Weouthere

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Hey guys! thanks for reading. My leaves are showing me something’s not right still..

480w led, 4x4 tent
FFOF/HF/EWC
5 gal Geopots
Tap water - really good, no chlorine or fluoride!
Week 4 since flip. Vegged for 7-8 weeks.

I have 3 plants; Farmers Fire, ATF, and Icicles. I gave them all mostly the same stuff (dumbass mistake) as well as giving them too much nutrient wise.
I got advice from others it was extreme nutrient burn/pH issues.
I flushed with pH’ed water and it slowed the issue. I’ve just been giving water and Killer Tea (0.2-0.2-0.2).
It seemed to get better for a couple days, but I’m noticing more and more of this weird stuff happening.
The Famers Fire is getting dark spots in all over, like a Ca or Mag deficiency.
ATF has burn spots and really weird dark spots/veins.
Icicles has purple/red leaves only on like half the plant. Some are starting to yellow and all the stems are purple.
Pics of plants are (in order) Farmers Fire, ATF, Icicles.
any advice is welcome. I know plants yellow /change colors late in flower I just don’t think it’s late enough for it..
 

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Weouthere

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So..
I have Jacks 10-30-20, should I flush them with a small dose of that? Its got all the micro nutrients as well.
 

polishpollack

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What is EWC?
Did you give any fert at any point in the grow?
It doesn't look like they're finished when you consider the bud development. I'm thinking the soil is out of nutes. I'd hate to tell you give a dose of Jack's and see what happens, but don't know what else to tell you. If you gave nothing except the tea up to this point, chances are the soil is out of nutes and needs a shot. This grow is well into the process, about 11-12 weeks along. Most people come here with problems very early in the grow and say they have trouble after giving too much fert too early. I wonder if yours is the opposite, depending on how much you've given since these were planted. Good news is, you did good so far and will have something significant even if giving more fert is wrong. The problem with that is you don't want fert in the plant when you harvest. you have to give just water for a week or two before harvest to flush the ferts. Perhaps good idea would be to let them die, be grateful, and use larger container with more soil next time. You pay more in soil but will reap the reward of not having to add more later or worry about it.
 

Weouthere

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What is EWC?
Did you give any fert at any point in the grow?
It doesn't look like they're finished when you consider the bud development. I'm thinking the soil is out of nutes. I'd hate to tell you give a dose of Jack's and see what happens, but don't know what else to tell you. If you gave nothing except the tea up to this point, chances are the soil is out of nutes and needs a shot. This grow is well into the process, about 11-12 weeks along. Most people come here with problems very early in the grow and say they have trouble after giving too much fert too early. I wonder if yours is the opposite, depending on how much you've given since these were planted. Good news is, you did good so far and will have something significant even if giving more fert is wrong. The problem with that is you don't want fert in the plant when you harvest. you have to give just water for a week or two before harvest to flush the ferts. Perhaps good idea would be to let them die, be grateful, and use larger container with more soil next time. You pay more in soil but will reap the reward of not having to add more later or worry about it.
EWC is earth worm castings!
I gave mostly tea during veg. Once or twice it got a dose of Extreme Serene (basically kelp). A few doses of Epsom salts and calmag.
Top dressed 2 days before flip with same soil mix.
A little after flip I gave some FF Big Bloom. Fed them more two waterings later.
Gave some Jacks after that, again after that. Then I had to flush.. I think I had burned it. They’ve gotten just tea for the last 2 waterings now, about a week.
the 4th pic is really confusing me. I can’t find pics or anything that looks like that.
 

70's natureboy

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The root zone has a weird mix of nutes and the plants don't seem to like it. They look pretty normal for that type of grow. Too bad you didn't try the KISS method on a couple and just use Pro Mix and Floranova. You would find that simpler is better.
 

kingkush4200

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Careful flushing to much at this important point in flower it is very important they have enough food to grow ... be careful of anything making them cold especially with cold water as that purpling on the leaf i suspect may be why the leaf is purple phosphorus def from cold temps / cold water/ medium. but it could be genetic. still regardless try and keep night time temps up and the medium / roots warmer if you think that could be it. My purple afghan kush goes crazy fuckin purple, but my GsC only goes purple when it gets super cold or i feed to cold and its not a good looking purple and can happen in veg..

what did u feed them to think they are burnt?
Why exactly do you think the plant is nute burned or ph?? the yellowing looks like hungry for N, nute burn is well.. more burny crispy etc... the tips r hardly even brown yet.

was the yellowing and the few burning leaves instant after a feed? or slow over flower?

The leafs r praying the pistils are white and looks to be budding nicely... but yellowing from the bottom. with some random deficiency symptoms
they look hungry!:weed: and maybe a little cold or over watering/heavy flushing... how long between waterings and how much?
they are decent sized plants probably chewed up the food in that soil.

So you gave no extra feeding except fox farm soil worm castings and teas?

If thats the case, you should definately hit it with like a 600-700ppm bloom feed at 6 - 6.5ph... if you have decent tap water should be that much after nutes anyway, id bet if u flushed the soil lost its buffer, you may have flushed thinking its nute lockout or something when the plant is just hungry.

when you feed attain a small amount of runoff and measure ppm / ph.
 
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polishpollack

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If it were me, I'd just give water, let them die then harvest. almost finished anyway. I'd consider using larger container with more soil and avoid trying to give so much extra stuff.
The plants now really look like they need some nitrogen, but I'm not sure that giving any at this point is a good idea.
 
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