reveging need advice

so i recently had a plant(black afgani) that didnt put that much bud out, like seriously i got almost 5 times as much off its sister plant that started at the same time, was the same strain and were together the whole time. so i thought id just reveg it under the floresents i have my new clones under. the lights are only putting out a little over 9000 lumens and i was wondering if this would be enough to reveg it if i put it under 18/6?

y do ppl reveg??? it loses its original qualities... jus start all over... if it was a shitty yeilder then it could be its genetics so u think its gonna do better the second time around???

well honestly like the way i was thinkin was really what did i have to lose if i reveged it because i wouldnt even be giving off an ounce and its 3 feet tall....
how does it lose its properties?

Hey, right before I opened your thread, I was reading sumthin about reveging! Thats hella wierd! lol But heres a link about it. Just read the Monster Cropping article.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=2214345http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=2214345

Mr.Organic said:

well honestly like the way i was thinkin was really what did i have to lose if i reveged it because i wouldnt even be giving off an ounce and its 3 feet tall....
how does it lose its properties?

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when a plant goes into flower its nearing its life cycle there for changing its hormoanal patteren to reproduce..... thats y it buds, so it can get pollenated and spread seeds... it goes threough many changes u cold almost say its like stress.... by the time ur plant is harvested its pretty well dead... think if u were 80 and had a heart atack(nearing death) and then recovered, u think ur gonna be the same as u were 10 yrs ago??? i dont know if that makes sense, im jus tryin to explain it best i can... basicaly it goes though many changes in the veg to bud transition

Mr. Organic,

Revegging does NOT cause the plant to loose its properties... resinraider was correct that the genetics could be weaker on that plant, even if the two seeds came from the same mother. However the only thing that happens when you reveg is you cause the plant to readjust its hormones. Many experianced growers (I've done it, friends have done it, even Jorge Cervantes does it) will grow a crop, and if they like a particular strain they will cut the main buds off a plant, leaving a majority of the plant, then reveg it simply to get more clones, thus turning it into a mother. It is well worth a try. If you get 5 clones and all have a shitty production then you know it is genetics. Ive even revegged from a stem and 2 VERY SMALL lower branches, it took a while, but I did it (this before learning what to properly do).

Point being, if your going to restart a bunch of seeds, you might as well reveg this plant and take some clones from it as it will take a little less time (2 weeks reveg vs 6 weeks germ; 3 weeks clone while seedlings still in germ stage; 1 month of clone veg while seedlings just starting to veg; and best off, you know its a female vs seedlings will be 60/40 male/female.) Enevidably this creates a perpetual harvest aka sea of green.

resinraider said:

when a plant goes into flower its nearing its life cycle there for changing its hormoanal patteren to reproduce..... thats y it buds, so it can get pollenated and spread seeds... it goes threough many changes u cold almost say its like stress.... by the time ur plant is harvested its pretty well dead... think if u were 80 and had a heart atack(nearing death) and then recovered, u think ur gonna be the same as u were 10 yrs ago??? i dont know if that makes sense, im jus tryin to explain it best i can... basicaly it goes though many changes in the veg to bud transition

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I see your deduction and it is logical, but plants are ALOT more adaptive than humans. I have a friend in another state that has a five year old mother plant. Now for a plant with a life expectancy of only 8-16 months, many would say that isn't healthy or whatnot, and admittedly the plant will give out soon, however. Truth being the mj's life expectancy is a variable controlled by its environment, so if it is in a constant veg stage, then the plants hormones are tricked to believe it is just an insanely long summer. Now as for revegging you kinda have a point. You are causing the plant, which its hormones correlated with that of a plant at the end of its life cycle, to switch hormones back to a vegetative stage. While this can be a very stressful, long, and even (rarely) fatal process, once the vegging hormones start to reflow, the plant goes along with the process. I have been told you can only reveg with it being worth your time 2 times, I've only done it once. But it does save time, the quality was just the same, and the plants were healthy.

heres a brainstorm second time floweringthe last pic was it flowering first tme. hope you didnt mind me posting pics on your thread mate

BlessAmerica said:

I see your deduction and it is logical, but plants are ALOT more adaptive than humans. I have a friend in another state that has a five year old mother plant. Now for a plant with a life expectancy of only 8-16 months, many would say that isn't healthy or whatnot, and admittedly the plant will give out soon, however. Truth being the mj's life expectancy is a variable controlled by its environment, so if it is in a constant veg stage, then the plants hormones are tricked to believe it is just an insanely long summer. Now as for revegging you kinda have a point. You are causing the plant, which its hormones correlated with that of a plant at the end of its life cycle, to switch hormones back to a vegetative stage. While this can be a very stressful, long, and even (rarely) fatal process, once the vegging hormones start to reflow, the plant goes along with the process. I have been told you can only reveg with it being worth your time 2 times, I've only done it once. But it does save time, the quality was just the same, and the plants were healthy.

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yes they r more adaptable then humans and yes it could grow for ever if u dont change its light cycle... u may not realize the difference but i garuntee there is 1... perhaps a lil less poten, less growth speed, less aroma or taste, or even less yield... its hard to compare with out proper instruments or the 2 together not to mention 1 clone is differnt from an other even off the same plant... if every clone was the same(off the same plant) then they would all harvest the same wieght, be the same size, intake the same nutes and we know thats impossable... im not saying that it wont work and i hear the point to tie u over till ur new seeds r ready... i jus feel that when its done, its done

del what strain is tha third one from the left it looks hella good. thanks for all the advice tho guys i think im gonna end up doing the reveg. =]

in the third pic from left in order left to right is brainstorm, brainstorm 2nd flower then 2 ultra skunks with just long main colas.

Hey there Mr. Organic.. Thought you might be interested in my lil project.
I'm reveging a tiny bud from a lower branch.
Heres a link https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/256595-cloning-bud.html

i have a hindu skunk plant and recognized the leaf shape and color but damn imma be happy if it turns out like yours del!!

like the other guy said though if its been a slow plant it may be a bad choice to use. mine went back in 24 hour light, was repotted, gave 1 dose of nitrogen then only water for next 4 weeks ish but sprayed nearly each day with a weak solution of mg.

ive had some success with reveging. i take my clones from the best producers after they have been reveged. works for me, and yes it saves alot of time between harvests

i think that i just caused to much stress to it because i moved from humboldt to redding and brought it with me along with one other. but only time will tell i guess...

just cant expect that every plant is going to be a good 1, sometimes you just have to bin it. can vouch for the ultra skunk it grows like a cutting, no problems as yet

yeah for sure. thanks for all the advice tho del and everyone else... happy halloween

no probs, happy halloween organic....

I have reveged. My last grow was. I harvested all 4 of my plants then I took the 2 biggest ones with the most yield and left just a few leaves on them and trimed the roots way down. I put them back on 24hrs of light. I also started 2 new ones from seed at the same time. Well I just harvested again and I have to say the reveged ones kicked the the ones from seed butts. Much larger, yielded more and got me stoned as any other weed.