Super Simple, Or Bad Advise?

sheapdog420

Active Member
I saw this on another forum. I'm not the author, and in no way or form can I take credit for this. Was wondering what the experts here thought about this, especially for newbs. Here's the url link and first post:




KEEP IT SIMPLE STONER


For a newb, there are A LOT of distractions out there.

Somehow, an underground market has been literally 'consumed' by pointless products.

Even some of the so called 'simple' methods have users buying multiple products.

Stated herein is a method that has been handed down to me, by someone who had it handed down to them, and in no way am I taking credit for this method.

Hopefully some of the Pro's will pipe in, and we'll have a good old thread going on simplicity, and the long term benefits of such simple methods.


Lucas Formula (.com!)


If you don't know yet, Google it! Enlighten thyself to the world of simplicity! Most people know Lucas as two of the three part GH Flora Series...however, what most people don't know is that they are paying for H20! That's right, most of the liquid GH is I believe distilled water.​




The Method





MaxiBloom is a little known additive from GenHydro. However with further inspection, this 'additive' has everything the plant needs. Nothing more in your water than:​






1 TEAspoon MaxiBloom


pH Calibration***​


Per US gal. tap water​





***(This varies depending on region, test pH amounts for YOURSELF! 1/2 Tsp pH UP works for me!)​





How To Completely Dissolve



  1. Fill Mason Jar half full of hot water (Glass not plastic!)
  2. Empty measured/weighed Maxi into Mason Jar
  3. Shake for at least 5 min. (You don't have to shake it hard, it just takes time. So get comfy!)
  4. Pour solution into mixing bucket
  5. Fill to desired amount and away ya go!
BE SURE TO KEEP AN EYE ON RUNOFF pH...adjust accordingly...





That's it. Your plants will love it. Your pocketbook will love it.​





I know people that do more with this shit, than most people do with 20 products, snake oils, and potions...Hoodoo!​





 

Total Head

Well-Known Member
there are a lot of people on this site who swear by the lucas formula. there are a few variations on it from what i've seen. i've never used this method but there are a lot of threads about it. i'm sure someone will pipe up and point you toward what you are looking for.
 

sheapdog420

Active Member
I'm familiar with the Lucas Formula, haven't tried it but have studied up on it. This is different. Lucas calls for both Bloom and Micro ferts in approximately a 1-1 ratio. This is just using MaxiBloom with tap water. Now I'm sure that this will not yield the absolute biggest or best buds, but for straight newbs does anyone think this would be ok so as not to confuse/intimidate the newbies with many different bottles? And besides the benefit of only having to buy one product rather than several, or the ease in measuring 1 teaspoon to 1 gallon of tap water, the monetary savings would also be great.
 

Serapis

Well-Known Member
Assuming water is 0 ppm, what is the reading after dissolving a teaspoon of Maxibloom into a gallon? Analysis?
 

sheapdog420

Active Member
after reading some of the thread, they use tap water and it is between 200-600ppm starting out. People who have used RO water have to add some Cal Mag for deficiencies. Well water has no info as far as I've read. I'm only on page 10 or so.
 

Neumann

Active Member
I use this style. I grow fairly small, 2.5 square feet of scrog in DWC under 400W HPS. I'm averaging 35g or 1 1/4 oz per square foot of reasonably tight, extremely high quality bud. I'm on my fifth grow doing it this way. I'm not an expert, I found the Lucas information on the net and the Maxibloom seemed the simplest and most cost efficient so I decided to work with that until I learned enough about nutrients and my particular genetics requirements to tailor a more specific personal mix.
I'll be glad to answer any questions I can.
 

homebrewer

Well-Known Member
Maxibloom contains 7 of the 16 essential elements. I'm sure it'll work but that's about as incomplete as you can get, yet still grow plants.
 

sheapdog420

Active Member
I suppose the point of using nothing but maxibloom and tap water is the ease of use and the price especially for new growers. You use 1 teaspon or 7 grams per gallon and that's it. Also the price is cheap. ~$10-$15 for 2.2 lbs. So for starting out and trying to get the hang of things, this might be the easiest and cheapest way.
 

Neumann

Active Member
I suppose the point of using nothing but maxibloom and tap water is the ease of use and the price especially for new growers. You use 1 teaspon or 7 grams per gallon and that's it. Also the price is cheap. ~$10-$15 for 2.2 lbs. So for starting out and trying to get the hang of things, this might be the easiest and cheapest way.
That's exactly why I started with it. I've done a lot of research on lighting, types of systems and nutrients. I couldn't seem to get a grasp on understanding nutrient labels, so I went simple. Now I want to learn more about nutrients but I'm having a problem understanding ONE STUPID THING which is basically translating from a percentage label. If anybody can help me understand that, I'm pretty sure I'll leave straight Maxibloom behind and not look back. In case you might be able to help me with this, here's my thread about it. https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/409552-nutrient-math-question.html
 

kepitgrn

Active Member
Don't be fooled by all the hype ..good soil,alot of light ,decent water,good nutes ..is all u need..also buy seeds from a good seedbank,when vegging they need alot of nitrogen..when flower/budding..phosphate...don't over water or over nute ..keep them in a 5gal pail or larger so they don't root-lock...and u will have some proud girls.....
 

Gastanker

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Nothing wrong with using a 1 part flower fert. I'de personally throw in some molasses at the end but to each his own.
 

homebrewer

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I suppose the point of using nothing but maxibloom and tap water is the ease of use and the price especially for new growers. You use 1 teaspon or 7 grams per gallon and that's it. Also the price is cheap. ~$10-$15 for 2.2 lbs. So for starting out and trying to get the hang of things, this might be the easiest and cheapest way.
I was just commenting on this:

MaxiBloom is a little known additive from GenHydro. However with further inspection, this 'additive' has everything the plant needs.
It's also not an 'additive', its a 2 part growing system with grow and bloom. It looks like the same comments were being made at the other website too. It'll work just fine.
 
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