Runtz seeds?

ak47dude

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Dark Heart has had dudding issues in the past, but I think/hope they are finally past that now. They are actually the first group to identify "dudding" as latent hop virus: https://darkheartnursery.com/news/hop-latent-viroid/

I believe that they ended up getting rid of the dudding in their nursery by deep cleaning and tissue culture for all of their strains. They have some fire cuts and some meh cuts. White Runtz, MAC1, and Wedding Cake are the top cuts they carry IMO, but they also push a lot of strains from Humboldt Seed Company.
Id love to get them Mac1 clones. Signed up for their drops but didn’t get any notifications for couple of months. Neptune’s net has regular seeds that usually end up being around 1300-$1800 on their auction.
Crazy
 

Dividedsky

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Id love to get them Mac1 clones. Signed up for their drops but didn’t get any notifications for couple of months. Neptune’s net has regular seeds that usually end up being around 1300-$1800 on their auction.
Crazy
I acquired 3 legit caps-cut mac1 snips free with a pricey clone purchase, got all 3 to root. Though I haven't flowered the mac1 cuts yet, don't think this cut is worth a heafty price tag. Also from what I thought and heard, the caps mac1 cut should not be sold and it supposed to be given/gifted away free to legit growers, like it was given to me. All I can say so far from veg- is it's slow as fuck in veg, really slow, doesn't like to much water and is a calmag hog. Definitely a finicky cut for sure, though in veg she already has some very unique smells and from what I've seen if grown properly in a dialed in room can produce some of the most frosted out buds ever, though don't think she is much of yielder.

Don't think people should trust those neptune auctions, there's not any verification checks and safety nets to protect customers from getting bunk packs. Think people should stay away from most of the auctions unless they're verified from the breeders themselves. $1300-1800 for a pack of beans this day and age is just straight up ridiculous, especially mac seeds, I wouldn't even pay $200 for those beans. Mac1 is also notoriously hard to breed with.
 

Dividedsky

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Someone here already told me same thing about the apple fritter crosses line. I hoped just an S1 was stable. I got the Apple Tartz as well)
If I veg it for full 1-2 months I think I’ll be better off.
Im in the game since Obama came in to the office and promised he won’t touch patients and let the states deal with us LOL
However, this is my first year I started popping the seeds :)
This year I popped:
Gelato seeds.com Runtz ( local LA guy) ok genetics got 1 lb out of 4 beans 3.2K-not bad
All these are coming up soon.( Taking me about 6 months from seed to the jar)
Barney’s farm Do si dos 33, Purple punch, Mimosa, muffin Runtz.
Seedsman Gelat.OG freebie
Devine genetics sunset sherbet S1( heard he was a crook)
Grandiflora genetics project 4516.
Exotic genetics Buckin Runtz and S1 freebie
Clearwater Apple fritters, Apple Tartz and pint size freebie will do next week.

so far no nanners))
Ya the herms are more to do with the apple fritter crosses. The apple tartz has produced some really nice plants I've seen on here and instagram, so you should pull some nice phenos on the tartz.
 

Armyofsprout

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White Runtz squared. Dunno why they're calling it that instead of a Bx but its up for sale. 400 bucks lol I got my Runtz Bx1 from Rado for like 80 or a 100 bucks. These guys are just raping folks.
I’d rather take my chances with official runtz than growing a bunch of unofficial seeds and crosses and not knowing what you’re really getting plus with real runtz I can make that back EASY. A lotta these other runtz out here be fakes or trash
 

nc208

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I’d rather take my chances with official runtz than growing a bunch of unofficial seeds and crosses and not knowing what you’re really getting plus with real runtz I can make that back EASY. A lotta these other runtz out here be fakes or trash
The only difference is the price tag, Cannarado is easily one of the top breeders these days who has the REAL runtz cut which isn't hard to acquire. Runtz crew are a joke who don't know jack about breeding. Nothing justifies the more expensive price from a brand new breeder with no skills simply because they worked with cookies on this. Anyone can make their money back if they find a nice cut whether its hyped runtz or something else.
 

Dividedsky

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I’d rather take my chances with official runtz than growing a bunch of unofficial seeds and crosses and not knowing what you’re really getting plus with real runtz I can make that back EASY. A lotta these other runtz out here be fakes or trash
Real "official" runtz looks more concerned with selling t-shirts and hoodies than being actual breeders. You clearly haven't done your homework or have not looked through this thread, most of the breeders I and a few others have mentioned are using the real actual runtz clone for there runtz crosses, like Clearwater, cannarado, and csi Humboldt to name a few. I'd snag beans off those mentioned over official runtz brand all day considering they( official Runtz) are way over priced and have terrible reviews on their seeds. Also if I really wanted I can get "the" runtz cut which would be better than getting some mystery pack from official runtz brand.. also that’s what they are mostly selling- runtz crosses themselves. Still I would rather grab other cuts considering runtz is a much over hyped strain, I've grown much far superior flower than runtz.
 
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Bears_win

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Dark Heart has had dudding issues in the past, but I think/hope they are finally past that now. They are actually the first group to identify "dudding" as latent hop virus: https://darkheartnursery.com/news/hop-latent-viroid/

I believe that they ended up getting rid of the dudding in their nursery by deep cleaning and tissue culture for all of their strains. They have some fire cuts and some meh cuts. White Runtz, MAC1, and Wedding Cake are the top cuts they carry IMO, but they also push a lot of strains from Humboldt Seed Company.
Last used them in 2015, so I can’t speak to current DHN they used to be the hot stuff, but heard they had gotten Pythium ( perhaps this is the dudding and I misunderstood ) and they lost it.

We used to run their staple cuts( sours, dream, chem) and they were all workhorses.
They came out with a lot of newer cuts around winter 2018/19 and I was considering trying them again but primarily do seed starts now and was way more excited to pop beans than the strains they had on deck.
a lot has changed in the decade plus they’ve been in business. Seems like they are still here and in demand so good for them
 

Armyofsprout

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Real "official" runtz looks more concerned with selling t-shirts and hoodies than being actual breeders. You clearly haven't done your homework or have not looked through this thread, most of the breeders I and a few others have mentioned are using the real actual runtz clone for there runtz crosses, like Clearwater, cannarado, and csi Humboldt to name a few. I'd snag beans off those mentioned over official runtz brand all day considering they( official Runtz) are way over priced and have terrible reviews on their seeds. Also if I really wanted I can get "the" runtz cut which would be better than getting some mystery pack from official runtz brand.. also that’s what they are mostly selling- runtz crosses themselves. Still I would rather grab other cuts considering runtz is a much over hyped strain, I've grown much far superior flower than runtz.
I have done my homework. And you can get a “mystery” pack from any brand. Fault me for trusting the actual brand ‍♂ Don’t matter to me. If I got the money I can do what I want. And for the prices of what runtz going for where I’m at it’s well worth it and it’s worth it to have the paperwork behind it as well as proof. I grow shit other than runtz. But I just want to be able to say the runtz I do grow comes from the official brand. Branding means everything from where I’m at. And I don’t pie about my strains or where I got em from etc, It is what it is.

I don’t see why you felt the need to go in on me simply because I said I feel comfortable going with the official brand. Seems like you got some kind of vendetta against them. Nothing to do with me tho so I don’t take it personal. All I clearly said were there’s a lot of fake runtz out here, because there is and that’s simply a fact. Did I say that there weren’t any real ones? No I didn’t. I just personally wanna grab from the original brand and know where it’s coming from.If I got the money to splurge so be it.
 

Armyofsprout

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The only difference is the price tag, Cannarado is easily one of the top breeders these days who has the REAL runtz cut which isn't hard to acquire. Runtz crew are a joke who don't know jack about breeding. Nothing justifies the more expensive price from a brand new breeder with no skills simply because they worked with cookies on this. Anyone can make their money back if they find a nice cut whether its hyped runtz or something else.
And you say isn’t hard to acquire. Maybe for you but where I’m located I’m in no position to get good cuts or I would’ve been getting cuts. It’s really that simple. But right now I grow mainly for profit. Plus I already grabbed other runtz seeds from elsewhere and want to compare to the runtz branded seeds as far as growth journals.
 

LeftOurEyes

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I have done my homework. And you can get a “mystery” pack from any brand. Fault me for trusting the actual brand ‍♂ Don’t matter to me. If I got the money I can do what I want. And for the prices of what runtz going for where I’m at it’s well worth it and it’s worth it to have the paperwork behind it as well as proof. I grow shit other than runtz. But I just want to be able to say the runtz I do grow comes from the official brand. Branding means everything from where I’m at. And I don’t pie about my strains or where I got em from etc, It is what it is.

I don’t see why you felt the need to go in on me simply because I said I feel comfortable going with the official brand. Seems like you got some kind of vendetta against them. Nothing to do with me tho so I don’t take it personal. All I clearly said were there’s a lot of fake runtz out here, because there is and that’s simply a fact. Did I say that there weren’t any real ones? No I didn’t. I just personally wanna grab from the original brand and know where it’s coming from.If I got the money to splurge so be it.
The thing about Runtz is they are basically an unproven brand. Yes they have huge hype right now but the truth is as a breeder they are unproven. People will definitely buy flower based on the name alone, but in a lot of the growing and breeding crowds you have to have some proof to have respect and right now Runtz is new and seems to care more about merch than flower and seeds. They may be "official" but that doesn't mean much when you have no history and anyone who charges $700 for seeds can suck it in my opinion.

And yes I can afford that price too, but it's still an outrageous price for a new breeder and is literally just capitalizing off of hype so no way I would pay it.

People can buy official Runtz and make money from it so I get that mentality but I don't think the official stuff is even close to the best that you can buy in the seed world, its just a money maker from hype and that's it.
 

Dividedsky

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I have done my homework. And you can get a “mystery” pack from any brand. Fault me for trusting the actual brand ‍♂ Don’t matter to me. If I got the money I can do what I want. And for the prices of what runtz going for where I’m at it’s well worth it and it’s worth it to have the paperwork behind it as well as proof. I grow shit other than runtz. But I just want to be able to say the runtz I do grow comes from the official brand. Branding means everything from where I’m at. And I don’t pie about my strains or where I got em from etc, It is what it is.

I don’t see why you felt the need to go in on me simply because I said I feel comfortable going with the official brand. Seems like you got some kind of vendetta against them. Nothing to do with me tho so I don’t take it personal. All I clearly said were there’s a lot of fake runtz out here, because there is and that’s simply a fact. Did I say that there weren’t any real ones? No I didn’t. I just personally wanna grab from the original brand and know where it’s coming from.If I got the money to splurge so be it.
Dude think you're taking it the wrong way- I to can splurge on official runtz brand, what I'm saying is they are a sketchy brand at best, have terrible germination rates and are pretty much unproven. I have no vendetta against them, I actually think they are rather clever at marketing the hype of runtz. Remember all runtz is a pheno of zkittlez x gelato 33 that alot of of seed brand/breeders now have the cut of. Just trying to inform the newer growers that might be quick to drop $500+ on a pack to grow in there 4x4 tent-that there are most likely better options for a fraction of the price that are for sure crossed with the real runtz clone. Also saying that you haven't done your homework is not going in on you dude, sorry if you felt that way.
 
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BigSco508

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Dude think you're taking it the wrong way- I to can splurge on official runtz brand, what I'm saying is they are a sketchy brand at best, have terrible germination rates and are pretty much unproven. I have no vendetta against them, I actually think they are rather cleaver at marketing the hype of runtz. Remember all runtz is a pheno of zkittlez x gelato that alot of of seed brand/breeders now have the cut of. Just trying to inform the newer growers that might be quick to drop $500+ on a pack to grow in there 4x4 tent-that there are most likely better options for a fraction of the price that are for sure crossed with the real runtz clone. Also saying that you haven't done your homework is not going in on you dude, sorry if you felt that way.
Dude save your breath it's not worth the time trying to school a noob that want's to buy 700 packs of seeds and they are not selling you the Runtz pheno BX'd to it self to my knowledge the are selling crosses just like everyone else. Just with about a 200 to 400 mark up but hey it's Kosher right gotta pay the Rabbi to bless them packs lol.
 

Dividedsky

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Also have to remember there's alot of straight up dudes on this site that just love to grow and help people grow. They're just looking out for fellow growers when it comes to purchasing beans. There's been so much sketchiness with the runtz strain overall, even on these very pages. Last year summer 2019, maybe even earlier.. is when I first started to hear about packs of good ole regular gelato flower getting slapped with runtz labels and fetching a hefty price than what they would normally go for. That was my first introduction to runtz, then the copycat dude on here, who is a known scammer by the community(pretty sure he was posting with a different handle in this thread) Then official runtz brand charging $700 a pack, to me is just taken advantage of people.
Dude save your breath it's not worth the time trying to school a noob that want's to buy 700 packs of seeds and they are not selling you the Runtz pheno BX'd to it self to my knowledge the are selling crosses just like everyone else. Just with about a 200 to 400 mark up but hey it's Kosher right gotta pay the Rabbi to bless them packs lol.
Was wondering when you were going to pop up in here.
 

mindriot

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I think most people who have been buying seeds a while figure out pretty quick it's the breeder reputation and honesty that matters. For me that's more important than marketing gimmicks when you're looking for genetics. I'm always wary when I see a new breeder pop up with overpriced seeds and t-shirts and a marketing slogan. But to each their own...
 

Dividedsky

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I think most people who have been buying seeds a while figure out pretty quick it's the breeder reputation and honesty that matters. For me that's more important than marketing gimmicks when you're looking for genetics. I'm always wary when I see a new breeder pop up with overpriced seeds and t-shirts and a marketing slogan. But to each their own...
Don't forget scantily clad women as a marketing ploy to sell weed seeds. It's pretty low budget.
 
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waterproof808

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$700 crosses from a clothing company is outrageous and unethical as hell. You could easily pull $70k a plant off seeds alone at that rate.
 
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