available to the africans: is this the logic you follow? lemme guess, you're a bible thumper too?
 
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