sick plants please help

hello fellow forum peeps im in desperate need of help ryt ere go's

strain= the widow
medium= soil now but when they wer seedlings i had them in coco but thats when my problems started so i switched to soil im using just some basic compost and soil and a bit of coco not much coco just to help fill my pot which are 40 ltr 10 gal !! so the problem im having is my older bottom leaves are going like a pail green but the veins are stayin dark green and the edges of the leaves are going rusty the top of my plant looks very healthy its just at the bottom on the older leaves and to be onest my growth isent very fast i think its some sort of defischencie but im not sure which 1 now coz iv tryd everything iv upd my calmag iv added epsome salts iv give them a complete food so im lost and need the help of the masters lol ill upload a few photos so use can take a look for your self

aww god i hope my babys aint dying

when im in the grow room the plants look a lot worst then in these photos and some of the leaves where worst with the end all crusty and rusty

scott smith said:

hello fellow forum peeps im in desperate need of help ryt ere go's

strain= the widow
medium= soil now but when they wer seedlings i had them in coco but thats when my problems started so i switched to soil im using just some basic compost and soil and a bit of coco not much coco just to help fill my pot which are 40 ltr 10 gal !! so the problem im having is my older bottom leaves are going like a pail green but the veins are stayin dark green and the edges of the leaves are going rusty the top of my plant looks very healthy its just at the bottom on the older leaves and to be onest my growth isent very fast i think its some sort of defischencie but im not sure which 1 now coz iv tryd everything iv upd my calmag iv added epsome salts iv give them a complete food so im lost and need the help of the masters lol ill upload a few photos so use can take a look for your self

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when im in the grow room the plants look a lot worst then in these photos and some of the leaves where worst with the end all crusty and rusty

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Kinda hard to tell if its just the bottom leaves or the whole plant that's effected. If its just the first couple leaves on the bottom it could be normal. If theyre all starting to look like that then its probably magnesium. If the whole plant is pale its probably lack of food in general. My "widow" is looking great. GorrilaSeedBank freebie? Its the middle one

Alienwidow said:

Kinda hard to tell if its just the bottom leaves or the whole plant that's effected. If its just the first couple leaves on the bottom it could be normal. If theyre all starting to look like that then its probably magnesium. If the whole plant is pale its probably lack of food in general. My "widow" is looking great. GorrilaSeedBank freebie? View attachment 3581144Its the middle one

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THANK MY FRIEND

scott smith said:

THANK MY FRIEND

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NO I BOUGHT 10 OF THEM FROM GORILLA LIKE LOL

scott smith said:

NO I BOUGHT 10 OF THEM FROM GORILLA LIKE LOL

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Well mines killing it so far. I really think it looks like a good production style plant. All the branches have reached the top already without topping and it seems like its going to be very sturdy. I dont know whats going on with yours but id guess it has something to do with inexperience and not the seed itself.

Alienwidow said:

Well mines killing it so far. I really think it looks like a good production style plant. All the branches have reached the top already without topping and it seems like its going to be very sturdy. I dont know whats going on with yours but id guess it has something to do with inexperience and not the seed itself.

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i dont no what the problem is when there in the tent they look like the leaves are def but when i take them out they look okay but theres deffo sumert going on im guna upload some more photos now to see if any1 can help me

scott smith said:

i dont no what the problem is when there in the tent they look like the leaves are def but when i take them out they look okay but theres deffo sumert going on im guna upload some more photos now to see if any1 can help me

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yeah your plants look mint lol very nice how long you been growing?

scott smith said:

yeah your plants look mint lol very nice how long you been growing?

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Ive been growing five years. Ive discovered that the plants are super easy to grow. All you have to do is give them everything they want
No seriously theyre a cinch. Its all about making them comfortable. Good soil (I prefer soiless) good air flow, good a/c, good lights, and the right feeding shedule and knowing what goes in. A ppm meter is a must have. I stick with synthetic nutrients because who has time for organic food to break down for the plant to absorb it? The biggest thing about growing is that it takes money to make money. If you rely on the grow for cash your going to fail because you constantly have to dump cash into it. Most people fail because their cheap. Lights too expensive? Nope, get the best. Cant afford an a/c or dehu? Then dont grow. Dont have extra money for bug spray? Your peckered. But if you do it all right, youll be one happy guy smoking some great meds.

Alienwidow said:

Ive been growing five years. Ive discovered that the plants are super easy to grow. All you have to do is give them everything they want
No seriously theyre a cinch. Its all about making them comfortable. Good soil (I prefer soiless) good air flow, good a/c, good lights, and the right feeding shedule and knowing what goes in. A ppm meter is a must have. I stick with synthetic nutrients because who has time for organic food to break down for the plant to absorb it? The biggest thing about growing is that it takes money to make money. If you rely on the grow for cash your going to fail because you constantly have to dump cash into it. Most people fail because their cheap. Lights too expensive? Nope, get the best. Cant afford an a/c or dehu? Then dont grow. Dont have extra money for bug spray? Your peckered. But if you do it all right, youll be one happy guy smoking some great meds.

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what nute do you use and what would you recomend

It looks pretty good. Im leaning twards magnesium but its always good to get a little info first. What brand of soil is it? And what have you been feeding it and how much, how often. Also is the light adequate because sometimes yellowing leaves at the bottom can be because of not enough lit getting to them?

the soil is just your basic cheap stuff from a hardware store iv got a cupboard full of nutes but the cal mg im using is plant magic and the rest is mostly canna iv added a bit of epsom salt and blood fish bone meal to the soil and my lighting iv got 4 600 watt cooltube but im only running 2 of them coz im only in veg week 5-6 i was thinking magnesium my self going of what iv researched but iv giv the plants plenty of it and sprayed with epsom salts iv tryd everything and now maybe i think im overfeeding tryin to sort the problem out my temps are perfect 26 and my humidity is perfect for veg 55-60%

Alienwidow said:

It looks pretty good. Im leaning twards magnesium but its always good to get a little info first. What brand of soil is it? And what have you been feeding it and how much, how often. Also is the light adequate because sometimes yellowing leaves at the bottom can be because of not enough lit getting to them?

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what u cant see in the pictures is the very bottom leaves the edges wer going brown and rustys

Plants look small still for those containers. Have you been getting runoff? If no, dont think you need to be having all kinds of runoff, you just need to remember that all the fertilizer is staying in the root zone. So you dont have to feed that much.

You could be right about the over feeding, theres burnt tips, and what COULD be burnt leaves. Usually regular 2 part canna specific nutrient line ups have super high nitrogen amounts and youll see dark green almost black leaves and clawing on the top leaves. What is the npk values of the fertilizer you are using? It could be over feeding the p or k which makes sense with burnt lower leaves.

ive just been top dressing my soil with worm castings rock dust bone meal etc because i dident get very good results with canna im maybe thinking just straight ph'd water for a week or 2 and im guna buy a bottle of medi one to keep it simple until i start a fresh crop and even then just feed the medi one when the plant look like they need it i think iv over thought it and try to many different things to get rid of the problem lol rookie mistake i no

Alienwidow said:

Plants look small still for those containers. Have you been getting runoff? If no, dont think you need to be having all kinds of runoff, you just need to remember that all the fertilizer is staying in the root zone. So you dont have to feed that much.

You could be right about the over feeding, theres burnt tips, and what COULD be burnt leaves. Usually regular 2 part canna specific nutrient line ups have super high nitrogen amounts and youll see dark green almost black leaves and clawing on the top leaves. What is the npk values of the fertilizer you are using? It could be over feeding the p or k which makes sense with burnt lower leaves.

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i would just like to thank you alienwidow for taking your time to help a newbie like my self thats really cool

scott smith said:

i would just like to thank you alienwidow for taking your time to help a newbie like my self thats really cool

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Any time,thats what the sites all about. Cheers.

They look good defiantly not dying the leaf losing its colour might be nitrogen defincy

cannabisweedPotNerd said:

They look good defiantly not dying the leaf losing its colour might be nitrogen defincy

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thanks cannabisweedpotnerd lol thats a mouthful of a name u no what when there under the hps light the leaves look def but when i took them out the tent to take photos they looked miles better iv try allsorts the last 3 weeks and my mate said join a good forum theres loads of master growers who help so this was my last resort if they get really bad ill rip the leaves of and try and take some good photos i think i maybe have nute lock out now iv try that much watchin vidoes and tryin different stuff i mite of over done it lol live AND learn

cannabisweedPotNerd said:

They look good defiantly not dying the leaf losing its colour might be nitrogen defincy

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im guna flush my plants and start a fresh what nute would you recomend for a soil grow its just some cheap soil and compost and im in week 5 veg moneys no object really i can afford any nutes

Alienwidow said:

Any time,thats what the sites all about. Cheers.

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im guna flush my plants and start a fresh what nute would you recomend for a soil grow its just some cheap soil and compost and im in week 5 veg moneys no object really i can afford any nutes like you said get the best