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UncleBuck said:

then name one where the killer was a minimum wage increase. just one.

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BigNBushy said:

I don't think they can, because they have never increased the min wage like you are advocating here. You want a sudden jump from 7.25 to 10 or 15.

A massive sudden increase like that would surely create pandamonium.

We have historically added 50 cents or less every few years. That can be absorbed. Several dollars per hour cannot.

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theexpress said:

this is ur head ...

this is ur head on drugs...

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UncleBuck said:

jesus christ, i have to tutor a subway sandwich maker about how minimum wage works.

80% of americans say $10.10 (indexed to inflation) is a good min wage. i agree. you can live with basic dignities at that rate if you work hard and manage your finances well.

that is a 43% increas in the minimum wage, and they would stage it over several years in incremental increases, as they have
always done.

we raised the min wage by 41% incrementally from 2006-2009 and the skies did not fall. prices did not soar, as has been mathematically demonstrated over and over and over again.

i repeat my previous request: then name one where the killer was a minimum wage increase. just one.

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BigNBushy said:

I wasn't saying you are wrong. Skylard is the one wanting to make it 15 tomorrow. That would be a disaster.

10.10 indexed to inflation would be fine with me, but it won't fix the problems you seek to fix. It would simply create more minimum wage earners.

When I worked at subway, I made .75 above minimum. When I was in high school, I had a lot of 8/hour jobs, and made close to 3 dollars over minimum.

Folks who have a respectable wage now at 10 aren't going to get a bump, at least not one as big as the minimum gets.

To me this is a lose lose. Can the employers cover it, yes. Is it good for a few Americans, yes. Is it good for America, not at all.

If you start a minimum wage job, and are worth a fuck, you won't be making minimum for very long.

Minimum wage is for high school kids and losers. No one worth a goddamn makes minimum wage.

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UncleBuck said:

name one business that has ever had to close its doors to a minimum wage increase.

all i need is one example to validate your theory and hypotheticals. otherwise, without actual examples, that is all you have: theory. talking points that are so deluded that they never happen in the real world.

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UncleBuck said:

for $15, that pizza better be fucking huge AND good, not just one or the other.

i live in one of the priciest food markets in the world, and $15 would buy me a motherfucking feast of delicious pizza or decent chinese buffet or a proper portion of the best vietnamese food you can imagine.

i would not plan to stay in business long with a $15 pizza.

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tokeprep said:

Here's a paper examining increases in the minimum wage and business failure rates: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4227285?uid=3739664&uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21103202847761. Conclusion: no relationship.

Here's a paper criticizing the methodology of the first paper: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4227512?uid=3739664&uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21103202847761. But the conclusion is the same: no relationship.

I'm inclined to agree. I think increases in the minimum wage come at the customer's expense, in the form of higher prices, inferior service, etc. I suspect many of the "gains" to minimum wage workers are erased by higher prices.

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schuylaar said:

*income per site

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• Initial Franchise Fees. Most franchise companies require a new franchisee to pay a one time initial fee to become a franchisee. This fee can be as low as $10,000 to $15,000 or as high as the sky--in some cases well over $100,000. The average or typical initial franchise fee for a single unit is about $20,000 or $35,000.
• Royalties or Ongoing Franchise Fees. Franchisees usually pay an ongoing franchise fee or royalty. This fee is normally expressed as a percentage of the gross revenue of the franchised business but can also be a fixed periodic amount such as $500 per month, regardless of revenue. The average or typical royalty percentage in a franchise is 5 to 6 percent of volume, but these fees can range from a small fraction of 1 to 50 percent or more of revenue, depending on the franchise.
• Marketing Fees. Franchises often require participation in a common advertising or marketing fund. This fund is frequently a national program, but it can also have a regional or local market focus. As with royalty fees, this can be a fixed contribution, but is more often a percentage of revenue in the 1 to 4 percent range.
• Required Purchases of Products or Services. Some franchisors also require that a franchisee purchase certain required products or services either from the franchisor or from affiliated entities of the franchise company. The thing to watch for in this situation is whether the pricing is competitive or not.
• Other. There are no other typical or common fees or costs, so if you see anything else in a franchise disclosure, check it very carefully to make sure it's appropriate.

nontheist said:

It's beyond silly it's his childish nature. Everyone knows the large majority of business closes are do to cost increases. This isn't rocket science, I want to know how he expects to double salaries for all employees when the owner is only making a 50k profit. It's fucking retarded.

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tokeprep said:

You're telling us that businesses publish detailed explanations for their closures to the public when they surrender their tax IDs or file their last tax returns. That is laughable bullshit. They do no such thing.

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UncleBuck said:

for $15, that pizza better be fucking huge AND good, not just one or the other.

i live in one of the priciest food markets in the world, and $15 would buy me a motherfucking feast of delicious pizza or decent chinese buffet or a proper portion of the best vietnamese food you can imagine.

i would not plan to stay in business long with a $15 pizza.

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Winter Woman said:

Skylard, Somehow you always get lost on the way. How can you be that dimwitted to think that that is all it takes to make and run a business? Here are just a few more examples:

After the purchasing of the franchise the new franchisee has to purchase or rent a building not a small expense, if they rent it is probably triple net (paying for part or all of the maintenance of furnaces, air conditioners, parking lots, lighting in and out, painting, plumbing problems, snow removal, lawn service, etc.). Cash registered, point of sales software and advertising. Does the owner support local teams and charities?




Then there is the payroll service, payroll taxes, insurance on the building, insurance on the business, linen service, mat service, cleaning service (kitchen hoods have to be cleaned every month or two, grease traps have to be cleaned. And that is just what comes off the top of my head.

Don't forget personal property taxes on all those tables, chairs, cash register, ovens, mixers, office desks (have to have an office), camera system to catch the thieves, etc.

So NO, that isn't income, what it is (almost) net sales.

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Winter Woman said:

Some of the most typical costs and fees paid to the franchisor (or to direct affiliates of the franchisor) include:

• Initial Franchise Fees. Most franchise companies require a new franchisee to pay a one time initial fee to become a franchisee. This fee can be as low as $10,000 to $15,000 or as high as the sky--in some cases well over $100,000. The average or typical initial franchise fee for a single unit is about $20,000 or $35,000.
• Royalties or Ongoing Franchise Fees. Franchisees usually pay an ongoing franchise fee or royalty. This fee is normally expressed as a percentage of the gross revenue of the franchised business but can also be a fixed periodic amount such as $500 per month, regardless of revenue. The average or typical royalty percentage in a franchise is 5 to 6 percent of volume, but these fees can range from a small fraction of 1 to 50 percent or more of revenue, depending on the franchise.
• Marketing Fees. Franchises often require participation in a common advertising or marketing fund. This fund is frequently a national program, but it can also have a regional or local market focus. As with royalty fees, this can be a fixed contribution, but is more often a percentage of revenue in the 1 to 4 percent range.
• Required Purchases of Products or Services. Some franchisors also require that a franchisee purchase certain required products or services either from the franchisor or from affiliated entities of the franchise company. The thing to watch for in this situation is whether the pricing is competitive or not.
• Other. There are no other typical or common fees or costs, so if you see anything else in a franchise disclosure, check it very carefully to make sure it's appropriate.

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schuylaar said:

i've consulted in the past with those multi id's

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schuylaar said:

http://www.lanebryant.com/

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