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ymustuknow

ymustuknow

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Hello all,
I am totally new to this, but I have been reading in here and looking around the net. I need a full set up and am thinking tent, ect. Can you tell me what you think of what I have picked out; should I look at a different brand/model and why. And if I am missing any items, please suggest thoughs too. I am allowed to grow 4 plants in each stage and 2lbs of final product in the house, and I'll only have one tent. Any and all info is invited.
Thanks for your help!

Spider Farmer® SF4000
Spider Farmer LED Grow Light Controller
Spider Farmer® 4’x4’x6.5′
Spider Farmer® 6-Inch 402 CFM Inline Fan with Smart Controller Carbon Filter & Ducting Combo
AC Infinity Grow Tent Trellis Netting 4x4'
General Tools MMD4E Digital Moisture Meter
Tulardom Digital PH Meter
SOILPHU 4-in-1 Soil Moisture Meter,Inspection Plant Temperature/Soil Moisture/PH Meter/Sunlight Intensity/Environment Humidity
SensorPush G1 WiFi/Ethernet Gateway
SensorPush HT.w Wireless Thermometer/Hygrometer
Moistenland WIFI Automatic Plant Waterer (might need a different one?)
 
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Treesomewanted77

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ymustuknow said:
Hello all,
I am totally new to this, but I have been reading in here and looking around the net. I need a full set up and am thinking tent, ect. Can you tell me what you think of what I have picked out; should I look at a different brand/model and why. And if I am missing any items, please suggest thoughs too. I am allowed to grow 4 plants in each stage and 2lbs of final product in the house, and I'll only have one tent. Any and all info is invited.
Thanks for your help!

Spider Farmer® SF4000
Spider Farmer LED Grow Light Controller
Spider Farmer® 4’x4’x6.5′
Spider Farmer® 6-Inch 402 CFM Inline Fan with Smart Controller Carbon Filter & Ducting Combo
AC Infinity Grow Tent Trellis Netting 4x4'
General Tools MMD4E Digital Moisture Meter
Tulardom Digital PH Meter
SOILPHU 4-in-1 Soil Moisture Meter,Inspection Plant Temperature/Soil Moisture/PH Meter/Sunlight Intensity/Environment Humidity
SensorPush G1 WiFi/Ethernet Gateway
SensorPush HT.w Wireless Thermometer/Hygrometer
Moistenland WIFI Automatic Plant Waterer (might need a different one?)
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Don’t trust the moisture meters either go by feel of the pot. When you fill it with fresh soil pick it up and feel it and see how heavy it is and only water when pots are light. Don’t worry about not watering often enough the plants will get real droopy when they need water but won’t just up and die quickly. Also when growing in soil you’re most likely fine running tap water as long as it’s not city water without worrying about PH.
 
secretmicrogrow420

secretmicrogrow420

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honestly everytime i have ever seen anyone rely on a moisture meter they always have problems over watering not sure if yours works or not but i wouldn't use one. but besides that all your equipment looks awesome i have always heard good things about spider farmers lights. a lot of people believe that 400watts in a 4x4 which is only 25 watts per square foot is too little and they recommend you bump it up to like 35 or 40 watts per square foot. but i am currently growing at 25watts per sq ft and its pretty bright in my tent! im liking this amount of light :)
ALSO your plant automatic waterer sucks bro look at this mars hydro one its pretty expensive but its nicemars hydro water.jpg
Here is link to the mars hydro one Mars hydro drip irrigation kit link
 
ymustuknow

ymustuknow

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Fangthane said:
I'd recommend spending the extra $$ and getting a better pH meter. I had a couple of those super-cheap ones you're looking at and they're total garbage. You'd be better off with GH test solution than a disposable meter.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Do you have a link to a good one?
 
ymustuknow

ymustuknow

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Treesomewanted77 said:
Don’t trust the moisture meters either go by feel of the pot. When you fill it with fresh soil pick it up and feel it and see how heavy it is and only water when pots are light. Don’t worry about not watering often enough the plants will get real droopy when they need water but won’t just up and die quickly. Also when growing in soil you’re most likely fine running tap water as long as it’s not city water without worrying about PH.
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Ok, no to the moisture meter, check (go by feel). I do have city water so I should worry or use a different solution?
 
ymustuknow

ymustuknow

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secretmicrogrow420 said:
honestly everytime i have ever seen anyone rely on a moisture meter they always have problems over watering not sure if yours works or not but i wouldn't use one. but besides that all your equipment looks awesome i have always heard good things about spider farmers lights. a lot of people believe that 400watts in a 4x4 which is only 25 watts per square foot is too little and they recommend you bump it up to like 35 or 40 watts per square foot. but i am currently growing at 25watts per sq ft and its pretty bright in my tent! im liking this amount of light :)
ALSO your plant automatic waterer sucks bro look at this mars hydro one its pretty expensive but its niceView attachment 5320341
Here is link to the mars hydro one Mars hydro drip irrigation kit link
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Good info, thanks. I will take a look at the Mars link too.
 
Fangthane

Fangthane

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Here are a couple that I have saved in my Amazon Cart. One cheapie and one ostensibly good one. I've had shit luck with pH meters, so I just use a liquid reagent for testing. It's a good idea to keep some of the reagent around, just to verify your meter's results from time to time.
 
Fangthane

Fangthane

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If you're looking to do automated watering, @manfredo posted a great list of Amazon links with everything one would need to build their own automated watering setup for $100-ish. I can't seem to find where it was posted, but maybe he'll see this and chime in.
 
Fangthane

Fangthane

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Screw it, I just dug through my cart and found most of the stuff for automation:

This isn't manfredo's exact recommended setup, but it's a general idea to get you started if you decide to go the DIY route.
 
ymustuknow

ymustuknow

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bursto said:
id go with the ph dye test kit get two , so you got a spare, blue lab truncheon ppm meter

then swap out the light for a bar style light
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Do you have links for these products? So I find the correct item(s). I'd appreicate it.
Also why switch lights? I am sure you have a reason(s), I am just curious. :)
 
bursto

bursto

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ymustuknow said:
Do you have links for these products? So I find the correct item(s). I'd appreicate it.
Also why switch lights? I am sure you have a reason(s), I am just curious. :)
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just think its a better spread of light in the tent and the money on some of the stuff you looking at could go to a good spiderfarmer bar sytle light


www.ebay.com

Flairform PH Test Kit | eBay

How accurate is Flairform’s pH Test Kit?.
www.ebay.com

or get the cheaper 480w they do
 
ymustuknow

ymustuknow

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bursto said:
just think its a better spread of light in the tent and the money on some of the stuff you looking at could go to a good spiderfarmer bar sytle light


www.ebay.com

Flairform PH Test Kit | eBay

How accurate is Flairform’s pH Test Kit?.
www.ebay.com

or get the cheaper 480w they do
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Thanks for the break down expaination and links. Is this Bluelab TRUNV2 Truncheon Nutrient Meter for a soil grow like I will be doing? I was reading the product listing and am not understanding.
 
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bursto

bursto

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ymustuknow said:
Thanks for the break down expaination and links. Is this Bluelab TRUNV2 Truncheon Nutrient Meter for a soil grow like I will be doing? I was reading the product listing and am not understanding.
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so you cant just tip water on plants without testing ph and ppm first, the truncheon is for stirring your water with when you add your mega crop or whatever nutes your using, once you in desired range of ppm for the growth stage you check the waters ph range 5.5 - 6

the dye is fool proof and what i recommend you do when you start is, using the dye start with your rain or RO water and test it with nothing in it first,

hopefully your water is good and its around ph 6.0 then add the nutes stir it up good (truncheon) then check ph again and take notice how it effects ph
 
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MtRainDog

MtRainDog

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I agree to start with the necessities like a tent, lights, inline fan, circulating fan(s).

That drip irrigation system looks ok for the price. If you were to buy a quality bucket/res, pump, fittings, emitters, etc on your own you'd be pretty close in price either way. The advantage of DIY is you can buy quality individual components vs whatever MarsHydro is using. Not a knock on MarsHydro at all, it looks like a reasonable product.

One nice thing about drip emitters is they water nice and slowly, which means more evenly, avoiding dry spots/excessive run-off. And you can reach a sweet point where you're watering everyday-ish, allowing the plants to dictate their own drinking habits.
 
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