Seen a lot of posts on here accusing others of being "Russians"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Greenthumbskunk, Aug 27, 2017.


    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member

    If you support of some of the agendas by the Trump Administration.

    Let us not forget...

    Hillary loves Putin.

    “I said, ‘You know, Mr. Prime Minister, we actually have some things in common. We both want to protect wildlife, and I know how committed you are to protecting the tiger,’” Clinton reportedly told the audience. “I mean, all of a sudden, he sat up straight and his eyes got big and he goes, ‘You care about the tiger? I said, ‘I care about the tiger, I care about the elephant, I care about the rhinoceros, I care about the whale.'”

    She added: “So we go down the stairs, we go down this long hall, we go into this private inner sanctum.

    "All of his, you know, very beefy security guys are there, they all jump up at attention, you know, they punch a code, he goes through a heavily-armed door.

    “And then we’re in an inner, inner sanctum with, you know, just this long, wooden table, and then further back, there’s a desk and the biggest map of Russia I ever saw.

    "And he starts talking to me about, you know, the habitat of the tigers and the habitat of the seals and the whales.”

    Mrs Clinton appears to have previously been a fan of the masculine world leader who plays a mean piano.

    She also claimed earlier that year that he was: "Engaging and, you know, very interesting conversationalist.”

    Was instrumental in helping Russia buy 20% of America's Uranium to build nuclear weapons only to be pointed at the US. She took 145 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation from the Canadian company. The deal had to be signed off by the Pres and Sec of State Clinton.

    Another time when she was with Putin.

    Earlier that year, Clinton reportedly dismissed the possibility of Putin’s military buildup being a threat to the United States. “I last saw [Putin] in Vladivostok where I represented President Obama in September for the Asia Pacific economic community,” she allegedly said in remarks at Sanford Bernstein. “I sat next to him. He’s an engaging and, you know, very interesting conversationalist.”

    “We talked about a lot of issues that were not the hot-button issues between us, you know, his view on missile defense, which we think is misplaced because, you know, we don’t believe that there will be a threat from Russia,” she continued.

    and another time.
    “And finally on Afghanistan and Russia. Look, I would love it if we could continue to build a more positive relationship with Russia,” she reportedly said in a June 2013 speech to Goldman Sachs, claiming that Russia was “helpful” in Afghanistan. In that same speech, Clinton said that, while Putin was “asserting himself in a way now that is going to take some management on our side,” she still hoped the U.S. could “have a positive relationship with Russia.”

    Bill Clinton also gave speeches in Russia and got paid big bucks as well.

    Funny how things are isn't it?

    I guess Larry Nichols was right when he said he advised the Clintons that whatever you are doing you accuse your opponent of doing it.
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    ANC Well-Known Member

    So, what makes you think the fact that we can't support someone who looks like he is working on a plausible insanity plea, we support Hillary?
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    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    Thanks so much for spending the time to post this. Really great work!!!!!!!:clap:

    It being that you are the expert at ferreting out fake strange conspiracy theories, I'd sure appreciate if you'd tell us about Plasma Beings. What about Plasma Beings?
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    zeddd Well-Known Member

    Low iq

    SouthCross Well-Known Member

    Peace with Russia is bad for business. That'd be billions and billions lost to the military industrial complex. The private sector also. Blackwater employees have children who need food.

    Stop messing with people's paycheck by bringing it up.

    abalonehx Well-Known Member

    Literal Russians?
    Ok, they may be wrong about that.

    But Trump would push Hillary's anus off Putin's dick to suck it.

    tangerinegreen555 Well-Known Member


    Russian spam

    PCXV Well-Known Member

    Russian POS

    dstroy Well-Known Member

    What? We are at peace with Russia. Our military spending peaked in about 1987, then decreased until after the gulf war when it began to increase again in the early 2000's, and has now plateaued back to 1987 levels because of our current operational tempo, conflicts abroad, protecting our allies, and national policies that are designed to "protect our global interests". lol

    We have significant global military presence which isn't cheap, and has little or nothing to do with Russia other than shows of military strength. While we don't agree with Russia's military strategy we aren't in open or covert conflict with them aside from cyberspace.

    Again, the government doesn't award contracts to companies or individuals who have abused the system for profit with false expenses, they are blacklisted forever.

    Did you know that trump has made it easier for government contractors to abuse the system and violate labor laws? So why don't you go write to him about our military spending because he is the one pushing the envelope on an already bloated military budget. Not only is it bloated but the money has a hard time making it to places that it's needed most, like for repair parts.

    If you want to complain about a program in particular, why not complain about the JSF? It has been the largest waste of taxpayer money on a defense contract that I know of.

    londonfog Well-Known Member

    Russian Beef Stroganoff

    2 1/4 lb beef (boneless)
    4 tbsp flour
    4 tbsp ketchup
    5 oz sour cream
    2 c broth
    1 tbsp flour pounded with butter
    1 ea onion
    salt to taste
    I bottle of Ruskova Russian Vodka

    Chop meat long wise fibers and beat the pieces a little. Sip Vodka.
    After that cut pieces into stripes 2 cm long and 1/2 cm wide. Sip Vodka.
    Season and roll in flour. Sip Vodka
    Fry chopped onion in pan and when gold brown, put the meat stripes in with. Fry on hot heat until the meat is light brown. Sip Vodka
    Make a sauce: fry 1 tb flour pounded with butter for few minutes, add sour cream, ketchup, salt. Sip Vodka
    Pour the sauce over meat and stew on a low heat during 15-20 minutes. While Sipping Vodka Don't let sauce to boil, overwise the meat will be hard. Beef Stroganoff is served with fried potatoes, but American can use the weak soft noddles...just Sip Vodka
    greg nr

    greg nr Well-Known Member

    Russian agents have been confirmed to be acting as sock puppets in online forums, posting to political discussion boards for the sole purpose of fracturing the opposition.

    They do it in Europe and they do it here. It is one of the reasons the bots became so inflamed. The sock puppets were fanning flames and inciting hate, all the way from eastern europe.

    It is a very effective strategy if left unchecked. They are here as well. They pretend to be passionate supporters of bernie or some other candidate and try to cause fights so people won't come together. End result is that people get so pissed off they won't vote for a good candidate because of what these provocateurs have sewn.

    that's why they get called russians. They aren't trying to steal anything more than an election, one voting block at a time.
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    Indacouch Well-Known Member

    OP is Russian

    @srh88 OP is Russian

    K, that's all
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    srh88 Well-Known Member

    does he also have a funny shaped head?

    Indacouch Well-Known Member


    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member

    Bill Clinton and the Selling of US Security
    For the Clinton crime family, selling out US national security is a family business

    This may be the greatest scandal in 50 years of American history.

    It makes Watergate look like a jay walking charge. It makes the Iran Contra affair look like a small time operation. This is what House Republicans should have Impeached Bill Clinton for instead of lying about a White House Intern giving him head in the Oval Office. It’s called treason.

    Bill Clinton is at the center of the greatest foreign policy deceit ever perpetrated on the American people. He used the power of his office to allow the selling and delivery of high tech missile defense components to governments of countries that are listed as threats to this country and the stability of the world. Russia was one of the benefactors of deals Clinton made without proper authorization from Congress. Ignoring CIA and Pentagon reports that showed how Russia was continuing a major and secretive modernization program for its strategic nuclear missile systems, Clinton allocated over $1 billion to “help” the Soviets “dismantle” their nuclear weapons. In 1995 the General Accounting Office (GAO) wrote that Moscow refuses to permit American audits of the $1.25 billion disarmament aid. This is an important issue because it allowed the Russians to use American taxpayer’s money to build new offensive nuclear weapons that directly threaten the United States.

    Under U.S. law, no money could be spent in Russia until the Clinton administration certified that Moscow is not engaged in any military modernization program that exceeds legitimate defense requirements. The Clinton administration along with U.S. Air Force General Eugene Habiger, the commander of U.S. Nuclear forces signed off on the Russian aid package after returning from an exploratory trip to Russia to investigate construction of a huge secret underground base in the Ural mountains. True, the base is as big as the entire area of Washington D.C. and is defensive in purpose. In addition to the base, the Russians built two cities to house the more than 30,000 workers involved in the project. By 1996 authorities had barred defense attaches from going into the facility.

    Known as Yamantau Mountain (translates to ‘evil mountain’), the facility is being constructed to offer a safe place to retaliate in the event of an American nuclear attack. To me, this represents a direct conflict of interest. Clinton gives the Russians over one billion dollars to help them take down their nuclear weapons but instead they use that money to build a huge bunker where they can wage nuclear war on the U.S.

    Not only that, the Russian Strategic Rocket Forces issued a statement suggesting that nuclear missiles can be secretly deployed at the base as part of what is being called the “dead-hand doomsday system” where nuclear missiles can still be fired automatically by a command program. This means even after Russian leadership is destroyed, and no one is there to push the ‘button’, missiles will be fired automatically against the perpetrators allowing for complete destruction on a world wide scale. By April 1996, reports confirmed the automatic nuclear attack system listing it as being in the final stages of operation.

    It’s more than a coincidence that 1996 saw a massive Russian military build up including major improvements to the Tu-95 and Tu-160 strategic nuclear bombers as well as the long range cruise missiles they carry. Money had also made it possible to design and construct a new class of nuclear submarines called “the Borei-class strategic missile boat.” At least part of Russia’s miraculous financial bonanza is the direct result of United States money. As usual, all the public knows is that the U.S. is helping Russia to “dismantle” some of its nuclear programs.

    Bill Clinton wants Americans to know that he has worked very hard to show that Russia and the United States are together in making the world a safer place. In a speech to Moscow University students, he said; “Look what our partnership has already produced. We reversed the dangerous build up of nuclear weapons. We’re two years ahead of schedule in cutting nuclear arsenals under START 1 ( Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty). START 2, which still awaits ratification in the Duma, will reduce our nuclear forces by two-thirds from Cold War levels. President Yeltsin and I already have agreed on a framework for START 3 to cut our nuclear arsenal even further.”

    Clinton also announced that the two super powers agreed to share warning information on worldwide launches of ballistic missiles and space launchers. Clinton referred to an agreement by which Russia and America would no longer target each others missiles. Yet in a secret CIA report to Congress, “detargeting” is purely symbolic and does nothing to affect the targeting of strategic nuclear missiles. Placing nuclear missiles in a non target status is like putting your DVD player on pause. When you’re ready to launch, just hit the retarget button and bombs away. What’s more, there is no way of verifying if Russian missiles are in detargeted mode or not.

    President Clinton went to great lengths to satisfy political debts. Of this there is no doubt. As Governor of Arkansas he saw to it that cash donors to his political campaign were given special consideration and awarded with lucrative contracts, and that same pattern stayed with him throughout his entire political career and beyond.

    In 1998, CIA Director George Tenet testified that the radical Muslim regime in Iran was getting a great deal of technical assistance and materials from Russia. The year before he had testified that along with Russia, North Korea was providing technology to Iran and that it wouldn’t be more than a year before Iran would have their own medium range nuclear missiles. In 1999 Tenet once again told the Senate that the flow of missile technology had not stopped and in the last six months Russian expertise and material was flowing to Iran’s missile construction allowing them to develop more sophisticated weapons and longer range missiles. Before sanctions could be brought against various Russian companies, Iran conducted the first test flight of its new medium-range missile. This act of aggression clearly showed that Iran was now capable of destroying any threat in the Middle East as well as most of Central Europe with chemical and biological weapons.

    In no uncertain terms, Clinton had helped Russia modernize her weapons systems to the tune of billions of dollars, while at the same time and behind our backs, Russia continued a secret campaign to weaponize Iran. Clinton, for all his attempts at marginalizing the seriousness of Russia’s nuclear weapons programs had failed to properly assess the Russian threat.

    That Russia was involved in nuclear proliferation to our enemies was a national security failure of monstrous proportions. That a United States President would willfully and knowingly sell, trade, or supply nuclear weapons technology to our oldest adversary is one of the greatest crimes committed against the people he is sworn to protect. It gets worse. Clinton was aware that Russia had been supplying highly sensitive technology and materials to our enemy, the Iranians.

    In a closed door meeting held at the Kremlin, in May of 1998, White House National Security Adviser Samuel Berger told Russian Security Council Secretary Andrei Kokoshin: “One and a half years after President Yeltsin told President Clinton that ballistic missile technology transfers to Iran would stop, it still continues… Now time is running out; the stakes are great… Unless this problem is solved we see a potential trainwreck in our relations.” Why was it up to Yeltsin to end the transfers? Why was Clinton allowing Russia to give defense secrets to Iran? Did Clinton have something to gain from allowing this? The answer can be found in a shocking conversation. On March 13, 1996, Clinton and Yeltsin met in Egypt. The minutes of this meeting were recorded in a classified document called “a memorandum of conversation.”

    The document was obtained by Bill Gertz of the Washington Times and discloses President Yeltsin saying to Clinton that because of his global stature he should “support Russia and that means supporting Yeltsin.” Clinton responds by raising an issue: Russia’s refusal to allow imports of American chicken. At the time Russia was importing about 40% of America’s chickens. The major supplier of chickens in the U.S. comes from Tyson Foods of Arkansas. Owner Don Tyson, just so happens to be one of Bill Clinton’s biggest financial donors. The Russian ban on chicken imports was not without reason: the U.S. had been flooding Russia with poor quality chicken. With the ban in effect, Tyson’s profits were suffering and he needed Clinton to do something about it. Clinton, according to the classified document, assured Yeltsin that the situation was being handled. Yeltsin agreed to resume imports for continued support from Clinton. Within one week, the chicken dispute was settled and Tyson was back in business.

    It was less than 50 years ago that two American citizens were tried, convicted and executed for passing information about the atomic bomb to the Russians. Their names were Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. A co-conspirator, Harry Gold was sentenced to 15 years for being the courier. They were convicted under Section 2 of the Espionage Act of 1917, 50 U.S. Code 32 (now 18 U.S. Code 794) which prohibits transmitting or attempting to transmit to a foreign government information “relating to the national defense.” In my opinion, Bill Clinton violated the same statute and should suffer the same consequences.

    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member


    In 1996 President Bill Clinton, at a fund raising dinner in New York City said this: “There are no more nuclear missiles pointed at any children in the United States. I’m proud of that.” But by 1998, the CIA’s National Intelligence Daily stated that “thirteen of China’s 18 long-range intercontinental ballistic missiles are targeted on the United States.” How could such a discrepancy occur? When did Clinton know and what did he do to prevent this dangerous situation? These are valid questions and in light of Clinton’s involvement in Russia’s nuclear weapons advancements, I shudder to think that this too was a result of Clinton’s business dealings.

    CNN reported how China has been stealing our most sensitive nuclear secrets in an article dated May 25, 1999 and posted on their website. The article was called: China stole U.S. nuke secrets to ‘fulfill international agenda.’ The article reveals that China has been stealing the most sensitive nuclear secrets for several decades and despite high-level knowledge of the thefts, security at U.S. nuclear labs still “does not meet even minimal standards.” The CNN article goes on to state that President Clinton had known since 1995 and yet little was done about it. In April 1998 Congressman Dana Rohrabacher (R-California) disclosed detailed information that U.S. aerospace companies had helped China improve its strategic nuclear missiles as part of a major ICBM modernization effort. The named companies were listed as Loral Space & Communications Ltd., Hughes Electronics, and Motorola as supplying the Chinese with space launch technology which China used to improve its nuclear missiles.

    Congressman Rohrabacher went on to say: “There is ample evidence that American technology was transferred to this hostile potential enemy of the United States… (providing) the Communist Chinese the guidance needed to upgrade and perfect highly sophisticated weapons systems, increasing the reliability and capability of Communist Chinese rockets… This has given, what anyone has to admit is at least a potential enemy of the United States, a better ability to deliver nuclear warheads to our country, to American cities, to incinerate millions of our people.” Was there a connection between Bill Clinton and any of the three corporations named as supplying China with materials that improved the lethality of their missiles? I’m glad I asked that question.

    The chairman of Loral Space &Communications was a heavy financial donor to Bill Clinton and the Democratic Party in general. His name is Bernard Schwartz and in a six year period between 1992 and 1998 he donated over $1.1 million to Clinton and the party. To show his appreciation, President Clinton allowed Schwartz to travel to China with U.S. Commerce Secretary Ron Brown. Clinton loosened export controls which enabled Schwartz to purchase Chinese booster rockets for use in launching Loral’s satellites. The relaxing of controls was a two way street and gave the Chinese an avenue with which to import hi tech materials from Loral and other U.S. corporations that dealt in sophisticated electronics.

    Hughes Electronics was also named in Rohrabacher’s report. Its CEO, C. Michael Armstrong lobbied Clinton to relax the export controls of sensitive technology. An internal White House memo dated December 8, 1993 and originating from the National Security Council, detailed how Armstrong pressured the administration into easing the trade restrictions with China. Armstrong had threatened to launch a major publicity campaign against the administrations sanctions if the controls were not relaxed. In 1996, a Chinese rocket (missile) carrying a $200 million Loral satellite exploded on its launch pad. Loral and Hughes put together a team of scientists to investigate the problem. The problem(s) were identified and the information was given to the Chinese consortium Great Wall Industry, a subsidiary of China Aerospace Corporation. Armed with the information supplied by Hughes and Loral, the Chinese were able to upgrade their nuclear ICBM’s.

    Why did President Clinton allow this? Well it was determined that the Chinese were secretly funneling large donations to the Clinton campaign. Federal investigators found that China Aerospace Corporation had given $300,000 to Democratic fundraiser Johnny Chung for Clinton’s election. In 1993, it was discoverer that China was selling missile technology to Pakistan. Under tremendous pressure from Congress, Clinton banned U.S. space industry from using Chinese rockets to launch their satellites. The ban didn’t last long and in October 1994, Clinton lifted the ban. Despite reports that China had continued to sell nuclear technology to Pakistan and missiles to Iran, Clinton signed waivers for four U.S. satellites to be launched by Chinese rockets. Clinton did this over strong objections from the State and Defense Departments. Johnny Chung and Loral’s Schwartz donated another $100,000 each to Clinton. The fact that Clinton personally issued the waivers to allow shipments of U.S. technology that greatly improved the accuracy and reliability of Communist China’s missiles is grounds for impeachment, regardless of whether or not there was any quid pro quo for those decisions.

    President Bill Clinton did more to damage U.S. national security than anyone else in American history. He is a traitor to our interests and he is guilty of espionage. He should have been arrested, impeached and convicted. The question is, how did this story escape mass media attention?

    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member

    Disprove me.

    Thats right you can't

    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member

    I'd say prop you are if anyone. I'm exposing collusion between the Russians and the Clintons and you think its bad of me to do so. Why is that? Are you Russian? lol

    I'd give a shit less if you were anyway or Chinese.
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    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member

    Prob is true that Russians are on the internet, along with the Chinese, NK, English, Germans, French etc. but the leftist also do this as well. Their job is to redicule and deflect the truth. They usually offer no counter thoughts on the matter and just poke fun and accuse the poster who made the correct analysis of being an "agent" lol.

    I bring fact and truth when I post. What do you bring? nothing.

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    Oh! Hi!!!!!

    For once a real conspiracy. You sure do love your conspiracies. But this one isn't a secret nor is it fake. This time for real. Russia did in fact collude with Trump's campaign staffers about suberting the US election.

    You know, don't you, that it doesn't matter who conducts social media propaganda campaigns, it's all bad. Your "yeah but they do it too" line of logic is fake. There is no pardon to be given to Russia for what they did to Ukraine or the US just because the it can be shown the US engages in the same evil act. Fuck Putin too. He's an awful leader for Russia. He set any progress towards democracy and rule of law in Russia back decades. Also wasting resources on a bloated military budget.
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