Sr. Verde's: Concentrate Corner
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Matt Rize
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Check my thread out. https://www.rollitup.org/organics/367111-bubble-hash-aka-ice-wax.html
Im hella OCD about making the extract so there is lots of little tips in that thread. Perfection of the ice water process is the only way to get ice water extract that is better than bho.
dankshizzle
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Just made this.
I did have to add heat but I did it outside. Turned out great. Really melty
I did have to add heat but I did it outside. Turned out great. Really melty
jonblaze420
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Found this recipe on your thread Matt that really interested me.
I'll share it here in case someone from Toke n talk needs quick tincture.
Is it as strong (as the dark method), have you tried it?
What's the reason that the freezer method is so much quicker do you know too? Sorry if this sounds like 20 questions but this could really help me.
I'll share it here in case someone from Toke n talk needs quick tincture.
Is it as strong (as the dark method), have you tried it?
What's the reason that the freezer method is so much quicker do you know too? Sorry if this sounds like 20 questions but this could really help me.
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
I've done both methods. I think the freezer methods makes a cleaner tincture and the dark method makes a more potent tincture.Found this recipe on your thread Matt that really interested me.
I'll share it here in case someone from Toke n talk needs quick tincture.
Is it as strong (as the dark method), have you tried it?
What's the reason that the freezer method is so much quicker do you know too? Sorry if this sounds like 20 questions but this could really help me.
Sr. Verde
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i wonder if it is similar to BHO/ ISO
We know:
when considering temperatures, bho runs through the tube extremely cold, as it's going through a high pressure to a low pressure.... and the ice cold BHO running through the tube simply strips the plant matter of the trichomes.......
However, when making QWISO.. the alcohol is room temp, and it is known that if you expose the room temperature iso alcohol to the plant matter for too long chlorophyll can begin to be stripped from the plant matter... resulting in green, planty 'hash oil' (hence the quick wash)
So I wonder if the temperature of our solvents effects the chlorophyll in different ways
We know:
when considering temperatures, bho runs through the tube extremely cold, as it's going through a high pressure to a low pressure.... and the ice cold BHO running through the tube simply strips the plant matter of the trichomes.......
However, when making QWISO.. the alcohol is room temp, and it is known that if you expose the room temperature iso alcohol to the plant matter for too long chlorophyll can begin to be stripped from the plant matter... resulting in green, planty 'hash oil' (hence the quick wash)
So I wonder if the temperature of our solvents effects the chlorophyll in different ways
oakley1984
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speaking from an experience side of things, Definitely.
oakley1984
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that is correct sir. solvent properties change considerably with temperature and pressure. dry ice everything
haha yeah, thats my next step matt, im going to take my current iso method, extend my contact time with my material, but im going to make poor mans liquid nitrogen to do it with (99% iso + dry ice pellets)
oakley1984
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i put my iso AND my material in the Deep freezer for at least a WEEK before i make my stuff, at least -15c all the way though..
Sr. Verde
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Awesome idea for a tek dude. Just be careful with the dry ice. Dry ice can have serious, immediate/violent reactions..... !
Way to think outside the box.
Sr. Verde
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Now should we keep our trichs on the plant matter warm or cold?
Would a temperature difference be key or no? If we can only cool ISO so much, what if we increase the difference by slightly warming the plant matter?
Like what if we warmed our material above some hot hot tap water (with a glass barrier like a pan of course )..... then we ran super cold butane over it?
Messing with temperatures opens up totally new doors to isolating oil properties
PS: Nobody do what I'm talking about, you may possibly blow yourself up, I don't know - I haven't tried any of this /\
Would a temperature difference be key or no? If we can only cool ISO so much, what if we increase the difference by slightly warming the plant matter?
Like what if we warmed our material above some hot hot tap water (with a glass barrier like a pan of course
)..... then we ran super cold butane over it? Messing with temperatures opens up totally new doors to isolating oil properties
PS: Nobody do what I'm talking about, you may possibly blow yourself up, I don't know - I haven't tried any of this /\
oakley1984
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Now should we be keeping the the trichs warm or cold in BHO?
Would a temperature differential be key or no?
Like what if we warmed our material above some hot hot tap water (with a glass barrier like a pan of course
Messing with temperatures opens up totally new doors to isolating oil properties
one method i read about from an old hippies book was taking your material and putting it in the oven around 200F for about 5min on a cookie sheet before running it, supposedly brings out the resins within the leaves as well, meanwhile increasing the solubility of the resins
(eg ever tried to clean a pipe when its cold compared to hot)
Brimi
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Hi Guys - i still get a very low output. From 20 gr. of Jack Herer i only get like 1-1.5 grams of budder. I use a 1inch tube - 1 foot long. Cap with 1 hole for gas in one end and just a coffee filter in the bottom. Ground up weed - not too fine. Made it pack pretty good in the bottom and used 2 bottles of gas. Anyone who can tell me if this can be tweaked to get most of my cannabinoids extracted?
oakley1984
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not trying to sound like a jerk, but use better material.. low input, low output...
people always get turned onto oil because they believe they can make gold out of garbage... doesnt really work that way
your just concentrating whats already there, so if your starting with what would be considered garbage, your just gonna get concentrated garbage
people always get turned onto oil because they believe they can make gold out of garbage... doesnt really work that way
your just concentrating whats already there, so if your starting with what would be considered garbage, your just gonna get concentrated garbage
researchkitty
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2 bottles of 300ml gas should be enough.............. Thats the only suggestion I have really, other than the Jack probably just was real low in potency and that's just what you got............. Always try running another can of butane through!
researchkitty
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You can make oil out of trim or low quality weed (aka "garbage" to you)............ The problem with it isnt the quality of oil, its that stuffing it in a tube so many times takes so long it isnt cost nor time effective to do it versus making bubble hash out of instead as an example.......... For every ounce of good quality herb someone runs, they have to do 5x or 10x that many runs to get the same amount of oil............not trying to sound like a jerk, but use better material.. low input, low output...
people always get turned onto oil because they believe they can make gold out of garbage... doesnt really work that way
your just concentrating whats already there, so if your starting with what would be considered garbage, your just gonna get concentrated garbage
oakley1984
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i wasnt implying you couldnt, was trying state using a low quality product to begin with, will give you low yields, and an inferior product compared to using material of high quality eg, sugarleaf, popcorn buds, bottom of the bag stuff or full on bud for some of us...
researchkitty
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For sure oakley! I've been using the popcorn buds for the most part, after about 6 or 7 ounces gave me 14.xx g of oil which sounds about right for the quality stuffed in there...........
I'd like to run ten pounds of nugs one day just to see if I could fill the entire pyrex dish with oil once purged and collected.................... I dont think ms kitty would allow that =)
I'd like to run ten pounds of nugs one day just to see if I could fill the entire pyrex dish with oil once purged and collected.................... I dont think ms kitty would allow that =)