Seen many posts flaming Advanced Nutrients.Anyone had good or better than good result

That is your LED grow, right? How far away do you keep your lights? How often do you top off your res and pH adjust? Is the 16-19 range for your room or res?

Nice to see someone besides myself to acknowledge that GH has a quality 3-part I have had the best results using GH and trust me I have wasted alot of money trying to find a better system and not yet found it. The closest I have found though and did impress me on a few things was Cutting Edge Solutions 3-part if GH prices go up I will probably switch to the product line.

homebrewer said:

That is your LED grow, right? How far away do you keep your lights? How often do you top off your res and pH adjust? Is the 16-19 range for your room or res?

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Hi Dude,

Yep that"s it. The LED is about 12 inches away, I run a 6 day week. And I was adjusting the pH daily until i found that my pH meter wasn't working then I fell back to the old faithful drops..

Correction on the res temp is 13. Is it too cold?? Everyone only talks about too hot but what happens if too cold? The roots are not slimy or moucousy no slim on noticeable algea. I think the coloration is just the nutes..


Pure...

I've done GH, Advanced Nutrients, and I am currently running canna.
So far my best results have been with GH.

AN has an easy feeding schedule, and their nutes are high quality. But way overpriced in my opinion. The bases need to be supplemented with so many additives and they all cost an arm and a leg. To be honest I didn't see any amazing increases in yield or quality. I will probably never buy those products again. (Cost was about 400 for one relatively small grow). If you like AN and that is your thing, stick with it I guess. In my eyes though I feel AN is just really not worth the money. If AN is all you have ever used, try GH or botanicare or something, and you will see your results will be pretty much the same at a fraction of the cost.

I'm running canna right now, so far there products seems pretty good but I am running new strains this time around so it will be hard to make a fair comparison. One thing i have noticed is my PH is waaaaaaaay more stable with canna than with AN. AN had incredibly unstable ph.

I used AN products for a few years, still do in a more limited capacity... Good stuff, but I don't think its head and shoulders better than say a BC or DM among a few others.. I like some of their products that others dont offer just like I like DM for some of the products they have that AN doesn't..

I've since been using BC but am considering switching up to DM completely for awhile to check out the results and compare..

AN is good stuff, just spendy imo

Pure said:

Hi Dude,

Yep that"s it. The LED is about 12 inches away, I run a 6 day week. And I was adjusting the pH daily until i found that my pH meter wasn't working then I fell back to the old faithful drops..

Correction on the res temp is 13. Is it too cold?? Everyone only talks about too hot but what happens if too cold? The roots are not slimy or moucousy no slim on noticeable algea. I think the coloration is just the nutes..


Pure...

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13C is way too cold for your res. Get those temps up to 18C at a minimum. This could be your issue right there.

SouthSide- A few companies use the same 3 part ratio that GH came up with 30 years ago. AN is one, along with humboldt and cutting edge. All of them should would great as long as they fit into your budget.

@ homebrewer
Thx Bro
So dude so I have 2 options both feasible:
1. Space heater (500w additional to my circuit) I'll use if the entire plant needs a warmer room also. The room itself is about 65/16
2. Aquarium heaters, practically no hit on the circuit running the two of them..

@ Banditt
Thx dude - I hate to jump off of the nutes. but I guess i can still use the bud candy, and the big bud and the root juice with canna or GH base nutes right?



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Pure said:

@ homebrewer
Thx Bro
So dude so I have 2 options both feasible:
1. Space heater (500w additional to my circuit) I'll use if the entire plant needs a warmer room also. The room itself is about 65/16
2. Aquarium heaters, practically no hit on the circuit running the two of them..

@ Banditt
Thx dude - I hate to jump off of the nutes. but I guess i can still use the bud candy, and the big bud and the root juice with canna or GH base nutes right?



Pure...

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yeah you should be able to use those additives in just about any base nutrient.

An aquarium heater seems more efficient. 19-23C is what my temp range is and I don't have any issues related to res temps.

dudes,
I threw them back on 24 hour lighting Once they've shown some solid growth I'll throw them back on 18/6 Changing the res today. I'll flower with another nute line on my next run...

Connoisseur+supplement lineup- conni lasted close to a year. Supplements have lasted over a year- with the exception of bud candy. 6 perpetual harvests of two plants each- 12.5 to 14oz each harvest, one plant gave me +7 oz. s.s. white russian.

Dude finally !!! Nice push Jesus Christ!!

+Rep dude...


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Pure said:

Dude finally !!! Nice push Jesus Christ!!

+Rep dude...


Pure...

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thanks man, back at ya!!

I have too have seen alot of posts bashing a.n., I heard good things and bad things, and just went for it. There base conni lasted me longer than two bottles each of tiger and big. just have to see for yourself, so I ran out of conni and went with an aussie product called advanced floriculture. If you dont try a product based on bad mouthing alone, then you will never know. So needless to say, even with great yields of exceptional quality bud from connoisseur, im still going to try different products to see what they are about. Stay green.

Thats some nice looking bud outstanding job.

Those are good looking plants. What strain?

The cooler the rocket fuel's name, the better your results, guaranteed. IOW, choose based on claims, cool colorful labels, and fine sounding names!

homebrewer said:

I'd be glad to have you follow along and applaud your due-diligence.

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i always used only advanced nutrients... at first I used the charts in the back of the bottles AND I BURNED THE FUCK OUTTA MY PLANTS (I grow Hydro in bins) but then when I went on the AN website I found charts there that were totally different (about 70% less concentrated in the veg and 30% in bud OMFG I had overnute problems all of the lol) .. Sensi A and B will automatically ph your water to 5.6 SHARP which is fuken awesome... but conoisseur AndB will NOT ... also AN REVIVE helped me alot.. great product... can use as foliar spray too... voodoo juice gave me INSANE results but its real shit so be prepared to smell the real farm

I love a.n. I just used on a grow that i got late in the season from a friend and he hadnt given it anything but water and it was starting to flower so it was quickly off to the store to get sensi bloom a and b and some bud candy and the an bloom cal mag. I know it says you dont need to add any cal mag because sensi is supposed to have enough but i did at half strength with good results unfortunately all i got is cell phone pics and the damn bud worms got me lol.

The smoke i did get though was flavorful as hell and potent the nut's really brought that plant up to par real quick after it being starved its whole life. I grow so much in soil though that it makes more sense for me to mix up some super soil its cheaper for me that way but if i was still doing hydro i would be using advanced still

Pure said:

@ hugetom80s - thanks for the info on how it works or at least in theory.

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You're welcome. I guess we'll see how close I was to getting it all right.

RRLBT420 said:

i used sensi a+b and i added Cal-Mag plus from botanicare...

ok so they may be able to be absorbed at most ph ranges, but it's a good thing because from what i've seen the ph is incredibly unstable, and hard to adjust.

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Just a thought here, but how can you be sure that it wasn't the Botanicare Cal-Mag that was causing the instability? It could be that it just doesn't play nice with the new AN line.

I've never once had any trouble with deficiencies with Sensi so you might want to try it without the Botanicare, or at least with AN's Cal-Mag to rule that out. Advanced Nutes have always been really stable and balanced for me.

homebrewer said:

As much as I don't like AN, I don't think nutes are your problem here. The plants look thirsty or over-watered. Are your pumps or misters or whatever running ok? How is your timer working?

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I would agree with your assessment, that's not a nutrient problem (though I disagree on the not liking AN part - I do like them a lot. Just my personal preference there.)

All nutes can produce big yields if you dial in the recipe. But it is not just the nutes that achieve the big harvests it is the gardener and how he or she works there ladies. I have tried about everything out there because of where i worked and i am still useing GH because I was able to dial it in alot quicker and if you want to see result look at my profile and you can look a some pics. I will be posting more in a few days so you can see a updated version of the Jah and others after just a week since the last pics. I think what ever line you use and you give the ladies proper care and attention you will do great in all areas.