Scrog Bucket yarrrgh!

yeah well unless some of you have been living in closets (like our flowering females), you should know that girls are used to a little trimming once in awhile. i'm not getting into a big debate on whether to trim or not, but i look at it like this.

Canopy=Surface Area
Disregarding penetrative light, with a larger canopy, comes relatively enlarging photosynthesis.
Would it then be untrue, that should you bite into an apple, your potentially adding dimensions, which in turn should enhance photosynthesis?
Another example would be to look at the plant like a loaf of bread; as a whole the loaf possesses a specific circumference=surface area=canopy. However, should you separate each slice, your basically multiplying the dimensions of the potential canopy, increasing "light distribution".

be right back with some pics of Lucy. She is a flowering beauty. Pistils have really begun to mature.

The leaves are what allows for photosynthesis. They are the most important part of the plant. The more leaves on the plant the better. go look at fdd2blk's plants and you will see how many leaves are on his plants. His buds are big and he trims no fan leaves. Do not trim fan leaves from your plants, all you are doing is stunting them

oh? i do not trim all the fan leaves btw, which as a matter of fact is not at all uncommon practice for European growers. i understand that the leaves are used for photosynthesis.. but do you install solar panels under your porch? I've done plenty of research, and have experimented myself and I'm not interested in any opinions about trimming so please do not hijack this thread. Here is what i've accomplished so far since the trim. very very dense buds might i add and the shoots are really filling in.

I'm not seeing anything special, unsubscribed

I did have a lot to say about that previous remark, but I've consolidated my thoughts. I've asked for opinions and feedback; I do not appreciate blatant claims, they're what fills up a journal with junk, I don't want my journal full of spam. Daily, I see what there is new for me to learn, and if I want that type of information than I would seek it out, which as I've said before I have done previously on many occasions (btw, to trim or not to trim is not at all a new dilemna for me) I would have appreciated your comments had you formatted them differently. It's unfortunate, and I feel rather safe to assume, that you've married body language to words that you've read on a screen..

You're straight bro. That guy's not doing anything this nice. It most definitely is special.

leetsoup said:

yeah well unless some of you have been living in closets (like our flowering females), you should know that girls are used to a little trimming once in awhile. i'm not getting into a big debate on whether to trim or not, but i look at it like this.

Canopy=Surface Area
Disregarding penetrative light, with a larger canopy, comes relatively enlarging photosynthesis.
Would it then be untrue, that should you bite into an apple, your potentially adding dimensions, which in turn should enhance photosynthesis?
Another example would be to look at the plant like a loaf of bread; as a whole the loaf possesses a specific circumference=surface area=canopy. However, should you separate each slice, your basically multiplying the dimensions of the potential canopy, increasing "light distribution".

be right back with some pics of Lucy. She is a flowering beauty. Pistils have really begun to mature.

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Your analogies are senseless and way off, devoid of logic, and lack of an understanding of practical growing procedures.

you responded with an insult, not Tom, then proceded to go into his journal and produce negativity, which I sure don't appreciate.

You obviously don't understand the scientific information presented in your research, or you tapped into the wrong resources.

Simply: botanically and horticulturally, you are wrong.

Tom is right.

Had you been right, and responded righteously, I would have posted something completely different.

Had you taken any more leaves in your trimming, your plant would be devestated.

You will not get as good of a harvest because of it.

I hope you learn to be more humble.

Im trying to be (its hard sometimes).

Please don't get mad. Im not trying to be mean. I don't think it would be fair for you to continue on with misconceptions of practical cannabis growing practices.

see if i can cut in past the pointless drama up there....

i was wondering about the floranova. are you still using floranova bloom for your base nutes?

i have six plants about a week from harvest that i fed floranova grow and bloom then switched to advanced sensi bloom a+b 3 weeks into bloom. fn grow seemed to work well but i don't like the fn bloom, even after shaking the bottle till i'm red in the face its still chunky and my girls improved in 48hrs with sensi bloom.

what have you been mixing it with? how's it working out for you? is yours chunky?

yo loaded, i appreciate your comments. it is not that i know, but it is simply a theory; and there is nothing better learned than from making mistakes. you have to understand that ive grown without trimming before, and as i mentioned this time around is simply to try something new. i appreciate your regard for toms comments as he did have meaningful thoughts.

as for the floranova, i've been mixing with thrive-alive b1 and blooming essentials by Grotek, including the nova these are all organics don't forget. try to stay organic if your gonna add anything else. and no mine isn't too bad for clumps, try to prevent any water getting into the bottle though, that would surely promote some coagulation. i would suppose a huge factor would be the shelf life of the product, im sure mine had not sat forever as it is a good consistency. on another note ive heard of some bottles hardening over time and becoming basically useless.

leetsoup said:

as for the floranova, i've been mixing with thrive-alive b1 and blooming essentials by Grotek, including the nova these are all organics don't forget. try to stay organic if your gonna add anything else. and no mine isn't too bad for clumps, try to prevent any water getting into the bottle though, that would surely promote some coagulation. i would suppose a huge factor would be the shelf life of the product, im sure mine had not sat forever as it is a good consistency. on another note ive heard of some bottles hardening over time and becoming basically useless.

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i don't think floranova is entirely organic. the gh website (http://genhydro.com/genhydro_US/floranova.html) just says it combines hydroponic and organic gardening but nowhere does it specifically claim floranova is all organic. seems like there's some organic in there but there's also some mineral based nutes.

i don't want to argue but i was confused by that when i first when to buy the stuff. either way as far as i know its not listed as organic by any 3rd party like OMRI.

my fn bloom has had chunks since i very first used it so its gotta be an old batch. the chunks look crystalized.

I appreciate and respect your humility. And there is nothing wrong with experimenting your absolutely right, what we were trying to say is that it has already been experimented and that a practical method of sun leaf removal has been established. Flora Nova bloom products are organic based with chemical additives. The combinations shortens the shelf life of the product, reduces the consistancy, and increases the chances of toxic reactions. However, when the fertilizer is stored and maintained properly (shake twice a day, and use the whole thing in one grow) it provides a good spectrum of nutrients and minerals for Imediate consumption, with a little left over that is time released. FN has some good products, some great products, but its not my first choice. I have smoked some danky nugs that have been grown using those nutes..... I remain subscribed.

sometimes, shortly after you've been rolled over by the giant peach that is life, spontaneously it explodes and we forget our worries as we feast on the finer things in life. thanks for stickin around.

A very fair amount of hairs have browned.

Wow, any other experiments you'd like to try or see carried out?

it looks like should be ready to flush starting in about 14 days...... so about 3-4 weeks left.

well, i've currently got a project in anticipation of the winter. i've got a mother bucket which i will grow for clones, which will be grown in a 6 site dwc. plants grown from seed are in each for now.

Looking good man. Grow how you want and keep it up! + rep

what strain is that???

The scrog bucket is a clone, apparently either Texeda Timewarp or Brainwarp, while the other plants are all from bermese seed.

leetsoup said:

well, i've currently got a project in anticipation of the winter. i've got a mother bucket which i will grow for clones, which will be grown in a 6 site dwc. plants grown from seed are in each for now.

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Are you going to scrog all 6? how close are the net pots?

I like to use a screen very early in growth, very near the lid. this gives me wicked long ass shoots each in their own space.

the netpots are 5 inch pots with fair seperation (too lazy to go check exactly). 4 of 6 pots are being used; bermese plants, not all confirmed females. i'll flower these just for fun while i work on growing out a mother for a perpetual harvest.